It Hurts Me.

macele · 04-25-2012, 05:30 AM

i'm sure it can work both ways. a butch can be offensive with words, and a femme can also. a femme can ask a butch do something that has been generated from the hetero female brain.

if i seem defensive, maybe i am a little lol.

i just don't think this is a butch problem. but rather a person problem. and i personally am not fond of looking to other people to guide me/correct me in regards to behaviour. if i am in need of someone to tell me how to act, i have person problem issues lol.

all is understood that it is needed to tell someone if they say things that are offensive. indeed. and that's what makes a good topic, ... learning.

The_Lady_Snow · 04-25-2012, 05:48 AM

Female bodied does NOT equate to "Lady" don't matter if you're in Mississippi or New York its NOT ok to impose sugary words on them (female bodied folk)

Not everyone is a:

"little lady"

"missy"

"sweetie"

"honey pie"

Familiars are not something that we should have to endure to be seen "as proper folk"

This isn't the 1800's

Scuba · 04-25-2012, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Female bodied does NOT equate to "Lady" don't matter if you're in Mississippi or New York its NOT ok to impose sugary words on them (female bodied folk)

Not everyone is a:

"little lady"

"missy"

"sweetie"

"honey pie"

Familiars are not something that we should have to endure to be seen "as proper folk"

This isn't the 1800's

Agree...

...so are saying it's not proper to pick someone up for a date on a horse? I may take issue with this. She gets good gas mileage...

Apocalipstic · 04-25-2012, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba

Agree...

...so are saying it's not proper to pick someone up for a date on a horse? I may take issue with this. She gets good gas mileage...

Maybe make sure date is not allergic to said horse.

Apocalipstic · 04-25-2012, 08:12 AM

I see I've been quoted, I am busy as heck at work but will be back in as soon as I get some stuff done.

Loving the discussion!

Desd, different!!! lol. Very very very different.

thedivahrrrself · 04-25-2012, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macele

i'm sure it can work both ways. a butch can be offensive with words, and a femme can also. a femme can ask a butch do something that has been generated from the hetero female brain.

if i seem defensive, maybe i am a little lol.

i just don't think this is a butch problem. but rather a person problem. and i personally am not fond of looking to other people to guide me/correct me in regards to behaviour. if i am in need of someone to tell me how to act, i have person problem issues lol.

all is understood that it is needed to tell someone if they say things that are offensive. indeed. and that's what makes a good topic, ... learning.

And you're right as well. I've been asked more times by straight males to use my cleavage to get something than by butches. But you know who the worst culprits are? Straight women. They are often oblivious to their own oppression....

The_Lady_Snow · 04-25-2012, 09:29 AM

I'm curious where in this thread has ANYONE "bashed" manners?

I'm going to re read it again to find where people participating have done this...

ETA- consentual familiars are simply that. Consentual, "I" was referring to those who don't have that clear consent that do impose familiars on female bodied folk (figured I needed to clarify)

macele · 04-25-2012, 10:01 AM

i used to dislike words such as honey, baby, sweetie, ect. ... even from someone that i knew intimately. but as i've gotten older, i deal with it differently. those who have formed a habit, say with the word honey, and it seems to come with every other sentence spoken, ... that's a dislike for me. and some people think the word baby will get them something they want. i've never gave more if the word baby was thrown in (well not exactly true lol). but i like to feel that comfort from someone that seems to genuinely use words to love. if a child needs attention, and a woman says, "aww sweetie, i'm sorry.", ... and she seems to genuinely care, ... i like that. i loved it as a child when momma would say bless your heart, because i knew she meant it. it wasn't said for no reason. i catch myself saying some of these words, but i say them to share comfort/understanding. i would not say if i didn't mean it. and i don't say to just anyone. i do say, but rare.

04-25-2012, 05:48 AM	#2
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,079 Times in 15,669 Posts Rep Power: 21474875	Guess depends who ya ask Female bodied does NOT equate to "Lady" don't matter if you're in Mississippi or New York its NOT ok to impose sugary words on them (female bodied folk) Not everyone is a: "little lady" "missy" "sweetie" "honey pie" Familiars are not something that we should have to endure to be seen "as proper folk" This isn't the 1800's __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

04-25-2012, 08:12 AM	#5
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,358 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	I see I've been quoted, I am busy as heck at work but will be back in as soon as I get some stuff done. Loving the discussion! Desd, different!!! lol. Very very very different. __________________

04-25-2012, 09:29 AM	#7
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,079 Times in 15,669 Posts Rep Power: 21474875	Re reading thread I'm curious where in this thread has ANYONE "bashed" manners? I'm going to re read it again to find where people participating have done this... ETA- consentual familiars are simply that. Consentual, "I" was referring to those who don't have that clear consent that do impose familiars on female bodied folk (figured I needed to clarify) __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden Last edited by The_Lady_Snow; 04-25-2012 at 09:34 AM.

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04-25-2012, 05:30 AM	#1
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	i'm sure it can work both ways. a butch can be offensive with words, and a femme can also. a femme can ask a butch do something that has been generated from the hetero female brain. if i seem defensive, maybe i am a little lol. i just don't think this is a butch problem. but rather a person problem. and i personally am not fond of looking to other people to guide me/correct me in regards to behaviour. if i am in need of someone to tell me how to act, i have person problem issues lol. all is understood that it is needed to tell someone if they say things that are offensive. indeed. and that's what makes a good topic, ... learning.

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macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	i used to dislike words such as honey, baby, sweetie, ect. ... even from someone that i knew intimately. but as i've gotten older, i deal with it differently. those who have formed a habit, say with the word honey, and it seems to come with every other sentence spoken, ... that's a dislike for me. and some people think the word baby will get them something they want. i've never gave more if the word baby was thrown in (well not exactly true lol). but i like to feel that comfort from someone that seems to genuinely use words to love. if a child needs attention, and a woman says, "aww sweetie, i'm sorry.", ... and she seems to genuinely care, ... i like that. i loved it as a child when momma would say bless your heart, because i knew she meant it. it wasn't said for no reason. i catch myself saying some of these words, but i say them to share comfort/understanding. i would not say if i didn't mean it. and i don't say to just anyone. i do say, but rare.