Have you met or know a psychopath/sociopath?

[moxie]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

I dunno puregrr, is'nt antisocial a personality disorder also? I always thought of it as being on a spectrum with a sociopath being the ultimate narcissistic personality. popcorn- bs in psych.

Yes, there is an Antisocial Personality Disorder, but there are also others, 9 more if I remember correctly (I don't have my DSM at home). They are grouped into diagnostic clusters based on traits. And just because someone has been diagnosed with a personality disorder it doesn't mean they have psychopathic/sociopathic traits. It's kinda like saying that just because someone has auditory hallucinations, they must have schizophrenia.

There is a lot of stigma with mental illness. There are so many people with mental health problems that don't get help because of the judgment and assumptions people make.

When I tell people I am therapist, one of the first things I am most always told/asked is "Oh, that must be scary. Have you ever been assaulted/hurt/threatened/creeped out/etc etc.?" That's because of the stigma.

I could go on forever about it, but I'll shut up.

[imperfect_cupcake]

also, not all psychopaths kill/attack people. There's a great program on this how nature plus nurture = how it manifests. One of the people who found the "gene" and brain print activity map for psychopathy did a test on his family and found that he carried the gene AND the brain map print. He had to sit down and think about how this is reflected in his behaviour. But he has no violent tendencies. He chalks that up to having a good childhood with no abuse and happy, well functioning parents.

It's on Horizon. "the moral molecule" - I am irritated with their sensationalising of it (using the word "evil") but other than that irritation, I thought it was good.

[mariamma]

Originally Posted by honeybarbara

It's on Horizon. "the moral molecule" - I am irritated with their sensationalising of it (using the word "evil") but other than that irritation, I thought it was good.

Excellent point! and Yes I did erase the other point. Oxytocin is being marketed as a Moral molecule, as a saving grace of Autistic people, as a magickal medicine. I do energy work meaning I work with the energy of oxytocin and other hormones and neurotransmitters. You can give someone the molecule but it won't work energetically if the person doesn't do the work!!! You can strap on a TENS unit and clench all the muscles in the body but you will not be ripped! You might be stronger? But honestly, nothing will change unless you do the work. Just taking a molecule will not change this.

[Lady Pamela]

This thread just hit home to one of the biggest, most dangerious and threatening happenings in mt life.

I will finish reading and then I will post.

But before I do, I want every person who has endured anything for someone like this, to know that your not alone.
To know, how incredible you are for getting away.
And to know, how amazing you are for surviving such.

.

[julieisafemme]

Thank you very much for this post. I have OCD and it is often troubling to me when people try to diagnose someone else or assume things about me because I have a mental illness. The stigma is very real. I am very open about my OCD because I am not ashamed of it and I want people to understand that stereotypes about it and other mental illness so rarely touch on the real pain that they cause.

Originally Posted by puregrrl

Yes, there is an Antisocial Personality Disorder, but there are also others, 9 more if I remember correctly (I don't have my DSM at home). They are grouped into diagnostic clusters based on traits. And just because someone has been diagnosed with a personality disorder it doesn't mean they have psychopathic/sociopathic traits. It's kinda like saying that just because someone has auditory hallucinations, they must have schizophrenia.

There is a lot of stigma with mental illness. There are so many people with mental health problems that don't get help because of the judgment and assumptions people make.

When I tell people I am therapist, one of the first things I am most always told/asked is "Oh, that must be scary. Have you ever been assaulted/hurt/threatened/creeped out/etc etc.?" That's because of the stigma.

I could go on forever about it, but I'll shut up.

[WolfyOne]

Yes, I grew up with one
He's in prison now for murders he says he didn't commit with 3 others
It was long ago, the others have all been put to death
They never had enough on him to put him to death, but he is serving a life sentence for being involved
They all said he was their ringleader
He's the kind of person that can lie to your face, believe what he says and make you believe it, too
Sadly he's been that way forever

[Soon]

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

[Quintease]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

My God.

It scares me that I dated a psycopath/sociopath, I will never know which one she was. To this day it freaks me out that I put myself in danger for so long, unable to see what was happening right in front of my face.

I feel sorry for whoever's life she is messing up now. Really really sorry.

[laruss]

My biological father is a sociopath and for years I actually thought I was the damaged one, the unlovable one. He was really good at not taking responsibility for anything and turning it around on to others.

It took only a few months of his living with us when my children were young for me to figure out it wasn't me, it was him. He is so ill I can never have him in my life again.

I am quite sure in his new life that no one would even know I existed, and that is probably for the best.

[Softly]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

IT HAPPENED TO ME: I WAS MARRIED TO A SOCIOPATH

so sad! I am glad she got away

[thedivahrrrself]

I was also married to a sociopath. Never officially diagnosed - maybe she had another personality disorder - but something was definitely WRONG with her.

We met, she was charming, things moved very quickly. She was a genius - MENSA level - but she could never hold down a job because she had these intense conflicts with her superiors. I began to suspect she had sociopathic tendencies because she seemed to feel a genuine malice towards all humanity.

After the illusion was gone (I spent 8 years with her), I found out things that shocked me. She built bombs as a kid. She stole thousands of dollars from me. She could lie without batting an eye, and she made it very believable. She was incredibly manipulative. I always felt like I was to blame for any wrong I caught her doing. She could fake crying as easily as she lied. She'd been married before, and literally only got married to show up an ex who had hurt her by marrying a man. She spent tons of money on this "revenge" wedding, which lasted less than a month when the poor girl realized X had no feelings for her. She would lie to me about getting mugged when she had actually been gambling. She would lie to me about her day, saying all these horrible things happened when I found out later she had just been sitting around playing video games all day. I would cater to her needs to try and make her feel better, and as it turns out, that was all she wanted.

I feel sad for her sometimes because she seems frustrated by the fact that she cannot really connect with people. When we broke up, she called all her "friends", but none of them would even let her sleep on their couch. She never really bonded with her parents or even anyone in her family, save her grandmother, who she sees very rarely. When she found out I had arranged a date with someone after she moved away, she went out and got a girlfriend the next day. She texts me things like "Why do I always make girls cry?" to which I can only respond "because you have no emotions". She was always baffled by mine when we were together. When I would cry, she would just stare at me, puzzled, with no instinct whatsoever to do anything to comfort me.

I'm not an expert. I know many of you are - does this sound like a sociopath to you?

[rustedrims]

I dont know if i should let out a sigh of relief or {sorry getting graphic} throw up in my lap everything i have eaten for the last 3 years.It just sickens me why my sister is doing this to me.I am completely devistated and heart broken over it all.I spent the night in jail and i have a Lawyer now.I am in this a little over $2,000 to keep myself out of jail.On my 3rd Protection Order and have 10 days of jail hanging over my head until April 11th 2013.Had to plea to something that i did not do to end this bullshit.Just because she had a bad day.Well she had another bad day and got me again and back in the court system.Again something that i did not do.I promise you all i did not do what i am accused of.

I found this thread yesterday and i read everything.I have used the word "charming" and her being a "bully".When i saw those 2 words that described her and the hair raised up on my arms.She is truly a horrible person and everyone in the family does not want her around them or at their houses.She is homeless now because of herself.

I will be back in here in a few days after i get my thoughts together and post.I need some good advise how to beat her at her own game.She has quite a story.What i saw in her house was horrifying and burned into my brain.I will never forget what i saw.Very sad.

I am trying to handle this on my own but i think i need help.

s.

[mariamma]

Originally Posted by thedivahrrrself

I'm not an expert. I know many of you are - does this sound like a sociopath to you?

Not an expert.....but yeah.....
http://www.livestrong.com/article/96...&utm_medium=a1

[always2late]

Originally Posted by thedivahrrrself

I was also married to a sociopath. Never officially diagnosed - maybe she had another personality disorder - but something was definitely WRONG with her.

We met, she was charming, things moved very quickly. She was a genius - MENSA level - but she could never hold down a job because she had these intense conflicts with her superiors. I began to suspect she had sociopathic tendencies because she seemed to feel a genuine malice towards all humanity.

After the illusion was gone (I spent 8 years with her), I found out things that shocked me. She built bombs as a kid. She stole thousands of dollars from me. She could lie without batting an eye, and she made it very believable. She was incredibly manipulative. I always felt like I was to blame for any wrong I caught her doing. She could fake crying as easily as she lied. She'd been married before, and literally only got married to show up an ex who had hurt her by marrying a man. She spent tons of money on this "revenge" wedding, which lasted less than a month when the poor girl realized X had no feelings for her. She would lie to me about getting mugged when she had actually been gambling. She would lie to me about her day, saying all these horrible things happened when I found out later she had just been sitting around playing video games all day. I would cater to her needs to try and make her feel better, and as it turns out, that was all she wanted.

I feel sad for her sometimes because she seems frustrated by the fact that she cannot really connect with people. When we broke up, she called all her "friends", but none of them would even let her sleep on their couch. She never really bonded with her parents or even anyone in her family, save her grandmother, who she sees very rarely. When she found out I had arranged a date with someone after she moved away, she went out and got a girlfriend the next day. She texts me things like "Why do I always make girls cry?" to which I can only respond "because you have no emotions". She was always baffled by mine when we were together. When I would cry, she would just stare at me, puzzled, with no instinct whatsoever to do anything to comfort me.

I'm not an expert. I know many of you are - does this sound like a sociopath to you?

To keep it short and simple.....Yes.

[Lady Pamela]

The question is;
Have you met or know a psychopath/sociopath?
The answer is;
Most definately seen that demon. YES!
And sorry if it is to long to read. But this is the very short version in truth.

I was raised in the mormon church with very strict values and ideas.
Which included being married in the temple, to a man.
And truely believed back then that I would go to hell if I did not.

I knew I was attracted to woman at a very early age, but never dared to say anything.
And did not know there was such thing as a lesbian at that time.
So I thought I was truely warped and for sure.

Anyways, fast forward to when I was 20 and walking down the street to go to

Denny's.
A man aproached me stating his sister was lost and told me the description.
Asked me if If I had seen her, and can he walk with me to the coffee shop.
Of course, being helpful I said yes.

This is how he wormed his way in.
And 30 years later, this is my story...condensed version of course.
And leaving alot out that was much to gory .
Also, people like this in many cases, appear tottally normal and even liked by most.
Outside of the home of the persons which they try to dominate that is.

My mamma tried to warn me.
And told me he was evil and mentally unstable.
But of course I did not want to hear that. And thought I knew better.
Silly me!

My nightmare started the very night I got married.
I had never seen any type of behaviour from him this way.
I was getting ready to go to bed. He said come to bed.
I said, I will when I am done getting ready.
He said, I own you and broke all the lights in the house with a frying pan.
I was horribly scared right from the get go.
I took off outside, running down the road in a nighty.
Needless to say, he caught me later.
I was so scared I stayed. And my religion made me even more committed.

No one told me devorce was ok if abuse was present.
Call me dumb but I truely did believe I had made my bed so to speak.

Well, I was physically with him this time 1 year.
He burnt my arms for saying I was going to quit smoking, when I picked up a smoke.
Beat me beyond imagination. Several times.
Made me fear his every word and move.
Stuff I can not mention here as well.
As well as keeping me under threat with a knife the last year.
And swore that if he couldn't have me if I ever left, then he would kill me my daughter

and also the child I now carried as well.

I left anyways..to a battered womans shelter.
But very shortly he found me. And out of fear for my children I went back.
He took me to texas and I had no one there.For another year, this one even worse..I

stayed.

The one thing I thought I could count on is he wasn't mean to the kids.
That is, that I knew of.
All doors had been removed from the rooms in the house so he could see me at all

times.
He used to take a butcher knife and jab it over the shower curtain to freak me out.
He had a knife that stayed on the counter at all times which I was not allowed to

touch. EVER!

I again became pragnant and he slammed me repeatedly in a metal door and then

kicked me with steal toed boots to teach me a lesson. How dare I get pragnant

without his aproval.

The next day, I was taking a shower and got out.
I wittnessed my daughter go flying acrossed the room and him holding her by her feet

out a two story window.
I got her back in and watched her like a hawk.
The next day, as soon as he went to the store...
I called my mom who called a social worker of sorts.
She said whatever he has acused me of doing, is what he is planning.
OMG! He acused me of having someone after him to kill him amoungst other things.
I RAN TO THE CLOSEST CHURCH!
It was a Sunday and they were all in meeting...miricles do happen I tell you.
They all pulled money out..enough to get me and the kids back to Utah...and helped

see us off.

So I get to Utah and the battered womans shelter sent me to hospital and saved my

baby.

It was quite awhile after...I started having issues.
Things missing in my house. Food eaten.
Calls that couldn't be tracked to a sex line.
I was on the phone to the telephone operater and there was a pause while she

researched stuff.
When she came back on the line and I was telling her no one was home during the

time of the calls..A mans voice came of the line and said," Fuck You!"
The operater said," Ma'am get out of your home now..that is coming from within your

home!"
This is but 1 thing that happened after I left him.

He stalked me seriously hard for 17 years.
He lived in my attick..which I proved.
He lived in a crawl space in my home which was eventually found.
He chisseled my chimney and basement walls that were brick to eneter my home.
And I found out he had molested my daughter all that time.

He cut up my sons bed.
He lefts hurt animals in the dryer.
He left his type of knife as a calling card of many ocassions. ETC ETC ETC

You get the point.

So yes...I was married to a paranoid socialpath with delusional episodes they said.
The worst kind!

Ok sorry for the book...I just wanted to touch on how extremely dangerious they can

be.
And tell anyone who may be in one to seek help now.

Sorry if I was to graphic..I tried to leave out the worst stuff.
And still make my point!

[thedivahrrrself]

Lady Pamela,

I'm glad you are safe now. Holy shit, that sounds like a horror movie!!