WTF Humanity?

[Rook]

Yeah, this is news in Ohio....
I can understand their Rights within their Religion as Pacifists and keeping it amongst themselves, but within their own community, shouldn't they remind in *this* case a Commandment regarding Parents???
The Accused who started all this snapped at a reporter once, asking if cutting beards was a crime.....
Technically, in these related case....Yup....
Let's see, Assault, Trespassing, Breaking & Entering, Hate Crime laws.
If nothing else then at least Hate Crime...Must be good for somethin' in Ohio, after all in Ohio it doesn't cover LGBTQQA.....
Might as well help some other way since they won't "Shun"
New beard-cutting attack on Amish man in Ohio

[Julien]

Here's what I found this morning on MSNBC. Just read the first paragraph and it will make you angry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45267885...ew_york_times/

[Bard]

In many cases the Campus Police hands are tied by the upper administration and the fact that the "athletics" bring money into the university. I don't like it it pisses me off I have SEEN when a player was reported to have sexually assaulted a young lady and the campus police did due diligence and arrested the suspected player. Only to have the head coach come down on us for doing so and for interviewing HIS player...

[Dominique]

Of corse Bard, the football program, ahead of the safety of the student.

Just curious, Are you protected under the whistle blower act?

I realize that in itself is a double edged sword.

[Bard]

Originally Posted by Yellow band

Of corse Bard, the football program, ahead of the safety of the student.

Just curious, Are you protected under the whistle blower act?

I realize that in itself is a double edged sword.

not sure as a supervisor it is murky. But as a sworn law enforcement officer I have a duty and obligation to report. The Cleary Act is very specific and for good reason people are entrusting us with their most precious child. I look at it like this I have a daughter what if that victim was my child?

and it was not a football player it was Basketball. the head coach of football we have has stones and morals. He understands we have a job to do.

A cover up had to come in the other case at Penn from high up administration and the head of campus police with possible pressure from the head coach

[Dominique]

Thanks for coming back and answering Bard. Penn State has a history of covering up. Just a little snip of what I was talking about before.


Training Rules chronicles a lawsuit filed in 2006 by student athlete Jennifer Harris against Penn State University and women’s basketball head coach Rene Portland. During her 27 years of coaching, Portland enforced three strict rules: no drinking, no drugs and no lesbians. The documentary examines how a wealthy athletic department, enabled by the silence of a complacent university, allowed talented athletes, thought to be gay, to be dismissed from their college team.

Joe Paterno defended Portland to the end!

Joe Paterno describes the current *tragedy* at Penn State as “…one of the great sorrows of my life.”
He should add to that list the devastating harm he did in protecting women’s basketball coach Rene Portland while she blatantly discriminated against the women on her team who she presumed were lesbian. She was public about her practices until 1992 when Penn State included sexual orientation in their non-descrimination policy.
Apparently that didn’t stop Portland. In 2005 Jennifer Harris, a star player for the Lady Lions, was dismissed from the team. She charged Rene Portland, Tim Curley and Penn State with discrimination based on her perceived sexual orientation. Penn State tried to wiggle out of it saying that their non-discrimination policy was not a legal document. The case was settled in 2007. The film Training Rules depicts the 27 years that Portland was able to wreak havoc on the lives of so many of her players while Paterno and the university did absolutely nothing to stop her.

[LeftWriteFemme]

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...class_drug.php

Baylor's "Homosexuality as Gateway Drug" Class


​One thing about Baylor: It stands by its convictions, no matter how wacky.
Take, for instance, the class they offer called "Homosexuality as Gateway Drug." Some might find that hilariously offensive, or offensively hilarious, but Baylor knows it is a serious look at how homosexuality can lead to....heroin? Bestiality? We guess you'd have to take the class to find out.

Baylor, of course, had no problem with the course. And so when popular Web sites Buzzfeed and Reddit took note of the class, Baylor stood its ground. For about 24 hours.

Then it took the bold, decisive and principled move of renaming the class "Family Studies."

Meaning the family is a gateway drug?

We guess you'll have to take the class to find out.

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by Bard

In many cases the Campus Police hands are tied by the upper administration and the fact that the "athletics" bring money into the university. I don't like it it pisses me off I have SEEN when a player was reported to have sexually assaulted a young lady and the campus police did due diligence and arrested the suspected player. Only to have the head coach come down on us for doing so and for interviewing HIS player...

Even more reason why standards have to be met. In any cover-up, that is prove, there should be automatic stiff penalties- jobs loss and heavy fines.

[SoNotHer]

Actually, it makes me sick to my stomach.

"Penn State scandal shows how sex crimes on campus are covered up. 'There are a lot of very invidious ways that a school can go about squelching these reports. This is everyone's problem,' lawyer says

After the body of an Eastern Michigan University freshman was found in her dorm room in December 2006, naked from the waist down with a pillow over her head, the chief of the university police said there was “no reason to suspect foul play,” and let her parents believe she had died of natural causes.

That silence held for more than two months. In that time, the student who was eventually convicted in her murder had free run of a campus where he was previously caught climbing into a window of a university building...."

Originally Posted by Graphiteta2s

Here's what I found this morning on MSNBC. Just read the first paragraph and it will make you angry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45267885...ew_york_times/

[SoNotHer]

I am grateful to see this -

Thousands at Penn State honor alleged sex abuse victims



People gather in front of the Old Main building for a candlelight vigil on the Penn State campus Friday in State College, Pa. The vigil is being held in support of the alleged victims of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant football coach.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45260778.../#.TsM8ZPJjO2s

[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

I am grateful to see this -

Thousands at Penn State honor alleged sex abuse victims



People gather in front of the Old Main building for a candlelight vigil on the Penn State campus Friday in State College, Pa. The vigil is being held in support of the alleged victims of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant football coach.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45260778.../#.TsM8ZPJjO2s

Thank you for sharing this SNH! My heart aches for everyone hurt by that monster.

[SoNotHer]

Me too, Catalina Rose, and I am grateful to see the focus shift from Paterno and the Lions to the children who have been sexualized and victimized and whose lives will be forever changed.

Originally Posted by CatalinaRose

Thank you for sharing this SNH! My heart aches for everyone hurt by that monster.

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Me too, Catalina Rose, and I am grateful to see the focus shift from Paterno and the Lions to the children who have been sexualized and victimized and whose lives will be forever changed.

The vigil was immediate! (I posted that) however the media chose to ignore that and gave fuel to the students who were outside Paterno's house and then eventually rioting in the streets. Thats how sick our society is.

More SICK news to report. Paterno is going to collect half a million in retirement. Wait! How does that work....he was fired..... I'm not understand the boys club rules.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Actually, it makes me sick to my stomach.

"Penn State scandal shows how sex crimes on campus are covered up. 'There are a lot of very invidious ways that a school can go about squelching these reports. This is everyone's problem,' lawyer says

After the body of an Eastern Michigan University freshman was found in her dorm room in December 2006, naked from the waist down with a pillow over her head, the chief of the university police said there was “no reason to suspect foul play,” and let her parents believe she had died of natural causes.

That silence held for more than two months. In that time, the student who was eventually convicted in her murder had free run of a campus where he was previously caught climbing into a window of a university building...."

There are cover-ups all over our college and university scandals including a hell of a lot concerning rape of female students. My hope is that this blows apart a hell of a lot of administrations across the US including what is going on outside of athletics.

I think the Penn State students at large are doing a good job in getting sentiments out about what has happened to the victims and their families. And Penn has always been up there in terms of several academic programs it has. I also don't negatively judge the students in athletics around this.

[SoNotHer]

Wouldn't it though. I would love for the culture that breeds this to change.

Originally Posted by AtLast

There are cover-ups all over our college and university scandals including a hell of a lot concerning rape of female students. My hope is that this blows apart a hell of a lot of administrations across the US including what is going on outside of athletics.

I think the Penn State students at large are doing a good job in getting sentiments out about what has happened to the victims and their families. And Penn has always been up there in terms of several academic programs it has. I also don't negatively judge the students in athletics around this.