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1QuirkyKiwi, I did not know you had Spina Bifida. I have never had a patient with this. So, please be gentle on me due to my ignorance. Tai Chi works, in part, with the meridians. Do you find that moving the energy up and through your body (and crutches) is what soothes your spasms? Is it the concentrated movement that eases you?? I really like Tai Chi, but I don't have an ongoing practice.

Yoga is for me a place of great inspiration. I get some of my best ideas for circles or rituals or articles I write, during yoga. I don't resist carrying a pen and booklet with me anymore to my classes.

I have a brain injury from a stroke and it changed me sssssoooo much and what I could do pre and what I can do post are quite different. Like lots different. It helps me to understand our human body when given the opportunity to discuss with others their bodies changes and/or limitations.

Like Einstein said "I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious". And this fox is never ending curious.
Foxy, no worries about your “ignorance”, you haven’t shown any, lol! I’ve had to make this post a lot more concise that what I’d originally written, lol!

I have mentioned my Spina Bifida a couples of times in passing in posts – it’s not something I talk about; not because I’m ashamed of having it, I’m not! As you are aware there is a certain “stigma” attached to it, sadly. I have a complicated form of Spina Bifida Occulta.

My Tai Chi practice is a slower and more deliberate movement to help keep my Spine (and the rest of me) gently moving without over stressing my body – I’m much slower at doing things when my back is in spasm, and with some movement being very restricted until the spasm ceases. I use my Qi energy to infuse a positive energy and suppleness into my Spine and my abdominal organs, for better digestion and some pain relief, etc.

I’ve had to adapt my Tai Chi practice to allow for my use of crutches and my leg paralysis and tremours, as some of the Qatar are not possible with them – this has lead me to using “props”. My crutches can (and do) get in the way, but, are just to hold me up, so I don’t collapse into a heap on the floor, lol! I’m neither elegant nor graceful on my decent! LOL!

Iyengar Yoga is my main stretching exercise when I’m not in spasm – it’s excellent for Spina Bifida suffers and does help with pain relief to a point. It helps to keep my Spine in alignment and gently stretch and exercise my muscles and joints.

Throughout the day, I’ll use some Tai Chi Qatar to help ease pain with the gently movements – the same with some Yoga Asana when not in spasm.

Can I ask; was your recovery faster with Yoga nd Tai Chi? I understand if you would prefer to PM instead of answering here more publicly.

Einstein was right! This Kiwi is forever getting her beak into curiosity, lol!
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Foxy, no worries about your “ignorance”, you haven’t shown any, lol! I’ve had to make this post a lot more concise that what I’d originally written, lol!

I have mentioned my Spina Bifida a couples of times in passing in posts – it’s not something I talk about; not because I’m ashamed of having it, I’m not! As you are aware there is a certain “stigma” attached to it, sadly. I have a complicated form of Spina Bifida Occulta.

My Tai Chi practice is a slower and more deliberate movement to help keep my Spine (and the rest of me) gently moving without over stressing my body – I’m much slower at doing things when my back is in spasm, and with some movement being very restricted until the spasm ceases. I use my Qi energy to infuse a positive energy and suppleness into my Spine and my abdominal organs, for better digestion and some pain relief, etc.

I’ve had to adapt my Tai Chi practice to allow for my use of crutches and my leg paralysis and tremours, as some of the Qatar are not possible with them – this has lead me to using “props”. My crutches can (and do) get in the way, but, are just to hold me up, so I don’t collapse into a heap on the floor, lol! I’m neither elegant nor graceful on my decent! LOL!

Iyengar Yoga is my main stretching exercise when I’m not in spasm – it’s excellent for Spina Bifida suffers and does help with pain relief to a point. It helps to keep my Spine in alignment and gently stretch and exercise my muscles and joints.

Throughout the day, I’ll use some Tai Chi Qatar to help ease pain with the gently movements – the same with some Yoga Asana when not in spasm.

Can I ask; was your recovery faster with Yoga nd Tai Chi? I understand if you would prefer to PM instead of answering here more publicly.

Einstein was right! This Kiwi is forever getting her beak into curiosity, lol!
100x thank you for responding. I was not sure if I had overstepped my bounds. And I will answer you in the forum instead of PM because I think it is valuable to talk about openly and honestly.

I did not use either to heal myself. I was a very young woman with an 11 month old and a new born. I had to fight just to see a physical therapist. It was not until 15 years ago I found yoga and only 10 years ago I found Tai Chi. The biggest help for me was journey work, using the drums/rattles/didj to retrain my brain. I did specific journeys to 'visualize' both sides of my brain working together and to retrace what had been burnt out. I have made great progress, but I have been very discouraged in the last six to eight months. I am finding that my brain is back tracking somewhat and I don't know what to do. The medical profession has been fairly unhelpful. It has alarmed me, but not made me give up. If you just saw me you would never know I had a stroke. If you spoke to me briefly you would never know. If you meet me on a bad day, when I cannot get the thoughts out of my head and onto my tongue... you would wonder what the hell was wrong with me.

Iyengar yoga would be great for you, providing you are not in spasms. That I can fully understand. Yin practice is underrated. I find the meditative quality of yoga along with the breath to be one of the best places for me to go inside and be quiet. And to be present. Yoga/breath has given me the tools necessary for me to be present. I love that.

I have a hard time with sitting still meditation, but for different reasons than you. I have journeyed for so many years that I find the quietness to be opposite of what shamanic practice is. However, I have also found a high percentage of shamanic practitioners to also be bhuddist practioners. A point I have always found interesting.

Thank you again for being kind to me and my ignorance. You made me smile.
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100x thank you for responding. I was not sure if I had overstepped my bounds. And I will answer you in the forum instead of PM because I think it is valuable to talk about openly and honestly.

I did not use either to heal myself. I was a very young woman with an 11 month old and a new born. I had to fight just to see a physical therapist. It was not until 15 years ago I found yoga and only 10 years ago I found Tai Chi. The biggest help for me was journey work, using the drums/rattles/didj to retrain my brain. I did specific journeys to 'visualize' both sides of my brain working together and to retrace what had been burnt out. I have made great progress, but I have been very discouraged in the last six to eight months. I am finding that my brain is back tracking somewhat and I don't know what to do. The medical profession has been fairly unhelpful. It has alarmed me, but not made me give up. If you just saw me you would never know I had a stroke. If you spoke to me briefly you would never know. If you meet me on a bad day, when I cannot get the thoughts out of my head and onto my tongue... you would wonder what the hell was wrong with me.

Iyengar yoga would be great for you, providing you are not in spasms. That I can fully understand. Yin practice is underrated. I find the meditative quality of yoga along with the breath to be one of the best places for me to go inside and be quiet. And to be present. Yoga/breath has given me the tools necessary for me to be present. I love that.

I have a hard time with sitting still meditation, but for different reasons than you. I have journeyed for so many years that I find the quietness to be opposite of what shamanic practice is. However, I have also found a high percentage of shamanic practitioners to also be bhuddist practioners. A point I have always found interesting.

Thank you again for being kind to me and my ignorance. You made me smile.
You’re welcome! I couldn’t respond straight away as sitting for too long to use the laptop is painful – and my typing laying down is just completely pants! LOL!

Thank you for sharing openly about your experiences, it’s good to read and learn about another’s journey.

When I’m walking, I have a slight drag in my gait and a slightly raised hip – other than that there is no other obvious signs, unless I’m naked, lol! *Winks*

On occasion I do practice Yin Yoga, but, I have to be careful not to over do it, lol! I prefer the Asanas of Iyengar Yoga as some focus more on my Spine and Pelvic area and are deeper for Spinal relaxation – it’s a personal preference. People are amazed I can do the splits! Just don’t ask me to get up too quickly afterwards! LOL!

The Maori encourage an hour of sitting or walking quietly each day as a meditative practice – each tribe has a different approach. I just get so relaxed when sitting quietly to meditate that I fall asleep, lol!

Part of my movement meditations is down to me feeling a little ‘trapped’ by my physical limitations of some movements. I'm very aware of my 'feminine energy' below the waist and use my intuition a lot. Therefore, I feel my body (especially from the waist down), soul and mind needs to be active to prevent a stagnation of energy, among other things.

I was raised to be as independent as I can possibly be – I’m by no means competitive by nature, only that I refuse to be disabled when others have far more severe disabilities than myself and go on to lead fully active and independent lives.

Thank you, again for sharing your experiences.


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I am so delighted to see this thread start! I do alot of work with vibrations on a constant basis. I walk thru this world, feeling vibrations, almost like a bat does. I make no suggestion of this to the people around me,because frankly they would think my meds were off, lol. But I have done this since I was young.

I meditate using sound. Music can distract me. I just did one of the meditations offered here and enjoyed it. Very cleansing and awakening!

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I am so delighted to see this thread start! I do alot of work with vibrations on a constant basis. I walk thru this world, feeling vibrations, almost like a bat does. I make no suggestion of this to the people around me,because frankly they would think my meds were off, lol. But I have done this since I was young.

I meditate using sound. Music can distract me. I just did one of the meditations offered here and enjoyed it. Very cleansing and awakening!

Thanks for the thread, Ebon!
That's exactly why I started it. So we can talk about these things and not have anyone make you feel like you are crazy. Like minded folks! Thanks for joining us.
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You’re welcome! I couldn’t respond straight away as sitting for too long to use the laptop is painful – and my typing laying down is just completely pants! LOL!

Thank you for sharing openly about your experiences, it’s good to read and learn about another’s journey.

You are most welcome. And thank you for being gentle with me.


On occasion I do practice Yin Yoga, but, I have to be careful not to over do it, lol! I prefer the Asanas of Iyengar Yoga as some focus more on my Spine and Pelvic area and are deeper for Spinal relaxation – it’s a personal preference. People are amazed I can do the splits! Just don’t ask me to get up too quickly afterwards! LOL!

Brain fart... I got yin and Iyengar mixed up. Thank you for gently correcting me. (even if you weren't aware I was mistaken).

The Maori encourage an hour of sitting or walking quietly each day as a meditative practice – each tribe has a different approach. I just get so relaxed when sitting quietly to meditate that I fall asleep, lol!

Get that...totally. I like walking meditation. I also like to use my rattle when walking. I know this will sound..well however it sounds... but if I walk in the river valley (a block from my house) I use my rattle as a means of focus and meditation, and it keeps the "unwanteds" away from me. Cause when you walk carrying a rattle or singing (out loud) in a language that is not English, people tend to stay away from you. I believe I am then categorized as one of the "unwanteds". Makes me

Part of my movement meditations is down to me feeling a little ‘trapped’ by my physical limitations of some movements. I'm very aware of my 'feminine energy' below the waist and use my intuition a lot. Therefore, I feel my body (especially from the waist down), soul and mind needs to be active to prevent a stagnation of energy, among other things.



I was raised to be as independent as I can possibly be – I’m by no means competitive by nature, only that I refuse to be disabled when others have far more severe disabilities than myself and go on to lead fully active and independent lives.

Thank you, again for sharing your experiences.

Thanks for listening!!



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