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Old 09-03-2010, 12:39 PM   #1
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I dang sure don't want a big fat hypocrite like Ken Mehlman supporting any LGBTQI cause. He is a traitor. I don't welcome anything from him. I know I am not the only one in this community who feels this way.

I could care less about manic depression and marriage licenses. I do care that folks who are not gay are applying for marriage licenses. It just provides fodder for the right wing nuts. It sends a message that this is not about equal rights. In my mind it borders on mockery of equal rights.
Ditto on Ken DOMA Mehlman.

Your last paragraph is exactly why I chose to post the article. It makes a mockery out of the thousands of us in honest, real long term relationships/marriages that want only one thing: equal rights under the law.

In this crazy mad world, my mind goes places it normally wouldn't. Like two straight men filing this case in hopes of taking it to court and perhaps settling it in a way that is disparaging to same sex couples? Which puts precedent on the law books.

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mmmmmmmmmm was that ad a production of Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorny (spelling) vs their respective opponents in the last closed primary of either party in CA?

Just wait..........2 years from now we will see two Republicans against each other for the same seat in general elections in CA. No Democrats allowed because 2 Republicans had the two top votes in the primary elections........

I say CA should ban Constitutional Amendment votes by the people until it passes both the State House and Senate and the current Governor signs it. Then it can go to the people for a vote. It works well in MA and many other states.
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mmmmmmmmmm was that ad a production of Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorny (spelling) vs their respective opponents in the last closed primary of either party in CA?

Just wait..........2 years from now we will see two Republicans against each other for the same seat in general elections in CA. No Democrats allowed because 2 Republicans had the two top votes in the primary elections........

I say CA should ban Constitutional Amendment votes by the people until it passes both the State House and Senate and the current Governor signs it. Then it can go to the people for a vote. It works well in MA and many other states.
Yes brought to you by the "lovely" Ms Fiorina- good catch!

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mmmmmmmmmm was that ad a production of Meg Whitman or Carly Fiorny (spelling) vs their respective opponents in the last closed primary of either party in CA?

Just wait..........2 years from now we will see two Republicans against each other for the same seat in general elections in CA. No Democrats allowed because 2 Republicans had the two top votes in the primary elections........

I say CA should ban Constitutional Amendment votes by the people until it passes both the State House and Senate and the current Governor signs it. Then it can go to the people for a vote. It works well in MA and many other states.
Right on T. I wonder how many ill-informed voters said yes to the CA open primary initiative passed that REALLY understood what it is!!! As in just plain stupid!
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Engle Rallies Against Gay Marriage in Calif.

Pastor Lou Engle's controversial ministry drew thousands of attendees on Saturday to protest gay marriage, abortion, and pornography on the steps of the California state capitol in Sacramento.

Engle's "TheCall to Conscience" included a 12-hour fast, the Associated Press reports. The rally was in part a protest of the recent court ruling striking down Proposition 8 as unconstitutional (the case is currently on appeal).

"If marriage is going to be upheld between a man and a woman, which we believe is the best for families and children and society, then right now, it seems we need divine intervention," Engle said in an interview with the AP. "That's part of the reason we're coming here, to pray, but also to take a stand and be a prophetic voice to stand for truth."

A recent Uganda rally starring Engle was featured in the September cover story for The Advocate.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_N...lity_in_Calif/
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An interesting time line of the evolution of same-sex rights in Canada.
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CA Supreme Court Asks Schwarzenegger & Brown About Prop 8 Defense Refusal

Karen Ocamb reports that the California Supreme Court has ordered Gov. Schwarzenegger and AG Jerry Brown to explain why they have refused to defend Proposition 8. The pair had until 9am today to respond. The Pacific Justice Institute was expected to rebut their response by noon today. Ocamb notes that "theoretically" the Court could order Schwarzenegger and Brown to defend Prop 8. More on this as it develops...

Me: Does anyone know if their response has been published?
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