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WolfyOne · 06-04-2012, 02:41 PM

Rockinonahigh · 06-04-2012, 03:12 PM

One of the biggest problems I face is vertago and ringing in my ears.At times the noise in my ears is anything from a bird chirp or squeek to a blasting fog horn..bird chirps drive me nuts after a while so you can bet the radio is on loud to drown it out,when the fog horn type noise happends it can be really painful.There is the veratgo thats can be just a slight dizzy floating to down right drunken falling down with neasua,I take antivert for it so most of the time it dose ok.How I rode horses plus did the things i've done over the years is a wonder to plane old stuborness.Not to say I did fall of a lot of times cause I did,but over time I got better at not falling off.I find the more active I am the better it is so I still do a lot of active things,once the doc said I had calcium deposits floating in my ear that causes this..whatever I wish it would go away when it hits.

Viola · 06-05-2012, 04:18 PM

Hello Rockinonahigh,

Me too., vertigo and ringing in my ears., high pitch ringing, however if ever low pitch I need to be careful as soon I'll pass out.

However I've learn how not to pass out if low ringing happens;

do you ever crave to rock when lying down, I crave to rock when lying down.

I've had this yes, dizzy floating and feel like drunk with neasua...

I'm not sure if this is relation with ears, but I can't tell my rights side of body to left... I can't tell what is my right hand or left hand...

I use touch to tell me what is right and what is left.

Example I touch from index finger down to the thumb to understand that's my left hand. And I make a "R" letter (sign la) with my right hand to know that's my right hand.

Do you go through this, can't tell your right from your left?

I've ridden horses too in my younger years:

I've learn to live with floating -- I think what it is, if I can describe it feels like no compass in my body. When the nausea and or low ringing happens I know I'll pass out soon and I know I need to remain very still and if possible even lower my head where I'm upside down like...

Now not sure how much this has to relate with ears, but having blood flow to my head helps in this situation...

You see I have a lot to learn yet, but thinking of it, how the ears are, isn't just reaction of audio but also of air pressures, oh this reminds me, every time I swallow my ears pop...

Does your ears do this every time you swallow your ears pop?

Some things I'm so use to that I don't pay attention;

I can so much relate with you I really can...

I can go on I really can - sharing how my ears has made it a very challenging to be here on earth, making earth very uncomfortable and a challenge.

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

One of the biggest problems I face is vertago and ringing in my ears.At times the noise in my ears is anything from a bird chirp or squeek to a blasting fog horn..bird chirps drive me nuts after a while so you can bet the radio is on loud to drown it out,when the fog horn type noise happends it can be really painful.There is the veratgo thats can be just a slight dizzy floating to down right drunken falling down with neasua,I take antivert for it so most of the time it dose ok.How I rode horses plus did the things i've done over the years is a wonder to plane old stuborness.Not to say I did fall of a lot of times cause I did,but over time I got better at not falling off.I find the more active I am the better it is so I still do a lot of active things,once the doc said I had calcium deposits floating in my ear that causes this..whatever I wish it would go away when it hits.

Viola · 06-05-2012, 04:23 PM

Wow your amazing: Amazing how you did this. like magic, I'll so know how... yes, I will learn how, how did you do this?...

Cause so much I want to share through video yes...

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Originally Posted by WolfyOne

Viola · 06-05-2012, 05:17 PM

Wolfyone how do you do this, i'm trying so many ways, how do you do it; please give me instructions please...

I don't know how to do this, I've tried about 15 different ways, how do you do it

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youtube/XVqzAg4QEdY

http://youtu.be/XVqzAg4QEdY

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http://youtu.be/XVqzAg4QEdY

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVqzAg4QEdY

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVqzAg4QEdY

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[YOUTUBE]v=XVqzAg4QEdY[YOUTUBE]

Viola · 06-05-2012, 06:48 PM

Wolfyone how? how do you do it...

I"m still figure how to do this., able to put a video here for you all to watch; I'm brain storming quite a bit;

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVqzA...feature=relmfu

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Viola · 06-07-2012, 12:27 PM

http://www.chuckbairdart.com/index.html

some of his art is below...

maybe you might find this interesting... Deaf artists and heres... Chuck Baird

Here's about Chuck...

In 1947, as a baby boomer, he was born with moderate deaf, grown up as culturally deaf while attended the deaf residential school in Kansas. He went to study both at Gallaudet College and National Technical Institute for the Deaf (NTID). After received his BFA in Rochester Institute of Technology 1974, he spent 5 summers at the National Theatre of the Deaf (NTD) painting their sets. During these years, he held a variety of jobs developing his art in upstate New York and Delaware before he joined Spectrum, the deaf art colony Texas. In 1980, he joined the NTD for the next 10 years as an actor and did some set designs. For the more artistic opportunities, he left the NTD to live nomadically in California and Arizona. He has performed at some Equity theaters. He also worked for DawnSignPress as an in-house artist, and painted a number of first deaf-related works, culminating in the coffee table book. He went back to Kansas City and moved again to Tucson setting up his own painting studios. During time, he has often traveled to paint murals or lead art workshops for deaf children at schools, summer camps, and at art festivals. He had his works known for the genre called Deaf View Image Art (De’VIA) in numerous art exhibits here and oversea over last 12 years. He was summoned to Gallaudet to help coordinating the visual arts exhibitions for Deaf Way II in 2002 and went back there again teaching art for one semester. He now resides in Austin, Texas continued creating arts at his studio and aboard. He has established the visual art foundation in his name for promoting emerging deaf artists. Please go to www.chuckbairdfoundation.org.

http://www.chuckbairdart.com/index.html

DamonK · 06-07-2012, 03:56 PM

I looked at the link above me.

Watched the video.

Googled it.

Here is the difference:

The Esteem® is fully implantable. The Esteem® is the only fully implantable device for the alleviation of sensorineural hearing loss that does not use a microphone, giving its recipients invisible hearing.

AND

A cochlear implant is an inner ear implant and the Esteem® is a middle ear implant. They address different degrees of hearing loss. A cochlear implant is for the profoundly deaf (greater than 90+ dB of loss). The Esteem® is indicated for moderate to severe hearing loss (40dB to 90dB).

However,

Esteem®’s maintenance-free battery lasts 4.5 to 9 years, depending on use. Once it is depleted, the battery is replaced in a minor outpatient surgical operation. Changing batteries every two weeks and laborious charging are things of the past.

And it costs $30,000. And that minor outpatient... Not quite sure on how much that.

Now, my BTE isn't cheap. I paid $2500 for it. The one I need now is $3500. I'm aware NONE of this is cheap. The above site mentions that battery changes are every couple of days for BTEs, etc. Those must be some crappy batteries in my opinion. I just bought 2 double pack of 12s I think. I can expect ONE pack to last at least a month. Usually longer. My hearing aid...I've had this one since 2004. Before that, there were 2 others. So 3 in 30 years!

Batteries cost a shitload. Maintenance can cost a shitload. Take care of 'em. You won't need it so much.

Ain't worth it to me.

http://www.envoymedical.com/cost-of-the-esteem
http://www.envoymedical.com/get-informed

Viola · 06-07-2012, 04:26 PM

Oh now I understand more - thank you for looking this up...

Batteries are expensive, not sure much but I wonder if batteries will be covered under this obama care, even though I'm not fully agreeing with obama care cause I've heard night mares that has happen in other countries with health care like long waits,

will the batteries be cover under the obama care? what are your thoughts about this.

so then cochlear is for further deaf 90 db and more., now I understand, I guess I could had look it up not sure why I just rush and put it here.

how come the insurance now doesn't cover batteries for?

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Originally Posted by DamonK

I looked at the link above me.

Watched the video.

Googled it.

Here is the difference:

The Esteem® is fully implantable. The Esteem® is the only fully implantable device for the alleviation of sensorineural hearing loss that does not use a microphone, giving its recipients invisible hearing.

AND

A cochlear implant is an inner ear implant and the Esteem® is a middle ear implant. They address different degrees of hearing loss. A cochlear implant is for the profoundly deaf (greater than 90+ dB of loss). The Esteem® is indicated for moderate to severe hearing loss (40dB to 90dB).

However,

Esteem®’s maintenance-free battery lasts 4.5 to 9 years, depending on use. Once it is depleted, the battery is replaced in a minor outpatient surgical operation. Changing batteries every two weeks and laborious charging are things of the past.

And it costs $30,000. And that minor outpatient... Not quite sure on how much that.

Now, my BTE isn't cheap. I paid $2500 for it. The one I need now is $3500. I'm aware NONE of this is cheap. The above site mentions that battery changes are every couple of days for BTEs, etc. Those must be some crappy batteries in my opinion. I just bought 2 double pack of 12s I think. I can expect ONE pack to last at least a month. Usually longer. My hearing aid...I've had this one since 2004. Before that, there were 2 others. So 3 in 30 years!

Batteries cost a shitload. Maintenance can cost a shitload. Take care of 'em. You won't need it so much.

Ain't worth it to me.

http://www.envoymedical.com/cost-of-the-esteem
http://www.envoymedical.com/get-informed

DamonK · 06-07-2012, 04:57 PM

When I worked for the state of Texas, their insurance paid $500 towards hearing aids. $500! What if I'd bought 2? Still just $500. And I'd have all the paperwork, etc.

I buy mine out of pocket. I buy my batteries out of pocket. I really don't care if any insurance covers my batteries because I'm not going to keep receipts, etc for a year to give to the insurance company so they can argue with me.

I can expect 1 battery to last... usually 2-3 weeks, but for simplicity, let's say a week.

An 8 pack usually costs about $8. So, let's say $1 a battery.

I'm gonna pay about $52 a year on batteries.
I'm gonna pay XXXX amount every few years on maintenance.

Let's assume the average person gets a BTE (since those are my "specialty") every 10 years at $5000. That person starts at 5 years old, and ends at 90.

That estimate is based off MY personal situation.

So, 90/10=9. 9x5000=45000
52x90=4680

***This is an extreme overestimate***

It's not cheap. It's going to get more expensive.

I get to pay for ALL this, maintenance, insurance to cover aforementioned hearing aid.

Surgery = cheaper in long run. But, you don't know it will work. And there aren't any "take backs" once you have the surgery. If they're wrong, they're wrong.

A couple of years ago, I got a nasty ear infection. I can't do any of this simply. I don't get to go to general doctors. I get to go to specialists. So, I'm at the ENT's office and this nice PA is trying to convince me to let the ENT repair the hole in my ear drum.

Me: Why?
PA: It can be fixed.
Me: They said that before. And every time it busted again.
PA: You might could hear.
Me: I don't feel good. Let's talk about it next time with the ENT.
PA: Ok.

Understand I basically got a suction device stuck in my ear and sucked the infection out. It's not pleasant and many times quite painful.

I set up the next ENT appointment to coincide with my mom's visit. You know, she knows my entire history by heart. I'm not gonna remember all that stuff.

ENT: I think with repairing the ear drum and a BTE, you could hear.
Me: Really, now?
ENT: Yes.
Me: What are my chances?
ENT: What do you mean?
Me: If I let you do this, what are my chances of being able to hear? What are the chances of the ear drum blowing again?
ENT: I can't answer if it will bust again.
Me: What about the hearing?
ENT: With training, maybe a 70% chance.

Now, I'm gonna be 30 next month. I've only had one ear for 20 years.

I'm also a CNA. That means intense physical work. After surgery, about 2-3 hours, I would be on a 10 lb restriction for 6-8 weeks.

Then, I'd get to buy another BTE.

For a maybe....a BIG maybe.

Sometimes, the chance to hear, isn't worth the price you end up paying.

06-04-2012, 02:41 PM	#1
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06-07-2012, 12:27 PM	#7
Viola Timed Out How Do You Identify?: AKA - Una (troll) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area/Comcast Posts: 51 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 81 Thanked 128 Times in 38 Posts Rep Power: 0	Deaf artist Chuck Baird http://www.chuckbairdart.com/index.html some of his art is below... maybe you might find this interesting... Deaf artists and heres... Chuck Baird Here's about Chuck... In 1947, as a baby boomer, he was born with moderate deaf, grown up as culturally deaf while attended the deaf residential school in Kansas. He went to study both at Gallaudet College and National Technical Institute for the Deaf (NTID). After received his BFA in Rochester Institute of Technology 1974, he spent 5 summers at the National Theatre of the Deaf (NTD) painting their sets. During these years, he held a variety of jobs developing his art in upstate New York and Delaware before he joined Spectrum, the deaf art colony Texas. In 1980, he joined the NTD for the next 10 years as an actor and did some set designs. For the more artistic opportunities, he left the NTD to live nomadically in California and Arizona. He has performed at some Equity theaters. He also worked for DawnSignPress as an in-house artist, and painted a number of first deaf-related works, culminating in the coffee table book. He went back to Kansas City and moved again to Tucson setting up his own painting studios. During time, he has often traveled to paint murals or lead art workshops for deaf children at schools, summer camps, and at art festivals. He had his works known for the genre called Deaf View Image Art (De’VIA) in numerous art exhibits here and oversea over last 12 years. He was summoned to Gallaudet to help coordinating the visual arts exhibitions for Deaf Way II in 2002 and went back there again teaching art for one semester. He now resides in Austin, Texas continued creating arts at his studio and aboard. He has established the visual art foundation in his name for promoting emerging deaf artists. Please go to www.chuckbairdfoundation.org. http://www.chuckbairdart.com/index.html Last edited by Viola; 06-07-2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason: learning how

06-07-2012, 03:56 PM	#8
DamonK Senior Member How Do You Identify?: . Preferred Pronoun?: . Relationship Status: . Join Date: May 2010 Location: . Posts: 2,199 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,527 Thanked 7,762 Times in 1,881 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I looked at the link above me. Watched the video. Googled it. Here is the difference: The Esteem® is fully implantable. The Esteem® is the only fully implantable device for the alleviation of sensorineural hearing loss that does not use a microphone, giving its recipients invisible hearing. AND A cochlear implant is an inner ear implant and the Esteem® is a middle ear implant. They address different degrees of hearing loss. A cochlear implant is for the profoundly deaf (greater than 90+ dB of loss). The Esteem® is indicated for moderate to severe hearing loss (40dB to 90dB). However, Esteem®’s maintenance-free battery lasts 4.5 to 9 years, depending on use. Once it is depleted, the battery is replaced in a minor outpatient surgical operation. Changing batteries every two weeks and laborious charging are things of the past. And it costs $30,000. And that minor outpatient... Not quite sure on how much that. Now, my BTE isn't cheap. I paid $2500 for it. The one I need now is $3500. I'm aware NONE of this is cheap. The above site mentions that battery changes are every couple of days for BTEs, etc. Those must be some crappy batteries in my opinion. I just bought 2 double pack of 12s I think. I can expect ONE pack to last at least a month. Usually longer. My hearing aid...I've had this one since 2004. Before that, there were 2 others. So 3 in 30 years! Batteries cost a shitload. Maintenance can cost a shitload. Take care of 'em. You won't need it so much. Ain't worth it to me. http://www.envoymedical.com/cost-of-the-esteem http://www.envoymedical.com/get-informed Last edited by DamonK; 06-07-2012 at 03:58 PM. Reason: forgot specific links I used

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06-04-2012, 03:12 PM	#2
Rockinonahigh Senior Member How Do You Identify?: stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: makes no diffrence,I know who I am. Relationship Status: single,maybe looking if the right person comes along. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 4,907 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,682 Thanked 14,933 Times in 3,938 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	One of the biggest problems I face is vertago and ringing in my ears.At times the noise in my ears is anything from a bird chirp or squeek to a blasting fog horn..bird chirps drive me nuts after a while so you can bet the radio is on loud to drown it out,when the fog horn type noise happends it can be really painful.There is the veratgo thats can be just a slight dizzy floating to down right drunken falling down with neasua,I take antivert for it so most of the time it dose ok.How I rode horses plus did the things i've done over the years is a wonder to plane old stuborness.Not to say I did fall of a lot of times cause I did,but over time I got better at not falling off.I find the more active I am the better it is so I still do a lot of active things,once the doc said I had calcium deposits floating in my ear that causes this..whatever I wish it would go away when it hits.

06-07-2012, 04:57 PM	#10
DamonK Senior Member How Do You Identify?: . Preferred Pronoun?: . Relationship Status: . Join Date: May 2010 Location: . Posts: 2,199 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,527 Thanked 7,762 Times in 1,881 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	When I worked for the state of Texas, their insurance paid $500 towards hearing aids. $500! What if I'd bought 2? Still just $500. And I'd have all the paperwork, etc. I buy mine out of pocket. I buy my batteries out of pocket. I really don't care if any insurance covers my batteries because I'm not going to keep receipts, etc for a year to give to the insurance company so they can argue with me. I can expect 1 battery to last... usually 2-3 weeks, but for simplicity, let's say a week. An 8 pack usually costs about $8. So, let's say $1 a battery. I'm gonna pay about $52 a year on batteries. I'm gonna pay XXXX amount every few years on maintenance. Let's assume the average person gets a BTE (since those are my "specialty") every 10 years at $5000. That person starts at 5 years old, and ends at 90. That estimate is based off MY personal situation. So, 90/10=9. 9x5000=45000 52x90=4680 *This is an extreme overestimate* It's not cheap. It's going to get more expensive. I get to pay for ALL this, maintenance, insurance to cover aforementioned hearing aid. Surgery = cheaper in long run. But, you don't know it will work. And there aren't any "take backs" once you have the surgery. If they're wrong, they're wrong. A couple of years ago, I got a nasty ear infection. I can't do any of this simply. I don't get to go to general doctors. I get to go to specialists. So, I'm at the ENT's office and this nice PA is trying to convince me to let the ENT repair the hole in my ear drum. Me: Why? PA: It can be fixed. Me: They said that before. And every time it busted again. PA: You might could hear. Me: I don't feel good. Let's talk about it next time with the ENT. PA: Ok. Understand I basically got a suction device stuck in my ear and sucked the infection out. It's not pleasant and many times quite painful. I set up the next ENT appointment to coincide with my mom's visit. You know, she knows my entire history by heart. I'm not gonna remember all that stuff. ENT: I think with repairing the ear drum and a BTE, you could hear. Me: Really, now? ENT: Yes. Me: What are my chances? ENT: What do you mean? Me: If I let you do this, what are my chances of being able to hear? What are the chances of the ear drum blowing again? ENT: I can't answer if it will bust again. Me: What about the hearing? ENT: With training, maybe a 70% chance. Now, I'm gonna be 30 next month. I've only had one ear for 20 years. I'm also a CNA. That means intense physical work. After surgery, about 2-3 hours, I would be on a 10 lb restriction for 6-8 weeks. Then, I'd get to buy another BTE. For a maybe....a BIG maybe. Sometimes, the chance to hear, isn't worth the price you end up paying.