Differently Abled (fly your freak flag high)

Corkey · 07-19-2010, 04:16 PM

I'm having some issues these last few days, took some meds to try to sleep and now my mind is giving me fits. I can't sleep, but when I do I can't wake up...fibro fog for sure, but damnitalltohell it's 6PM and I want to be awake. Ugh

SuperFemme · 07-19-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

I'm having some issues these last few days, took some meds to try to sleep and now my mind is giving me fits. I can't sleep, but when I do I can't wake up...fibro fog for sure, but damnitalltohell it's 6PM and I want to be awake. Ugh

sleeping has been an issue for me since my accident. i can usually get in a few hours at a time...

so my doctor gave me some sleeping aids. the first one? ambien? i totally freaked out, and my kids had to call cal over for help. i was apparently being ridiculous. know what? i do not remember a thing. needless to say, those meds went in the trash. next it was lunesta. same thing. trash.

i gave up on meds for a while, scared of having these "fugue" states where i act like a nut and everyone remembers it but me.

recently, in the hospital they gave me trazedone. which basically equates to a large dose of benadryl. it works, but i find it so hard to wake up...and my head is super foggy. so i only use when i am breaking down due to exhaustion. the rest of the time i take herbal sleep aids.

so yes. i feel for you corkey and can so relate.

here is some info on herbal/natural sleep remedies.

Nutritional supplements: 5-HTP, Melatonin
Best herbal remedies: Valerian, Corydalis, Lavender
Other remedies: Chamomile, Passion Flower and hops
Also look at: homeopathic remedies, they are safe also for children
Dr Deepak Choprasuggests the following Ayurvedic remedies:
a cup of warm milk with two strands of saffron or some grated nutmeg

dixie · 07-20-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

sleeping has been an issue for me since my accident. i can usually get in a few hours at a time...

so my doctor gave me some sleeping aids. the first one? ambien? i totally freaked out, and my kids had to call cal over for help. i was apparently being ridiculous. know what? i do not remember a thing. needless to say, those meds went in the trash. next it was lunesta. same thing. trash.

i gave up on meds for a while, scared of having these "fugue" states where i act like a nut and everyone remembers it but me.

recently, in the hospital they gave me trazedone. which basically equates to a large dose of benadryl. it works, but i find it so hard to wake up...and my head is super foggy. so i only use when i am breaking down due to exhaustion. the rest of the time i take herbal sleep aids.

so yes. i feel for you corkey and can so relate.

here is some info on herbal/natural sleep remedies.

Nutritional supplements: 5-HTP, Melatonin
Best herbal remedies: Valerian, Corydalis, Lavender
Other remedies: Chamomile, Passion Flower and hops
Also look at: homeopathic remedies, they are safe also for children
Dr Deepak Choprasuggests the following Ayurvedic remedies:
a cup of warm milk with two strands of saffron or some grated nutmeg

I so couldn't pass up the Ambien thing. My docs tried that out on me also. After 3 seperate incidents including: (1)waking up nekkid in the front lawn at 3am, (2)waking up nekkid behind the wheel of my car (luckily still in my driveway), and (3)waking up screaming from nightterrors and attacking the person trying to wake me...I have vowed to never touch that stuff again...ugh...

SuperFemme · 07-20-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dixielady

I so couldn't pass up the Ambien thing. My docs tried that out on me also. After 3 seperate incidents including: (1)waking up nekkid in the front lawn at 3am, (2)waking up nekkid behind the wheel of my car (luckily still in my driveway), and (3)waking up screaming from nightterrors and attacking the person trying to wake me...I have vowed to never touch that stuff again...ugh...

yikes. what is amazing to me? is that it is still being prescribed. at all. with sleep eating/sleep driving alone? it is clearly too risky and dangerous to the point that the consequence could be very severe.

thank GOD you were safe after your naked adventures. seriously, you just made me get all mother hen protective about you. i would have to gather a differently abled posse and take out anyone that harmed you in that state of mind.

dixie · 07-20-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

yikes. what is amazing to me? is that it is still being prescribed. at all. with sleep eating/sleep driving alone? it is clearly too risky and dangerous to the point that the consequence could be very severe.

thank GOD you were safe after your naked adventures. seriously, you just made me get all mother hen protective about you. i would have to gather a differently abled posse and take out anyone that harmed you in that state of mind.

Aww...thank you Mother Hen...

I could just imagine the posse you would put together. I can also imagine my utter mortification at being SEEN in such a state...gah!

I'm glad I don't have neighbors. They would have been horrified by the sight of this nekkid girl running amok in the yard...or hopefully they would have just thought I was a very spiritual individual dancing to the Moon Goddess...

Seriously though... It's strange, because it affects my grandmother in similar ways, but my dad takes it with no problems at all. Personally I do think it is way too dangerous. I'm really glad that when I woke up in the car, at least I didn't have my keys in the ignition.

SuperFemme · 08-21-2010, 11:25 AM

Thought for the day: May we all find a little bit of what make Faith the Dog tick within ourselves today, and every day.

FeminineAllure · 08-21-2010, 03:34 PM

It takes me 400 mg tegretol, 1mg benztropin, 1mg fluphenazine, 300 mg seroquel, 1mg klonopin, 1 to 2 benadryl, 1 singulair and 40mg of cymbalta to get to sleep for a few hours. If my pain from fibromyalgia is bad then I also take 1 30 mg oxycodone.
I have been on every sleeping pill made. They do not work for me. Trazodone makes me do really strange things as well. never again.

Gayla · 07-19-2010, 04:31 PM

I've been like that all day. I just can't seem to process what anyone is saying unless it's very clear and straight forward. I'm not in full blown fog yet, just that little haze that floats along the ground and makes it hard to think.

I blame summer. I've heard from a lot of people today that are foggy and flaring.

Corkey · 07-19-2010, 04:38 PM

Thanks SF and gayla, I know I'm not alone in this. The valerian I have, but because the issue I'm having is my gut, it's best not to take that till my gut clears up. When ever that happens I won't have to take the meds. Then I'll be back to my jovial self. Til then I'm in a bit of a funk. I need to get on the tread mill and move, I just have no energy. Me venting...not much I can do about it, just wait it out.

SimpleAlaskanBoy · 07-19-2010, 04:39 PM

I'm SAB, 31...I was born with hydrocephalus (water on the brain), a preemie two months early (and two pounds 12 oz) and was first shunted at two months old. I've had 20+ shunt revisions, and am currently going through what I believe to be a malfunction (a major reason to have the revision)
I also have major depressive disorder, and anxiety issues although the anxiety has lessened over the years. I'm on disability.
Just wanted to introduce myself.

~SAB

SuperFemme · 07-19-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleAlaskanBoy

I'm SAB, 31...I was born with hydrocephalus (water on the brain), a preemie two months early (and two pounds 12 oz) and was first shunted at two months old. I've had 20+ shunt revisions, and am currently going through what I believe to be a malfunction (a major reason to have the revision)
I also have major depressive disorder, and anxiety issues although the anxiety has lessened over the years. I'm on disability.
Just wanted to introduce myself.

~SAB

Welcome SAB. You ARE a miracle aren't you? So glad you're still here with us after such a rough start.

I had a shunt for around 1 1/2 years after a brain injury. I had a lot of stomach problems during that time.

What is the malfunction you have with yours? Is a revision a rough thing? I am super curious...

Gayla · 07-19-2010, 05:33 PM

Did I ever do the intro thing?

OMG Ambien. It was the first thing my doc gave me for sleep and it's the freakiest stuff. The first few nights I took it as I was laying down but then it took about 20 minutes to kick in so I started taking it about 20 minutes before I actually went to bed. I didn't do weird stuff, but all of the inanimate objects in my house did! I have a shelf of elephants (that I've been collecting all my life) they started dancing in unison. My shoes were moving around. At one point my desk stopped being solid and I could put my hand through it. I was kinda cool but then one night the walls started closing in on me, literally the ceiling was about a foot above my face when I layed down, I haven't taken any sense.

I tried Trazadone and it seemed to work well but the light sensitivity the next day made it really hard.

Now that I don't have to do the 9-5 thing, I've switched back around to what feels more normal to me and I think I sleep better. Usually that means I fall asleep between 2 and 3 a.m. and get up between 10 and 11 a.m. Out of that I think I get a good 5-6 hours of deep sleep.

We dug out the treadmill a few weeks ago and I notice I do sleep better on the days I actually use it. I find 10-15 minutes reduces the flare risk and helps me sleep ok but I have to do it earlier in the day, not in the evenings.

SuperFemme · 07-19-2010, 05:47 PM

oh my gay.
thank you for sharing your ambien dancing elephants here.

i was truly wondering if i was the only one who went batshit on the stuff.

SimpleAlaskanBoy · 07-19-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Welcome SAB. You ARE a miracle aren't you? So glad you're still here with us after such a rough start.

I had a shunt for around 1 1/2 years after a brain injury. I had a lot of stomach problems during that time.

What is the malfunction you have with yours? Is a revision a rough thing? I am super curious...

Thanks for your questions, Super...
A neurosurgeon I had in Alaska put the cause of a malfunction this way: The top layer of your brain flakes off like skin. Often, it is this material that clogs the shunt tubing leaving it unable to drain the CSF (brain fluid) it is supposed to. When I was growing up, it was either this reason or that I needed more tubing due to growing. Of course that stopped a long time ago.

He also told me that some patients have more malfunctions than others. I think I fall into that category.
Anyway. A revision is pretty much brain surgery and I *do* have a lot of scar tissue around my head and stomach but it is a relatively easy surgery, they just knock me out and after unclogging it put new tubing in. As I've gotten older it takes more out of me, but I am used to it.
I have to reschedule a CT scan that I am supposed to be having this week of my stomach end of the shunt, after that I will make another appointment with my current neuro. He told daisy and I that he doesn't want to do a revision every time he has a patient with a shunt complain of the symptoms (headache, mood changes, either sleeping too much or too little, vomiting, nausea, loss of appetite..) but that he knows that often CT scans don't show anything wrong (which is every single time, with me)
Until then I take Vicodin to dull the pain. I've had the symptoms since late May early June, so I hope something happens soon. I know my mom back in Alaska is worried, along with daisy and daisy's mom.
Well enough about me. I just wanna say that I am loving reading everyone's stories...sometimes it helps to know that you are not alone.
~SAB

ravfem · 07-20-2010, 10:22 AM

ok i have an ambien story too....

Like someone else said, i started taking it about 1/2 hour before i was ready for bed to give it time to kick in.

Well, one morning my house mate asked if i had heard the smoke alarm go off during the night. Nope, i said, and didn't think anything more about it.

Later as i was sitting at the computer, i noticed a big jar candle sitting on the floor in the corner of the room. i wondered why it was there and went over to get it. It was covered with black soot and had water in it, as well as bits of burnt paper. i sat there trying to figure out what was going on, and slowly memories started coming back....i remembered sitting at my desk, lighting the candle and holding paper over it. That's all i remembered.

i almost set the house on fire on ambien! Yeah, it got trashed quickly. A friend eats in his sleep when he takes it....wakes up with food wrappers and crumbs all over the bed but with no memory of doing it.

my doc switched me to amitriptyline (elavil) for insomnia, which works ok usually with no hangover effect. It's old as dirt and very cheap.

Gayla · 07-20-2010, 05:10 PM

So apparently my two day low hanging fog is mostly just due to allergies. :/

Had a post-surgical follow up with my ENT today and he walked in the door, took one look at me and said, "Happy Allergy Week!" When I told him I'd been foggy for a couple of day, in addition to the razor blades in my eyes and the runny nose, he told me grass pollen is really high and if my allergy is severe enough it can affect everything from concentration to cognitive kind of stuff.

Yay. He did call in scripts though and said I should be thinking more clearly in a day or two. (clearly? clearer? sigh)

I rarely like my docs much less love them as much as I love this guy. He just takes care of stuff without me having to beg and explain over and over again. Then again, he is the one who saved my butt when surgery went all wrong so I guess it's not all that weird to be madly in love with a doc who's probably the sole reason I'm still upright.

So, for all the foggy folks, check your pollen levels!

07-19-2010, 04:16 PM	#1
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ravfem Senior Member How Do You Identify?: i'm a girl Relationship Status: negative Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,811 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,239 Thanked 3,125 Times in 1,270 Posts Rep Power: 1969287	ok i have an ambien story too.... Like someone else said, i started taking it about 1/2 hour before i was ready for bed to give it time to kick in. Well, one morning my house mate asked if i had heard the smoke alarm go off during the night. Nope, i said, and didn't think anything more about it. Later as i was sitting at the computer, i noticed a big jar candle sitting on the floor in the corner of the room. i wondered why it was there and went over to get it. It was covered with black soot and had water in it, as well as bits of burnt paper. i sat there trying to figure out what was going on, and slowly memories started coming back....i remembered sitting at my desk, lighting the candle and holding paper over it. That's all i remembered. i almost set the house on fire on ambien! Yeah, it got trashed quickly. A friend eats in his sleep when he takes it....wakes up with food wrappers and crumbs all over the bed but with no memory of doing it. my doc switched me to amitriptyline (elavil) for insomnia, which works ok usually with no hangover effect. It's old as dirt and very cheap. __________________

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SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,108 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	Thought for the day: May we all find a little bit of what make Faith the Dog tick within ourselves today, and every day.

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SimpleAlaskanBoy Member How Do You Identify?: Bisexual trans guy Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Daddy to a sweet daisy. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 410 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,426 Thanked 1,010 Times in 295 Posts Rep Power: 5996529	I'm SAB, 31...I was born with hydrocephalus (water on the brain), a preemie two months early (and two pounds 12 oz) and was first shunted at two months old. I've had 20+ shunt revisions, and am currently going through what I believe to be a malfunction (a major reason to have the revision) I also have major depressive disorder, and anxiety issues although the anxiety has lessened over the years. I'm on disability. Just wanted to introduce myself. ~SAB

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Gayla Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Kinky Butch Top Preferred Pronoun?: I'm not picky Relationship Status: She makes me dance like a fool and forget how to breathe. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF CA Posts: 3,229 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 877 Thanked 7,077 Times in 1,966 Posts Rep Power: 0	Did I ever do the intro thing? OMG Ambien. It was the first thing my doc gave me for sleep and it's the freakiest stuff. The first few nights I took it as I was laying down but then it took about 20 minutes to kick in so I started taking it about 20 minutes before I actually went to bed. I didn't do weird stuff, but all of the inanimate objects in my house did! I have a shelf of elephants (that I've been collecting all my life) they started dancing in unison. My shoes were moving around. At one point my desk stopped being solid and I could put my hand through it. I was kinda cool but then one night the walls started closing in on me, literally the ceiling was about a foot above my face when I layed down, I haven't taken any sense. I tried Trazadone and it seemed to work well but the light sensitivity the next day made it really hard. Now that I don't have to do the 9-5 thing, I've switched back around to what feels more normal to me and I think I sleep better. Usually that means I fall asleep between 2 and 3 a.m. and get up between 10 and 11 a.m. Out of that I think I get a good 5-6 hours of deep sleep. We dug out the treadmill a few weeks ago and I notice I do sleep better on the days I actually use it. I find 10-15 minutes reduces the flare risk and helps me sleep ok but I have to do it earlier in the day, not in the evenings.

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SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,108 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	oh my gay. thank you for sharing your ambien dancing elephants here. i was truly wondering if i was the only one who went batshit on the stuff.

07-20-2010, 05:10 PM	#16
Gayla Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Kinky Butch Top Preferred Pronoun?: I'm not picky Relationship Status: She makes me dance like a fool and forget how to breathe. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF CA Posts: 3,229 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 877 Thanked 7,077 Times in 1,966 Posts Rep Power: 0	So apparently my two day low hanging fog is mostly just due to allergies. :/ Had a post-surgical follow up with my ENT today and he walked in the door, took one look at me and said, "Happy Allergy Week!" When I told him I'd been foggy for a couple of day, in addition to the razor blades in my eyes and the runny nose, he told me grass pollen is really high and if my allergy is severe enough it can affect everything from concentration to cognitive kind of stuff. Yay. He did call in scripts though and said I should be thinking more clearly in a day or two. (clearly? clearer? sigh) I rarely like my docs much less love them as much as I love this guy. He just takes care of stuff without me having to beg and explain over and over again. Then again, he is the one who saved my butt when surgery went all wrong so I guess it's not all that weird to be madly in love with a doc who's probably the sole reason I'm still upright. So, for all the foggy folks, check your pollen levels!