It's Time to Boycott Arizona

[Corkey]

You know Kobi, people have been trying to help you, but you just are too defensive to listen. Let me try this again, you as a white person, used a black mans words to make your white point of view valid. That is offensive, that is racist. You are too hung up on what you feel to even consider what others of color are saying to you, that is privileged. Maybe you should consider taking a course or two on race relations at one of the many Mass higher learning centers. You may be surprised if one of the white professors calls you out, it would be my hope that you'd listen.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Please contact the racist, successor Arizona governor and demand that she provide the data to substantiate her ignorant rhetoric in reference to her recent claim that all "illegal aliens" that come here are connected to criminal and drug activity, even calling them drug mules!! Stand up or shut up!!! Contact her at http://azgovernor.gov/contact.asp - it only takes a few seconds to add your grain of salt to this fight against ignorance and division!!!!

http://azgovernor.gov/contact.asp

[Corkey]

I would very much appreciate proof of your recent announcement that all undocumented immigrants are mules for the drug cartels. I would also like to understand why you are targeting a portion of US citizens in your attempt at immigration reform, which as I read the Constitution correctly, and I do is the purview of the United States Congress and not a States right.
Thank you for your time.
A Citizen of the United States of America

My letter to the Governor of AZ

[Kobi]

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

Originally Posted by Corkey

You know Kobi, people have been trying to help you, but you just are too defensive to listen. Let me try this again, you as a white person, used a black mans words to make your white point of view valid. That is offensive, that is racist. You are too hung up on what you feel to even consider what others of color are saying to you, that is privileged. Maybe you should consider taking a course or two on race relations at one of the many Mass higher learning centers. You may be surprised if one of the white professors calls you out, it would be my hope that you'd listen.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

I, for one, would be fascinated to see this paper because I'm curious what you have to say about racism. Some of us have bent over *backward* in this conversation, Kobi, you just don't see it.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

Is it bizarre because someone is not agreeing with your positions, or bizarre because you think it's ok to use a different cultures history to your advantage? If you used some critical thinking to your own view point and not use say Malcolm's words to your advantage I might have agreed with your view point, I however can't because that is not what you said.

I would hope that using your own words to state your opinion would be sufficient. Now as far as what you as a white person can say, almost anything, the almost part is the racist stuff you have currently used.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

I find it bizarre that you wrote a paper on racism and managed to completely overlook how white privilege contributes to racism...especially in dialogues.


But Then, I'm Assuming You Have A Lot Of POC Friends Too,
Dylan

You might want to check out the Racism thread

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

This is one of the best examples of unexamined white privilege and racism I have read on b/f websites.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Sorry Corkey, I just dont buy into this because it is bizarre.

I could send you copies of papers I did in grad school on racism but I quote a lot of people of color so I know it would offend you for me to do so.

Personally, I think ya'll just want to shut the white person up by adding more and more absolutely outrageous demands on what is appropriate and inappropriate for me as a white person to say and do.

It's not bizarre, it's just you. I didn't do papers on racism in grad school or any other school, and I don't have a sufficient background or education in race history in this country, and I haven't done a whole lot of self-examination and bag unpacking on issues of race, and I have lived and continue to live my life of white privilege. Yet, even I'm able to read and listen to what folks here and elsewhere are saying, and pay attention, and learn, and understand a little bit better, and respect the viewpoints of people who have lived what you and I can only read about. Nothing here is about shutting up the white person, it's about one white person who's too stubborn to listen.

As for what's appropriate and not appropriate - listening and trying to learn something is appropriate. Educating POC about their lives is not.