A question about passing...

EnderD_503 · 10-12-2010, 07:07 AM

I mostly agree with Greyson. Also, I think being able to pass in heterosexual society is sometimes something that is easier to do than when one is dealing with other butches. Mainstream heterosexual society today is still fairly unaware of b/f culture, whereas there are certain characteristics or details that another butch would likely notice fairly quickly that might go unnoticed elsewhere.

It really depends on what these two individuals look like, I suppose. Greyson brought up height, though there are still plenty of butches who fall into the male height range. If they've heard each other speak, voice would be another indicator. Even if many butches have lower voices and would be able to pass for male/younger male, that's something else another butch would likely pick up on in combination with other characteristics. The lack of facial hair for those who aren't on T, no adam's apple (though that one can be a little iffy). With binding as well, unless a butch has a smaller than average (sometimes even average) chest or a more well-made binder, depending on the shirt they're wearing it can be fairly easy to tell if someone's binding without paying close attention. While they often come extremely close to looking natural and while they wouldn't turn heads in mainstream society, there's often a certain "look" to a bound chest, imo. Some shirts hide that better than others.

To me it doesn't matter how a butch acts/moves etc., but a combination of physical characteristics that would give them away fairly quickly to other butches.

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10-12-2010, 07:07 AM	#3
EnderD_503 Member How Do You Identify?: Queer, trans guy, butch Preferred Pronoun?: Male pronouns Relationship Status: Relationship Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,329 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,090 Thanked 3,878 Times in 1,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I mostly agree with Greyson. Also, I think being able to pass in heterosexual society is sometimes something that is easier to do than when one is dealing with other butches. Mainstream heterosexual society today is still fairly unaware of b/f culture, whereas there are certain characteristics or details that another butch would likely notice fairly quickly that might go unnoticed elsewhere. It really depends on what these two individuals look like, I suppose. Greyson brought up height, though there are still plenty of butches who fall into the male height range. If they've heard each other speak, voice would be another indicator. Even if many butches have lower voices and would be able to pass for male/younger male, that's something else another butch would likely pick up on in combination with other characteristics. The lack of facial hair for those who aren't on T, no adam's apple (though that one can be a little iffy). With binding as well, unless a butch has a smaller than average (sometimes even average) chest or a more well-made binder, depending on the shirt they're wearing it can be fairly easy to tell if someone's binding without paying close attention. While they often come extremely close to looking natural and while they wouldn't turn heads in mainstream society, there's often a certain "look" to a bound chest, imo. Some shirts hide that better than others. To me it doesn't matter how a butch acts/moves etc., but a combination of physical characteristics that would give them away fairly quickly to other butches.