Tea Party leader says anti-gay bullying is ‘healthy peer pressure’

[Okiebug61]

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/06/t...sure%E2%80%99/

I had not seen this until today. This man is crazy.

[Ebon]

No words.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/06/t...sure%E2%80%99/

I had not seen this until today. This man is crazy.

And Michelle Bachmann is piling up votes and money!! Her husband used to do therapy to make gay people go straight!!!

I am sickened by how far the Tea Party movement has "moved" in the US. Scary as hell!

[Okiebug61]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

And Michelle Bachmann is piling up votes and money!! Her husband used to do therapy to make gay people go straight!!!

I am sickened by how far the Tea Party movement has "moved" in the US. Scary as hell!

Yes! I just found that info here

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/07/u...re-gay-people/

[Mister Bent]

"Homosexuality is simply bad behavior..."

I'm sending you all to your rooms.

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

And Michelle Bachmann is piling up votes and money!! Her husband used to do therapy to make gay people go straight!!!

I am sickened by how far the Tea Party movement has "moved" in the US. Scary as hell!

I don't understand how they are not a joke like the Fred Phelps gang.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by Ebon

I don't understand how they are not a joke like the Fred Phelps gang.

The sad thing is, even as a joke, they still do their damage. Phelps has his followers, and he won that suit brought against him by the family of one of the soldier's who's funeral he protested.

Michele Bachmann recently signed the pledge to uphold "traditional" marriage, which includes rejection of Sharia Islam, supporting legal advocacy for DOMA and

"Fierce defense of the First Amendment rights...especially against the intolerance of any who would undermine law-abiding American citizens and institutions of faith and conscience for their adherence to, and defense of, faithful heterosexual monogamy."

The pledge also manages to slip in that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk and calls for banning female pornography "in an effort to protect women from 'seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography . . . and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.'" What's interesting about that to me (in the sense that I am interested in institutionalized hypocrisy) is that they condemn Sharia law and other "anti-woman...forms of totalitarian control" while reinforcing the notion that sexualized women are part of the problem with fidelity and the decline in "family values."

Unfortunately, while many of us can see that this is all serious crazy talk, there are enough people - especially among fundamentalist religious types - who think this is precisely what's required to "turn this country around" and so Bachmann's campaign coffers grow.

[iamkeri1]

I knew from the headline that I didn't want to read this thread.
I need to go throw up now.

I don't care what those a-holes say, I love gay people so much. We are such a wide and amazing diversity of people that I am continually delighted when in a company of a bunch of queers.

I love you all and I send you many...
Smooches,
Keri

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

The sad thing is, even as a joke, they still do their damage. Phelps has his followers, and he won that suit brought against him by the family of one of the soldier's who's funeral he protested.

Michele Bachmann recently signed the pledge to uphold "traditional" marriage, which includes rejection of Sharia Islam, supporting legal advocacy for DOMA and

"Fierce defense of the First Amendment rights...especially against the intolerance of any who would undermine law-abiding American citizens and institutions of faith and conscience for their adherence to, and defense of, faithful heterosexual monogamy."

The pledge also manages to slip in that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk and calls for banning female pornography "in an effort to protect women from 'seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography . . . and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.'" What's interesting about that to me (in the sense that I am interested in institutionalized hypocrisy) is that they condemn Sharia law and other "anti-woman...forms of totalitarian control" while reinforcing the notion that sexualized women are part of the problem with fidelity and the decline in "family values."

Unfortunately, while many of us can see that this is all serious crazy talk, there are enough people - especially among fundamentalist religious types - who think this is precisely what's required to "turn this country around" and so Bachmann's campaign coffers grow.

Interesting pledge. So many Americans will agree with it and will say that it's their right as a straight person to be able to defend themselves. And will probably also couch it with "I don't hate gays. I have gay friends".

Hrmm... that sounds awfully familiar, no?

[*Anya*]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

And Michelle Bachmann is piling up votes and money!! Her husband used to do therapy to make gay people go straight!!!

I am sickened by how far the Tea Party movement has "moved" in the US. Scary as hell!

I enjoy democracy immensely. It is incomparably idiotic, and hence incomparably amusing. Does it exalt dunderheads, cowards, trimmers, frauds, cads? Then the pain of seeing them go up is balanced and obliterated by the joy of seeing them come down...

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.<<disallowed word>>

~H. L. Mencken~

“The two main ideas that run through all of my writing, whether it be literary criticism or political polemic are these: I am strong in favor of liberty and I hate fraud."

[CherylNYC]

I fervently hope that someone arrests Mr. Swier in a public men's room for his 'wide stance'.

Then it would be Michelle Bachman's turn to get arrested for assaulting her undocumented immigrant housekeeper.

Ms. Bachman's husband will be caught sexting his penis pics to his boyfriend Fred Phelps, who will die of a stroke brought on by the stress of exposure. Upon his death, the Westboro group will find that their organisation is bankrupt since Mr Phelps has spent the donated money on rent boys who he hired to 'carry his luggage'.

Mr. Bachman will appeal to his old friend Rush Limbaugh to help him out with his marriage. Ms. Bachman is not pleased because the press has been leaking her husband's gay sexts one by one over the week. She does, however, like that they take the focus off her own legal troubles. Rush manages to broker a deal between them, and they've arranged to meet behind the local 7-11 at Mr.Limbaugh's request. (He had to meet his dealer there, first.) The local tabloids have hacked Ms. Bachman's phone and they send a stealth news team to cover the event.

Unfortunately, Rush will proceed to OD in the Bachman's car with them at his side. Mr. Limbaugh's dealer will be arrested just after he cops, and the dealer will instantly give him up to the arresting officers. The local constabulary will descend upon the suspect car just after the news team starts filming the Bachman's trying desperately to drag the larger-than-life body of Mr. Limbaugh into the drainage ditch behind the dimly lit parking lot.

Did I leave anyone out?

[Chancie]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

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The pledge also manages to slip in that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk and calls for banning female pornography "in an effort to protect women from 'seduction into promiscuity and all forms of pornography . . . and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.'" What's interesting about that to me (in the sense that I am interested in institutionalized hypocrisy) is that they condemn Sharia law and other "anti-woman...forms of totalitarian control" while reinforcing the notion that sexualized women are part of the problem with fidelity and the decline in "family values."

<snip>

It Can't Happen Here

[Okiebug61]

The big message for me is how important it is for us to vote on our local level. These crazy people come from small beginnings. IE: Palin UGGHHHH vote vote vote

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Ebon

I don't understand how they are not a joke like the Fred Phelps gang.

I know, yet they have positioned themselves very powerfully! No joke.

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

The big message for me is how important it is for us to vote on our local level. These crazy people come from small beginnings. IE: Palin UGGHHHH vote vote vote

And be pro-active in stopping the very real and nationwide attempts at voter suppression and interference with voter registration. This is a serious situation.

I so agree with you. Local elections have actually become more important to me than the big ones (yes, I vote in all of them)- I just feel like can make a difference. I have volunteered for campaigns since I was in college (a millennia ago) and feel that the local ones give me the most satisfaction because I can see the result right in front of me.

I know how frustrating it gets seeing people like Bachmann gaining in polls and being able to bring in troves of money to "causes" and political policies that most of us here find so very wrong- so frustrating there have been many times I have though "Why the hell even vote." But, somehow I get the energy going to participate in this democracy, yet it is the smaller, closer kinds of elections of things like ballot measures that usually get me back to involvement.

I think a lot about the "wins" that do come along that really are due to grass roots efforts and it does make a difference.

It is just so damn hard to look at what is going on right now in Congress and at the "actors" and keep going. With the effects of the recession and what looks like a total disconnect among our politicians in DC (some are also Democrats) with what "common" people are going through, I do keep thinking that we have got to make much more noise. We really can't sit back and allow organizations such as the tea Party continue to exert such power over our politicians. We really can't.

You bet, get involved locally!

[iamkeri1]

ALH
Most Democracies have a "labor" party of some kind or another. I think we could have the basis of a good third party if Unions (and other laborers) would unite behind the plan. I think a government where legislators were forced to make coalitions would improve things.
Smooches,
Keri

[iamkeri1]

My wish (goal) foir the speakers of anti-queer hate is that people begin to see them as the hate mongering, crime soliciting, intelligence lacking, anti-Christian (anti most religion.) felons that they are. I want them to fear revealing their beliefs with the same life altering intensity that we experienced until just a few years ago. I want them to be scorned and mocked in public. I want signs to be posted in front of their homes listing their misdeeds. I want them to be banned from their churches, kicked out of their housing and fired from their jobs, because they are truly "an abomination unto the lord."

And finally I would like to see them sentenced to lengthy stays in one of those wonderful privately run prisons they also support so enthusiastically, and be subject to the abuses that frequently occur in these institutions.

I guess you could say I"m pissed!

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by Chancie

It Can't Happen Here

Doremus was my father's middle name, and he was a journalist. True story.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Chancie

It Can't Happen Here

One of my favorite Sinclair Lewis books. Also one of the most chilling fiction books (along with 1984 and The Handmaid's Tale) I've ever read

Cheers
Adrienne

[Vanessa Emma Goldman]

yeah, i got lots of that so-called "healthy peer pressure" when i was growing up. and i am lucky that i did not end up blowing my brains out from all the pain. these right wingers are so full of shit.