'True heroes' mourned after Taliban fighters down chopper, killing 30 US troops.

[Gráinne]

I think we need to get out now, no foreign aid, no nothing to Afghanistan. If no one's been able to make a nation out of the place for over 200 years, then we won't, either. This makes me angry.

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by guihong

I think we need to get out now, no foreign aid, no nothing to Afghanistan. If no one's been able to make a nation out of the place for over 200 years, then we won't, either. This makes me angry.

uhhhhh.....make a nation out of the place?????......makes you angry?????

How do you think all those tribes/peoples in what is now Iraqi and Afghanistan feel? The West is who decided what land area would be called Iraq and Afghanixtan, (and Israel and the camps and reservations the Palestinians live on) not the tribes who have lived on those lands for tens of thousands of years.

[Gráinne]

Originally Posted by Toughy

uhhhhh.....make a nation out of the place?????......makes you angry?????

How do you think all those tribes/peoples in what is now Iraqi and Afghanistan feel? The West is who decided what land area would be called Iraq and Afghanixtan, (and Israel and the camps and reservations the Palestinians live on) not the tribes who have lived on those lands for tens of thousands of years.

Exactly, so let's get out and let the Afghanis run their country as they see fit. Everyone doesn't have to run their country as we run ours, no matter what we say. That goes for Iraq, as well. But no need to jump on me because I may not be as eloquent about current events as others are.