Political Predictions

[Sabine Gallais]

I predict that it will eventually be revealed that Obama's numbers are far worse and far lower than what the MSM reports currently. If this is what they are reporting, imagine what the truth must be?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44401295/ns/politics/

[clay]

Roseanne Barr will be elected!!

[Slater]

I predict that Michelle "Crazy Eyes" Bachmann will make some noise in the primaries but won't be serious contender for the nomination. Kinda hope I'm wrong because she is way too nuts to win the general. Most of the deep pockets in the Republican party loathe her. Romney is where the money is. If he can make it through the primaries, he will win the general as long as voter turnout is sluggish. Perry is the wildcard.

I further predict that if Obama loses a second term, the long view will say pretty much what the short view has said. The administration chronically underestimated just how batshit the Republican party had become and continued to deal with them as though they were interested in being anything but obstructionist. This gave the fringe way too much power.

[dreadgeek]

I predict that IF Obama wins next year (and I wouldn't give him even odds at this point) the GOP coalition will tear itself apart as the Tea Party/John Birch wing of the party is shuffled off to Buffalo by the traditional, GOP elites.

I further predict that IF the GOP nominee wins next year that the United States will take a turn so far to the right that most of the last half-century will be repealed (meaning good bye to Medicare, Social Security, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act, Title IX, Roe v Wade, and most local ordinances providing ANY protection to gays and lesbians and/or private companies losing government contracts if they provide same-sex partner benefits).

Cheers
Aj

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by Slater

I predict that Michelle "Crazy Eyes" Bachmann
OK that made me giggle. nomination. Kinda hope I'm wrong because she is way too nuts to win the general.Agreed Most of the deep pockets in the Republican party loathe her.Do they Loathe her, or are they still unable to get past a woman for president? Romney is where the money is. If he can make it through the primaries, he will win the general as long as voter turnout is sluggish. Perry is the wildcard.

I further predict that if Obama loses a second term, the long view will say pretty much what the short view has said. The administration chronically underestimated just how batshit the Republican party had become and continued to deal with them as though they were interested in being anything but obstructionist.[sad, that this is our view of *for the people*] This gave the fringe way too much power.

Good post. Thank you.

[betenoire]

Honestly, and I'm not even being silly or mean. But. I predict y'all are fucked.

[AtLast]

I predict a far more critical economic situation by the 2012 general election in which a double-dip recession occurs (within 6-8 months) and unemployment rises to depression rates or very nearly there. The influx of veterans returning from Afghanistan and not finding work will be a tipping point.

Obama will not be re-elected and a GOP administration will be eating a lot of crow because the federal government will have to apply Depression era tactics such as the WPA in order to stabilize unemployment- mainly in housing and construction sectors. There will be no other way as there will be a real threat of destabilization in our streets across the country. But this will not stop right-wing ideology continuing to grow and be more firmly in place to take down our social/entitlement programs as we come back from this crisis. There will be crisis measures taken, then "corrections" made in order for the GOP to continue on its mission to overturn any and all social programs put in place since FDR's administration.

Congress will gain Democratic seats and have a very slim majority with a GOP as president. There will not be a choice in this due to pressure from global markets and European pressure on the US as well as our being down graded further by all 3 major rating agencies due to the inaction of the present Congress during this time prior to the general.

I think that a Romney-Bachmann ticket will be elected to the Whitehouse. UGH.

I wouldn't mind being totally wrong about all of this, especially Obama not being re-elected.

[dreadgeek]

ALH:

I don't know if Romney can win the GOP primary. Think about the current GOP coalition:

1) Neo-conservatives
2) Right-Libertarians
3) Christian conservatives
4) The traditional, blue-blood Republicans
5) Tea Partiers
6) White Southerners
7) White blue-collar men

Groups 1, 2 and 4 would be just as happy to be done with groups 3, 5, 6 and 7. If it were up to 1, 2 and 4 Romney would be the nominee, Rubio would be the Veep nominee. But if 3, 5, 6 and 7 are going to turn out (and without them the GOP can't win national offices) Romney cannot be the nominee. Fundamentalist evangelicals still, to this day, consider the LDS a cult and not included in the circle of 'Christian' (they also consider Catholicism a cult). So Romney doesn't make it out of Super Tuesday. I think we're looking at Perry someone else which is probably Obama's *best* bet but even against Perry i wouldn't give Obama anything better than even odds. Hell, the only person I know he *could* beat is Palin and she's not getting the nomination.

The combination I would be concerned about, if I were a Democratic strategist, would be Huntsman-Rubio or even Huntsman-Romney. However, Huntsman has the same problem as Romney, he's a Mormon, plus an additional problem which is that Huntsman is kind of sane. Barring a dark horse, I see it as Perry-Rubio. Perry-Bachmann is too much of the crazy and she brings nothing to the ticket that Perry doesn't already bring. Rubio perhaps brings in the blue blood Republicans.

Both parties have a problem going in to 2012. The Democratic party has a demoralized base (whether that is justified or not, I won't bother with here), a weak President as standard bearer, and really horrifically bad economic numbers dragging them down. The GOP has the problem that anyone who can survive the primaries gets creamed in the general election OR loses the base because they have to pivot in order to grab independents. The farther right the Tea Party (which IS the GOP base, don't let the media fool you on this) drags the GOP, the more sharp the pivot and the greater the risk of alienating the base.

What the base *wants* to hear is that in the first year both Social Security and Medicare will be repealed, DOMA will be strengthened, DADT reinstated, the EPA and Education department disbanded and Sharia law will be made illegal. That's what they *want* to hear. But anyone running on that platform dooms themselves in the general election and cannot turn from ANY of those items lest the base bolt.

As far as how the GOP will handle things if/when they win the White House I dunno. In a different time and in a different place, I think the GOP would be forced to behave precisely how they would like to. I'm not sure that the GOP would have to do that these days. I think that, given the advantages that the government has vis a vis surveillance and given the latitude that any Republican President will be given by a Republican congress and the national media, I don't see that the GOP need do *anything* about jobs.

I say for the following reasons:

1) A GOP President (but never a Democratic one) could order anyone picked up, at any time, for any reason and held without charge for an indefinite period of time.

2) All manner of shady games can be played with voting machines and, more ominously, voting rights.

3) PROVIDED that any protests are on the West coast OR involves large numbers of non-white (read not traditionally Republican) peoples truly draconian measures to quell the protests (which will be called riots no matter how peaceful) will be approved of.

4) In the course of the first term, the newly minted POTUS will wax poetic about the churches providing relief. Anyone who does NOT want to accept the churches terms will be considered to have done that to themselves. (By terms, I mean 'convert or starve')

Cheers
Aj

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

I predict a far more critical economic situation by the 2012 general election in which a double-dip recession occurs (within 6-8 months) and unemployment rises to depression rates or very nearly there. The influx of veterans returning from Afghanistan and not finding work will be a tipping point.

Obama will not be re-elected and a GOP administration will be eating a lot of crow because the federal government will have to apply Depression era tactics such as the WPA in order to stabilize unemployment- mainly in housing and construction sectors. There will be no other way as there will be a real threat of destabilization in our streets across the country. But this will not stop right-wing ideology continuing to grow and be more firmly in place to take down our social/entitlement programs as we come back from this crisis. There will be crisis measures taken, then "corrections" made in order for the GOP to continue on its mission to overturn any and all social programs put in place since FDR's administration.

Congress will gain Democratic seats and have a very slim majority with a GOP as president. There will not be a choice in this due to pressure from global markets and European pressure on the US as well as our being down graded further by all 3 major rating agencies due to the inaction of the present Congress during this time prior to the general.

I think that a Romney-Bachmann ticket will be elected to the Whitehouse. UGH.

I wouldn't mind being totally wrong about all of this, especially Obama not being re-elected.

[afixer]

Originally Posted by betenoire

Honestly, and I'm not even being silly or mean. But. I predict y'all are fucked.

I predict that you're correct on this.

[Reader]

I predict that watching this Repub debate may make me vomit....and so far I haven't even heard Bachmann speak.