Small Plane Crashes in Austin Tx

[Greyson]

I have mixed feelings regarding the concerns of posting the manifesto of Richard Andrew Stack. I suspect there is a file on many of us here somewhere in the Belly of the Beast, aka Government.

Are you are a person that may have participated in "radical social change" in the past 30 years or so? I bet your name can be found somewhere and you are held suspect. Did you ever attend a peaceful meeting about anything do with the human rights of being LGBTQI?

I am not an anarchist but I do not delude myself in believing if we play by the rules the FBI or any other government entity will not view me or others like me with a modicum of distrust and suspicion. Why? Because we dare to live differently and not hang our heads in shame about it.

I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Greyson

I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.

Actually, that's normal. It's considered evidence in an ongoing investigation. Until the investigation is closed and everything verified, they will likely clamp down on publication of stuff (it also is for protection of his family as well).

[Greyson]

Originally Posted by Linus

Actually, that's normal. It's considered evidence in an ongoing investigation. Until the investigation is closed and everything verified, they will likely clamp down on publication of stuff (it also is for protection of his family as well).

Linus, yes, it is considered to be "normal" procedure but I do not believe that every action an entity of authority takes is necessary. Please do not take my post as a offense about you or your analysis. I have a great deal of respect for your ability.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Greyson

Linus, yes, it is considered to be "normal" procedure but I do not believe that every action an entity of authority takes is necessary. Please do not take my post as a offense about you or your analysis. I have a great deal of respect for your ability.

Oh no. I wouldn't take offense to a valid opinion or point of view. It is valid. When one looks at it, he's dead. It's not like they can prosecute him and there's nothing -- really -- in the note that might potentially do something bad or harm.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Greyson

I have mixed feelings regarding the concerns of posting the manifesto of Richard Andrew Stack. I suspect there is a file on many of us here somewhere in the Belly of the Beast, aka Government.

Are you are a person that may have participated in "radical social change" in the past 30 years or so? I bet your name can be found somewhere and you are held suspect. Did you ever attend a peaceful meeting about anything do with the human rights of being LGBTQI?

I am not an anarchist but I do not delude myself in believing if we play by the rules the FBI or any other government entity will not view me or others like me with a modicum of distrust and suspicion. Why? Because we dare to live differently and not hang our heads in shame about it.

I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.

Reminds me of knowing I have more than one FBI file.... The third was started due to my seeing a woman divorcing a man that was being considered for a Special Agent post! I wondered who the hell those people lurking around were..... The second was after being arrested in an anti-Vietnam War protest. The first was for attendance at a Chavez rally. LOL.. what is really funny is that I got to read the files because of my partner's husband getting that FBI job!!!


Yup, one can end up having a file in quite a few instances. No, I don't condone this man's actions at all.

Remember Tricky Dicky?

[~Bo]

Diva...........was this anywhere near your place?

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

Diva...........was this anywhere near your place?

Bo, it's about 15 miles or so north of Diva's

[blush]

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/l...he-plane-crash

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/t...t-the-building

[I'mOneToo]

If this was so easy, for a private pilot to do something like this, how long will it be before a real terrorist cell figures that out? It's like we give them a road map.

CNN has just reported that it's being termed an "act of rage" and not terrorism. Not sure if that is true or not, just that they have said it now. Also, that they have found a body inside the building. It's not clear to me if they have finished going through the building. So many people in there, and while work hours were in the full throes. Hope there are no more found inside.

[Goofy]

They haven't finished going through the building. The area around the impact site is unstable according to the local news about 15 minutes ago.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Goofy

Bo, it's about 15 miles or so north of Diva's

Thanks, bro. Man....this bullshit is getting a lil too close.

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

Thanks, bro. Man....this bullshit is getting a lil too close.

Tell me about it...

[socialjustice_fsu]

Has anyone heard from "WickedPassion" (Mitch)...the last I heard hy was still in Austin and was a fire-fighter, EMT?? I don't think he has jumped over to the BFP yet. Probably still looking for a woman that's not bat-shit crazy. I know he is a first responder.
If anyone hears from hym...would you post it please?
And, yes ~Bo, this bullshit is getting way too close.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Diva

I'm watching the news right now.....

Fire is still going on.
The guy they think did this had a beef with the IRS (and they are housed in this building; and have approx 199 employees).
Also, earlier today, neighbors rescued this guy's wife and daughter from their burning house.

Last night, Mr. Steck evidently went balistic because he was having severe IRS issues, and Mrs. Steck took the daughter to a hotel, came back this morning and then the house caught fire.

Mr. Steck is the registered owner of the plane which crashed into the bldg, according to the FAA.

The IRS offices in question are the ones someone might visit when one is trying to work out tax problems with the IRS.

Plane was ~ according to witnesses ~ going full throttle when it hit the bldg. with about 92 gallons of fuel on board, hence the fireball.

There are 2 in the bldg taken to hospitals and 1 unaccounted for, which is a wonderment to me that there aren't MORE as it was at the beginning of the work day when the building would have been heavily occupied.

That's all I have for now.....

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

It is my understanding that he burned down his own home before heading to the airport. Probably had a tax lien on it. What a tragedy.

So....and please forgive me as I have not read every link about this...so, what I am hearing is that a man has an issue with taxes, the IRS, etc and he decides he's going to do something about it. He's going to set his home on fire and go slam himself and his small engine plane into the IRS building, hoping to hurt the IRS like he feels like he's been hurt. And he does. He sets his home on fire, with his WIFE and DAUGHTER inside???? Did he not know they were there? Please tell me that I am misinterpreting the situation.