BLOGS: A Place for FREEDOM of Speech ..OR...

Strappie · 04-24-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daywalker

I researched an employer once and found Blog info on him and his Father.

He was impressed with it, but surprised I researched...LOL

I did get the GM position at Two Star Dog in Berkeley.

Humz Ringo's 'All those years ago'...

Ahhh and yes Blogs can also be informational and not just bad Karma!!

Smart move Daywalker!!

Venus007 · 04-24-2011, 08:43 PM

I work in education and health care and I find that blogging is a great tool for networking. I use my professional blog on health care to promote my services and knowledge as well as to chime in on current events. I cannot blog about education as my employer would fire me. Part of my employment agreement was that I would not provide or keep or what have you an education related blog, it is grounds for termination.

All that being said in general people are foolish, and people under the somewhat thin veil of anonymity are super foolish. They forget that their words do not go away, they forget what they wrote a looonnngg time ago, they forget so many things.

Every employer I have had in the last 10 years has done an internet search on me (I am pretty lucky in that I have an amazingly common name and so I am a bit of a needle in a hay stack). My employers have checked my facebook page, myspace, linkedin, etc. I am very aware of my public image online as it effects my professional life. I think more and more everyone has to be.

AtLast · 04-24-2011, 09:14 PM

There are many useful and smart ways to utilize blogs. I think the type of blogs that Strappie is talking about are not bona fide, professional blogs in which the author has professional "scrupples." Sounded to me like the blogs in question are really personal attacks on people.

Strappie · 04-25-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Venus007

I work in education and health care and I find that blogging is a great tool for networking. I use my professional blog on health care to promote my services and knowledge as well as to chime in on current events. I cannot blog about education as my employer would fire me. Part of my employment agreement was that I would not provide or keep or what have you an education related blog, it is grounds for termination.

All that being said in general people are foolish, and people under the somewhat thin veil of anonymity are super foolish. They forget that their words do not go away, they forget what they wrote a looonnngg time ago, they forget so many things.

Every employer I have had in the last 10 years has done an internet search on me (I am pretty lucky in that I have an amazingly common name and so I am a bit of a needle in a hay stack). My employers have checked my facebook page, myspace, linkedin, etc. I am very aware of my public image online as it effects my professional life. I think more and more everyone has to be.

I think Blogs can be an amazing tool for people if done correctly. But in so many cases it's just a forum for Trash talking and Bashing in heads.

I agree with you 100% that people need to put themselves in check. I don't really think the majority of people would speak exactly like they do on line. We do hide behind a screen so it's easier to speak more openly, but not at the cost of others. Hell I am one that sometimes gets ahead of myself.

Good post!!

Linus · 04-25-2011, 05:35 PM

As someone who has a personal blog, a "hobbyist" blog and is working (eventually) towards a professional blog (that's 3 separate blogs) I do believe in freedom of speech. But it's freedom of speech with responsibility. I generally view online communication no different than in person communication (the exceptions are that written is definitely different since tone is lost and people can choose to be there or not).

Blogs in forums like this wouldn't be a bad thing since they can allow individuals to talk to a specific community without creating a thread about it (although a thread could be used like a blog). Regardless, however, as with anything: when you post on someone's else's "lawn" you are subject to their rules (TOS). So I would expect that to be true.

My own blogs are in my own space but I still have to adhere to the web server provider's rules. I think too many people assume the "Net" belongs to the US and thus, the freedom of speech right applies. It does not. The "Net" is a global semi-private network (that is, various companies own the networks and disk space that is used on the internet and thus, we are subject to what they believe is acceptable).

Spork · 04-25-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus

My own blogs are in my own space but I still have to adhere to the web server provider's rules. I think too many people assume the "Net" belongs to the US and thus, the freedom of speech right applies. It does not. The "Net" is a global semi-private network (that is, various companies own the networks and disk space that is used on the internet and thus, we are subject to what they believe is acceptable).

Thanks for clarifying that. I was reading the first few responses and thought "NO! That's not the point!" But you explained it way better than what I had planned to say.

Blogs are really useful. I've had my share of tech blogs and personal blogs.

dixie · 04-25-2011, 09:56 PM

I blog to get out all the bullshit feelings no matter what they are, who they involve or how they sound. Sometimes they can be all sweet and mushy or sometimes they can be hateful and downright bitchy. The same with my journaling. Both of which remain for my eyes only. Although in the past I did have public blogs but I got tired of asshats just being downright mean even about the nice things I posted or the poetry I wrote. (The mean shit stayed hidden for just me.) I'm not a fan of asshat people, and unfortunately a few follow me just to demean anything I say. So now I don't blog and usually don't even post anything that is "real" to me (aspects of personal life, certain things that are important to me, etc).

Sometimes it's not only the blogger who can create dark, vile things but also the readers. It really does depend on the person. I enjoy reading blogs from certain folks. The drama filled shit-stirring ones though, not so much.

DomnNC · 04-25-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by June

I think blogs are fine, but you if you are going to talk smack about people, don't hide under the cloak of anonymity. It's cowardly and lacks credibility. I have seen a lot of those over the years where people get a bee up their ass about someone or some thing and they're too ashamed (cowardly) to use their name.

A few years ago, I responded to a particularly ugly one about someone I knew (And didn't like) and they (the blog owner) actually deleted my comments. Probably because I wasn't going with the flow and didn't say what they wanted to hear.

Which was basically, if you have something to say, put your name on it or shut the fuck up.

Exactly, I've seen a lot of those cowardly blogs.

Galahad · 08-06-2011, 04:04 PM

Today I removed my blog from public. I was searching for a castle and found my blog name, clicked on it since I couldn't remember anything about it, and it was some porn pages, not anything of mine. Since I work with kids, I didn't want to take chances.
I wonder if that will protect my old posts now or if I should delete the whole thing. There really is no such thing as private on the internet.

04-24-2011, 08:43 PM	#2
Venus007 Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Serene Highness ;} Relationship Status: Dreamily contemplating some outrage against conventional morality Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,362 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,417 Thanked 4,749 Times in 1,139 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I work in education and health care and I find that blogging is a great tool for networking. I use my professional blog on health care to promote my services and knowledge as well as to chime in on current events. I cannot blog about education as my employer would fire me. Part of my employment agreement was that I would not provide or keep or what have you an education related blog, it is grounds for termination. All that being said in general people are foolish, and people under the somewhat thin veil of anonymity are super foolish. They forget that their words do not go away, they forget what they wrote a looonnngg time ago, they forget so many things. Every employer I have had in the last 10 years has done an internet search on me (I am pretty lucky in that I have an amazingly common name and so I am a bit of a needle in a hay stack). My employers have checked my facebook page, myspace, linkedin, etc. I am very aware of my public image online as it effects my professional life. I think more and more everyone has to be. __________________ . "I need no warrant for being, and no word of sanction upon my being. I am the warrant and the sanction. " Ayn Rand, Anthem "So you'll die happily for your sins. You'd rather die in guilt then live in love?" Timothy Leary

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Linus The Planet's Technical Bubba How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him/Geek Relationship Status: Married to my forever! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,440 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,929 Thanked 10,727 Times in 3,172 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	As someone who has a personal blog, a "hobbyist" blog and is working (eventually) towards a professional blog (that's 3 separate blogs) I do believe in freedom of speech. But it's freedom of speech with responsibility. I generally view online communication no different than in person communication (the exceptions are that written is definitely different since tone is lost and people can choose to be there or not). Blogs in forums like this wouldn't be a bad thing since they can allow individuals to talk to a specific community without creating a thread about it (although a thread could be used like a blog). Regardless, however, as with anything: when you post on someone's else's "lawn" you are subject to their rules (TOS). So I would expect that to be true. My own blogs are in my own space but I still have to adhere to the web server provider's rules. I think too many people assume the "Net" belongs to the US and thus, the freedom of speech right applies. It does not. The "Net" is a global semi-private network (that is, various companies own the networks and disk space that is used on the internet and thus, we are subject to what they believe is acceptable). __________________ Personal Blog \|\| [] \|\| Cigar Blog "We become Human Doings instead of Human Beings." -- Ram Dass

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dixie Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: I usually just poke it with a stick. Preferred Pronoun?: Bitch Relationship Status: Intertwined deeply Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: We're all a little mad here. Posts: 6,627 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 10,972 Thanked 21,383 Times in 4,808 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	I blog to get out all the bullshit feelings no matter what they are, who they involve or how they sound. Sometimes they can be all sweet and mushy or sometimes they can be hateful and downright bitchy. The same with my journaling. Both of which remain for my eyes only. Although in the past I did have public blogs but I got tired of asshats just being downright mean even about the nice things I posted or the poetry I wrote. (The mean shit stayed hidden for just me.) I'm not a fan of asshat people, and unfortunately a few follow me just to demean anything I say. So now I don't blog and usually don't even post anything that is "real" to me (aspects of personal life, certain things that are important to me, etc). Sometimes it's not only the blogger who can create dark, vile things but also the readers. It really does depend on the person. I enjoy reading blogs from certain folks. The drama filled shit-stirring ones though, not so much. Last edited by dixie; 04-25-2011 at 09:58 PM.

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04-24-2011, 09:14 PM	#3
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	There are many useful and smart ways to utilize blogs. I think the type of blogs that Strappie is talking about are not bona fide, professional blogs in which the author has professional "scrupples." Sounded to me like the blogs in question are really personal attacks on people.

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Galahad Member How Do You Identify?: do I have to? Relationship Status: single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: I.E. Southern California Posts: 425 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,300 Thanked 339 Times in 151 Posts Rep Power: 1446604	Today I removed my blog from public. I was searching for a castle and found my blog name, clicked on it since I couldn't remember anything about it, and it was some porn pages, not anything of mine. Since I work with kids, I didn't want to take chances. I wonder if that will protect my old posts now or if I should delete the whole thing. There really is no such thing as private on the internet.