Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

[weatherboi]

it is pretty clear EVERYBODY posting in here is emotional. there are hundreds of poc and non poc that are found guilty with less circumstantial evidence than this woman. She got lucky with the 12 people. Corkey if you don't have anything nice to say to me in a rep then just keep it to yourself. I think you know better at this point. Please and thank you!!!

[nowandthen]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Don't you admonish ME about Jim Crow you don't know my background! You are bringing emotion to a fact based system.

Jim Crow is Law not emotion! I am not invested in this case, I am invested in folks being informed, no I do not know you, nor you me, so we can call it even

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by weatherboi

I don't think people are emoting I think it is more like mourning. Mourning for a child forgotten. Mourning a child that will never receive justice. Reasonable doubt does not make her innocent. She just got lucky.

Totally agree. When it comes to the murder of a child it very hard to accept what the jury finds as a verdict.

It is an injustice IMO and yes it is sad that this child will never be vindicated and no wrath will come upon the woman whose hand caused it.

Just sad.

[FlowerFem]

It's hard to imagine a MOTHER could either kill their own baby, or have a hand in it. I don't know how you could live with yourself afterwards . How could you justify that to yourself ? How could your heart be so cold ? I suppose blaming someone else, or something else, seems to be what she attempted to do. What a dark, lost soul, she must be. Very sad.

[kannon]

Originally Posted by nowandthen

Jim Crow is Law not emotion! I am not invested in this case, I am invested in folks being informed, no I do not know you, nor you me, so we can call it even

What does Jim Crow laws have to do with this verdict? Jim Crow laws ended in the 50's or 60's. They were unjust and racist laws that tried to segregate POC. Definitely UNJUST and WRONG. But what does it have to do with this case?

The thread OP asked: Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

[Apocalipstic]

It is hearbreaking when a child is killed, no matter how it happened.

I agree that people spend more time in jail for small amounts of weed, than apparentlyr tampering with a dead body, staging a crime scene and lying to police...and the people likely to spend that time are seldom white.

Our justice system is incredibly flawed.

I also agree that the missing children the media grasps on to seem to always be white from at least Middle Class, female and really cute. How sad for all the other thousands of children missing right now.

Did she do it? If I were forced to guess I would go with yes, but there was not enough direct evidence to convict. But just a guess.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by weatherboi

it is pretty clear EVERYBODY posting in here is emotional. there are hundreds of poc and non poc that are found guilty with less circumstantial evidence than this woman. She got lucky with the 12 people. Corkey if you don't have anything nice to say to me in a rep then just keep it to yourself. I think you know better at this point. Please and thank you!!!

I said in your opinion and I'll say it here, there was no un nice about it, A statement. Period. You are welcome.

[Peach]

this is something difficult to keep emotion OUT of. Yes, 12 people had access to evidence, but that whole trial was on tv almost 24/7, so outside of photgraphs that werent shown on tv, I think the public got most of the same info, but I could be wrong.
MY emotions now are saved for that child who never stood a chance, and for any child she may have in the future, who could be in the same danger. I hesitate to say I hope Casey learns from this, and turns her life around, but *I* feel she is a narcisist and incapable of concern for anyone except her own self, and will not learn a thing.


If she walks free Tursday, which is a huge possiblility, where will she go I wonder? Would her parents allow her bak in their home? Would any of you, if this were your daughter? I dont know if I could or not, after all the lies, and her trying to lay the blame on me, accusations of molestation etc......

[nowandthen]

Originally Posted by kannon

What does Jim Crow laws have to do with this verdict? Jim Crow laws ended in the 50's or 60's. They were unjust and racist laws that tried to segregate POC. Definitely UNJUST and WRONG. But what does it have to do with this case?

The thread OP asked: Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

If you think Jim Crow is over then I suggest reading the book, The New Jim Crow, by Michelle Alexandar. It has everything to do with this case. Race and Class impact every legal case in America. We have a prision for profit society that is fed by the imbalance in the justics system. When you can get life for crack and time served for powder cocaine as an example or the statistacs that show the how many POC are some how under police survelance, jail, probation, youth authority, house arrest, etc. there is no question that we have a new perment class of people who can not particapate, can not get student loans, food stamps, welfare or work because you must check the box that states " have you ever been convicted of a felony" you are marginalized.
The relation to this case is the media coverage, and the perception of the accussed. I have no doubt in my mind that is the accused was a women of color the case would not have been a national news story and guilty would have been the outcome. RACE MATTERS as Dr. West states.

[cinderella]

I just found out that the verdict is: NOT GUILTY!!!

Jesus Christ almighty!!! I am so in shock & disbelief, I'm thinking I must be dreaming!!! What the hell is wrong with people??? I am just speechless at this point, and still recovering from the outcome of the deliberations...so unbelivable...

[kannon]

Originally Posted by nowandthen

If you think Jim Crow is over then I suggest reading the book, The New Jim Crow, by Michelle Alexandar. It has everything to do with this case. Race and Class impact every legal case in America. We have a prision for profit society that is fed by the imbalance in the justics system. When you can get life for crack and time served for powder cocaine as an example or the statistacs that show the how many POC are some how under police survelance, jail, probation, youth authority, house arrest, etc. there is no question that we have a new perment class of people who can not particapate, can not get student loans, food stamps, welfare or work because you must check the box that states " have you ever been convicted of a felony" you are marginalized.
The relation to this case is the media coverage, and the perception of the accussed. I have no doubt in my mind that is the accused was a women of color the case would not have been a national news story and guilty would have been the outcome. RACE MATTERS as Dr. West states.

I agree with you 100% but I think the real victim in this case is the child.

[cinderella]

...what he said!!

Originally Posted by Scorp

I forgot to add that I'm tired of people making excuses for her!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH..GUILTY AS SIN!!!

[cinderella]

From your lips, to God's ears!!!

If there is a God...please, please, please, don't let this woman get away with this - strike her down with lightning or something. That poor baby doesn't deserve this last insult.

Originally Posted by Scorp

Verdict: Not guilty of first degree murder

..I hope you get paid back....

[always2late]

I am shocked and saddened by this...and my heart breaks for that poor little girl. I think that at the very least it should have been a hung jury. If the evidence didn't support a conviction of first degree murder...then at the very least the jury should have asked themselves what kind of mother has a child die in an ACCIDENT and then allows the body to rot in the woods for months where its been dumped like trash while lying to the police? Ok...so its unclear whether she murdered her child or not (according to the evidence), but she KNEW the child was dead! She knew where the body was! And said NOTHING!! How can you reasonably let this woman walk??

My heart weeps...rest in peace little one.

[cinderella]

Or bought, if that were possible - hmmmm, I wonder...

Originally Posted by morningstar55

omg....... this is upseting ......
the jury must of been on drugs

[Dante]

Originally Posted by Peach

this is something difficult to keep emotion OUT of. Yes, 12 people had access to evidence, but that whole trial was on tv almost 24/7, so outside of photgraphs that werent shown on tv, I think the public got most of the same info, but I could be wrong.
MY emotions now are saved for that child who never stood a chance, and for any child she may have in the future, who could be in the same danger. I hesitate to say I hope Casey learns from this, and turns her life around, but *I* feel she is a narcisist and incapable of concern for anyone except her own self, and will not learn a thing.


If she walks free Tursday, which is a huge possiblility, where will she go I wonder? Would her parents allow her bak in their home? Would any of you, if this were your daughter? I dont know if I could or not, after all the lies, and her trying to lay the blame on me, accusations of molestation etc......

Peach, I believe this to be true. I believe that she WILL offend again. People like this, cannot control things like anger, they act on impulse and then usually act with violence, and then it is too late.
Regarding emotion. 1990, I was on a jury for 2 men being tried together, first degree murder, with possibly of the death penalty. I watched this entire case. I never want to be on a jury again. It is emotionally draining when you have to decide the fate for another human being. I believe this jury DID use their emotions and thereby, not follow the law! Several of my fellow jurors were affected by the so called Stockholm Syndrone, and because of the length of the trial and feeling or emotions for the defendant can develop. However, we were very conscious of our duties and felt we HAD to follow the law in that you are not to use your emotions or feelings for any and all parties involved. In my opinion, this jury took the easy way out. And they felt for poor little Casey. This makes me sick! Even the defense attorney in his closing put the dead body of little Caylee in HER trunk!!! WTF...It sucks that the jury wasn't allowed to see more evidence about Casey's priors and her behavior. I sincerely believe that we have not heard the last of Casey! She will become desperate again. Who is going to hire her? Doubt she will go live with the parents again.

[Medusa]

Gotta say that the defense was pretty genius with staging her as a tiny little thing. The pink shirts and ruffles? The ponytails? Lowering her chair almost all the way to the floor?

Psychological genius.

[cinderella]

In my OP, I stated that I'd only been 'sporadically' watching this case - so I don't know every little detail. My question to you, Medusa, is, what do you mean by 'abuse of a corpse'? How was the corpse abused? Can you elaborate? Perhaps this came out during a time I was not watching...thanks.

Originally Posted by Medusa

I wonder why the prosecution did not add "Abuse of a Corpse" to her charges? That would at least carry a felony charge that she might have been convicted for.

[Andrew, Jr.]

31 days this 2 yo little girl is missing...and her mother is out partying. I agree with George Anthony stating today that it was a "baseless defense". I am sure Judge Belvin Perry is also shocked. For me, it is the same as the OJ Simpson trial. God help us all.

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by cinderella

In my OP, I stated that I'd only been 'sporadically' watching this case - so I don't know every little detail. My question to you, Medusa, is, what do you mean by 'abuse of a corpse'? How was the corpse abused? Can you elaborate? Perhaps this came out during a time I was not watching...thanks.

What I meant was that in most states there are very strict laws dealing with the proper disposal of dead bodies and that, in this case, it is clear that even if the jury believed that Casey Anthony did not cause her child's death, she at the very least did not dispose of the body properly if we believe the (bullshit) story about her drowning in a pool.

Had I been the prosecuting attorney, I would have added the "corpse abuse" charge in order to at least guarantee a minimum sentence (1 year I think? with a maximum of 5?) even if the jury didnt find her guilty.

Because clearly, someone threw this child's body in the swamp and duct taped her and wrapped her in a bag. I dont recall hearing if there was ever an explanation as to how or who disposed of the body but I wish that charge would have been added.