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Old 01-06-2012, 06:07 PM   #1
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Every candidate’s economic position at its root is going to be the same.
Yes, I think that is true of all of the Repub candidates. I don't think that is true of Obama. I say that based on his history, legislatively, & personally. At least I've never seen any hard evidence of that being true of him over the 10 yrs. I've been paying attention to him, ever since he gave his speech against the war in Iraq at an anti-war rally in Chicago on 10/2/02. He was a State Senator at the time. More about Obama's political positions here.

This is not to say that I agree with all that Obama has done, however. It is merely to point out that he is not like any of the Rebup candidates. Some on the Left disagree strongly with Obama. It is my observation that they don't get it about Progressivism in general & that they didn't pay adequate attention to Obama being a rather centrist Progressive on economic & foreign policy issues. Yet he made no secret of his views for they permeated every interview, speech he gave & book that he wrote. Since he has become President it has become searingly clear that he has been forced into some actions as the result of complete obstructiveness by the Repubs in the House & Senate. That several Blue Dog Dems have joined in that obstructiveness is disgusting in my view.

Truman was the President when I was born. Eisenhower became President when I was very young. I started paying attention to presidential politics with Kennedy's campaign. The culture wars on a national level began under Reagan, though they'd begun in California when he was Governor there. What we are seeing today is an uber extreme version of what was begun back then. Including runaway Capitalism with a capital C.

BTW an excellent book about Capitalism via US companies & others & the effect on other nations is "World On Fire: How Exporting Free Market Democracy Breeds Ethnic Hatred and Global Instability", by Amy Chua.
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Yes, I think that is true of all of the Repub candidates. I don't think that is true of Obama.
I'm not sure what to say about Obama. I voted for him in 2008 and I'll probably vote for him in 2012. Economically speaking though he differs little. He has protected the financial sector and he has plenty of Wall St. people advising him.

He talks a good game but if you see the bills that have been passed into law during his administration, I think you will find he took care of who he needed to take care of to stay alive in politics in America.
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I'm not sure what to say about Obama. I voted for him in 2008 and I'll probably vote for him in 2012. Economically speaking though he differs little. He has protected the financial sector and he has plenty of Wall St. people advising him.

He talks a good game but if you see the bills that have been passed into law during his administration, I think you will find he took care of who he needed to take care of to stay alive in politics in America.

I have mixed emotions about Obama as well. I think his heart is in the right place.

I suspect his campaign was financed by some pretty powerful people and those are the people affecting what he can and cannot do. My gut tells me Obama may have thought he would have more control/independence than he or maybe any other recent President has had.

Take a look at Obama's cabinet members/key government appointees and see how many of them were Goldman Sachs executives just before and during the banking meltdown and the bailout. Take a look at the sweet deal Goldman Sachs received in the bailout at the expense of other banks.

The major Wall Street firms contributed a little over 15 million to Obama's 2008 campaign. The bailout cost the taxpayers 700 BILLION. Thats a pretty hefty return on an investment eh? Wish my savings had that rate of return.

Thinks thats bad? According to a team at Bloomberg News, at one point in 2009 the U.S. had lent, spent or guaranteed as much as $12.8 trillion to rescue the economy. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know...-bailout/3309/

Just boggles my tired old brain.

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