Gulf Oil Slick

[Glenn]

Not to mention the fires everywhere...Oh but then again BP is taking care of it so we should be safe.

[AtLast]

At this point, I am not confident with much from anyone about the ramifications of this spill. Not BP, not the government, not even scientists. We put so little into scientific investigation in the US, I don't believe that have even had a chance to do sound research in the techniques available to deal with this. Also, science is bought and paid for in this country every single day and politically impure.

[Kast]

Here's one thing that's needed - skimmers, except the U.S. has an environmental ban on them, the Dutch have been on standby since early May.

Ask your Congressman to get the environmental ban lifted on the Dutch skimmers

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/du...s-oil-disaster

[Toughy]

http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global...y-oil-skimmers

headline:

U.S. reconsiders Dutch offer to supply oil skimmers

please note: I do not believe ANY oil should be drilled for in the ocean at any depth.

[Kast]

http://medicalmuckraker.wordpress.co...gain/#more-368

"Said one EPA employee: “Anything that could look bad to the press isn’t being done. We’re completely ignoring the biggest environmental disaster ever in the U.S.”"

Did they really say this, why would they say this?

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Kam

http://medicalmuckraker.wordpress.co...gain/#more-368

"Said one EPA employee: “Anything that could look bad to the press isn’t being done. We’re completely ignoring the biggest environmental disaster ever in the U.S.”"

Did they really say this, why would they say this?

The problem I have with this article is that it isn't attributed. I could *say* that I know a biologist who says that they have vat-grown a bacteria that could dumped into the Gulf right now and would eat all the oil within a matter of days and then die off. That doesn't mean I have spoken to that scientist but I could say that I have. If I said, "<Insert Name Here> has written this paper which you can read here..." then that would have some veracity to it but, unfortunately, the article you linked to doesn't give us anything to go on. At a time like this, I am reminded of the old saw "a lie can be halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on". I'm not saying that the blogger in question is lying, but I'm rather suspect because there's absolutely no attribution, not even a hint of one.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Toughy

http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global...y-oil-skimmers

headline:

U.S. reconsiders Dutch offer to supply oil skimmers

please note: I do not believe ANY oil should be drilled for in the ocean at any depth.

I don't either. No matter what depth, I just believe that the resources will ever be in place to do this safely. And we can try to regulate til the cows come home and it won't matter.

What I am just going nuts over is that our priorities are so ass backwards!

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

I don't either. No matter what depth, I just believe that the resources will ever be in place to do this safely. And we can try to regulate til the cows come home and it won't matter.

What I am just going nuts over is that our priorities are so ass backwards!

We absolutely should stop all off-shore drilling at this point although, to be perfectly honest, I think it's *possible* to do it safely but corporations in America--for reasons that are pretty self-evident now--don't have to do common sensical things like drilling emergency relief wells.

Our priorities ARE out-of-whack. We *could* be phasing out private petroleum-powered vehicles for electric vehicles if we had started working on it, say, 20 years ago but we didn't. We could be largely off of fossil fuels for electricity generation had we poured research funds into solar, wind and fast-breeder nuclear reactors (which are far more stable AND feed off their own waste products) but we didn't. The oil situation isn't a surprise, it's been a known approaching issue for at least three decades now.

Cheers
Aj

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

Not to mention the fires everywhere...Oh but then again BP is taking care of it so we should be safe.

Are you talking about the fire from the lightning strike or the fires lit to burn off some of the surface oil? I wasn't aware of widespread fires from this.

[Glenn]

Yes lightning strikes. If a freak storm sets all that oil off it could be a nightmare of horror. Oil can also form a vapor cloud of it's own if it sits long enough due to all the vapors/gasses built into the storm itself. A storm cloud that is so heavy it could self ignite and pour down acid rain. Also if a hurricane is a giant blender than lightning can ignite a oil ball that spews out anywhere.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

Yes lightning strikes. If a freak storm sets all that oil off it could be a nightmare of horror. Oil can also form a vapor cloud of it's own if it sits long enough due to all the vapors/gasses built into the storm itself. A storm cloud that is so heavy it could self ignite and pour down acid rain. Also if a hurricane is a giant blender than lightning can ignite a oil ball that spews out anywhere.

Well I know there was one lightning strike on a ship and that a fire broke out because of it. I wasn't aware that this had happened multiple times during this incident. (I took your fires everywhere comment literally to mean that *currently* there were fires, well, everywhere directly related to this oil spill. I presume, now, that's not what you meant?)

[Glenn]

As we speak, Fema is holding meetings in Florida and elsewhere discussing this possibility and solutions. I just read about it today in the Tampa Bay Tribune, and at Allspark.com. Lightning has set many fires off oil. Also these experts warn that the oil can act like a thermal blanket raising water temperature giving these storms more energy

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

As we speak, Fema is holding meetings in Florida and elsewhere discussing this possibility and solutions. I just read about it today in the Tampa Bay Tribune, and at Allspark.com. Lightning has set many fires off oil. Also these experts warn that the oil can act like a thermal blanket raising water temperature giving these storms more energy

Could I trouble you to post a link to the Allspark.com you are talking about? The url http://www.allspark.com takes me to a Transformers site and I'm reasonably certain that's not what you're talking about. I'd be interested in reading more about what these experts are saying.

Cheers
Aj

[Sabine Gallais]

Drilling a second or third relief well only exacerbates the situation... Chances are, the entire seabed is about to erupt creating a “super tsunami” @ 400 – 600 mph …


http://www.helium.com/items/1864136-...-kill-millions