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Old 07-25-2012, 11:45 AM   #1
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http://www.advocate.com/crime/2012/0...ng-another-man -- he will likely need our support. Let's keep our eyes out for him when he needs help.
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First time I actually hear about an incarcerated transguy being talked about in the news. Its good that this is getting news time, at least. Thinking of what a friend of mine went through at the hands of authorities and inmates when he was incarcerated, I wish Jayce a heck of a lot of good luck with this and hope that he gets out of this relatively unscathed.

Hopefully now that this is a news issue/in the public eye, they'll be a little more humane towards him. Prison is not a friendly place for transmen (or trans people in general) and its so rarely talked about (and not because it doesn't happen frequently. It does.). Good luck, dude, and hopefully they recognise this as self-defense...
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He has bonded out on a $150,000 bond and will have a preliminary hearing for a charge of aggravated battery on Aug. 6.

The police of course, felt it necessary to release his original birth name!
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Very disturbing really.
A different case and good article.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...e-crime-murder
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The police of course, felt it necessary to release his original birth name!
Thanks for the article. In it's defense the article gave the man's birth name (female) and then said, "Friends say the 27 year old is now a man and goes by the name Jayce...". I think it is possible, if not probable, that the suspect did not legally change his name yet. I also noticed that the article refrained from using any pronouns throughout. I am wondering if this is an attempt to be tolerant?
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Thanks for the article. In it's defense the article gave the man's birth name (female) and then said, "Friends say the 27 year old is now a man and goes by the name Jayce...". I think it is possible, if not probable, that the suspect did not legally change his name yet. I also noticed that the article refrained from using any pronouns throughout. I am wondering if this is an attempt to be tolerant?
Hey Dapper,

Yes I agree, perhaps it is as you say. I still feel that it was not okay to publicly release the birth name. This is likely just a personal issue that I have about outing people. Many transguys do not want others to know their birth name or that sort of personal info, and I think it just struck a cord with me is all.

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Yes I agree, perhaps it is as you say. I still feel that it was not okay to publicly release the birth name. This is likely just a personal issue that I have about outing people. Many transguys do not want others to know their birth name or that sort of personal info, and I think it just struck a cord with me is all.

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I absolutely and completely get what you are saying here about many/most transguys not wanting their birth names/trans status released. I assume that a newspaper would have to print the legal name of a suspect in a story (that they wouldn't have a choice about it), is all I was saying.
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The newest edition of the psychiatric diagnostic manual will do away with labeling transgender people as "disordered."

http://www.advocate.com/politics/tra...nder-dysphoria

This is interesting and will hopefully help more people...
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Hey Dapper,

Yes I agree, perhaps it is as you say. I still feel that it was not okay to publicly release the birth name. This is likely just a personal issue that I have about outing people. Many transguys do not want others to know their birth name or that sort of personal info, and I think it just struck a cord with me is all.

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To be more accurate, many transfolk, both men and women, do not want others to know their birth name or past life personal info.

It is dangerous for both transmen and transwomen to be outed. I am certainly prejudiced on the subject, but I think that in a lot of ways, it is more dangerous for transwomen, out there. Then again, I could certainly be wrong.

I've been outed before, in a hospital that I had never been to before, by the doctor that had sent me there for a test. He had agreed, prior to this, not to use my birth name for anything except for pay purposes. Yet, when I went for my MRI, the appointment was in my birth name, and the clown didn't think that he had done a thing wrong.
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To be more accurate, many transfolk, both men and women, do not want others to know their birth name or past life personal info.

It is dangerous for both transmen and transwomen to be outed. I am certainly prejudiced on the subject, but I think that in a lot of ways, it is more dangerous for transwomen, out there. Then again, I could certainly be wrong.

I've been outed before, in a hospital that I had never been to before, by the doctor that had sent me there for a test. He had agreed, prior to this, not to use my birth name for anything except for pay purposes. Yet, when I went for my MRI, the appointment was in my birth name, and the clown didn't think that he had done a thing wrong.

So, agree with you on this one. So agree.
HIPPA? anyone HIPPA? That makes me angry actually. You asked him not to include your birth name and he did. Did you confront him? and he just shrugged it off? That could be ignorance or pure evil.

I can remember my last Dr's appt. in a new city. ( a smaller city)
I had decided to be open to my doctor because i needed to get T there.

So, i had a male nurse doing my medical history and askin ?'s etc.. we were hitting it off...and then, i gave him the honor of including him on my being trans for some reason...(it was some ? i had to answer, i forget) and his face got beat red. It was interesting to watch him squirm kinda and to try and wrap his mind around the idea that i was a transman. I had to insist that i was trans. It was eye opening to me. I said to him..."dude, i don't share this personal information with everyone... consider yourself privileged". I said, this is who i am, we exist and you can learn something about trans people and our health needs." And we laughed a bit and talked more but, he got up to leave. So, in comes a female nurse to ask me questions. And another one comes in to ask me more ?'s. So, i check the dude's emotional state out and he was ok and chill and we talked more. If he had been rude or had a serious issue with me... i woulda gone off. I didn't confront him on telling the other nurses because i realized he couldn't deal. He was so caught off guard.

That is interesting to think about now too. He was a new nurse and i don't think he had any idea about what to do. I had some compassion for him. Lucky for him.
So, in comes a female nurse, who did know about trans issues and it was refreshing. She was awesome. Now that i am thinking about it again. I wonder...
Did they send in a female nurse because i am trans or did they send in the female nurse because she was not ignorant about trans health care like the others? One female nurse just acted way too happy to see me. freaked me out. I was just kinda curt with her. Maybe she was a femme...hummm
But, as a transman i am more comfortable with male drs. and nurses i think.
I think it is because i am shy and i would rather talk about personal things that embarrass me with a male.

But, my point, I didn't share with him so that more people would be invited into another (show and tell answer trans questionnaire 101) question and answer session. I was just there to get some bp medication and talk to the dr about getting T in the small city. And i still had to tell my doctor.

If i had asked him not to share and he did...i would have gone off. Wouldn't be the first or second time i have had to stick up for myself in a dr's office.
I hope you never have to deal with that doctor again. And if you do, i hope that you can get a different one that is more respectful.

i do think that transwomen have more hate (is that the right word here?) directed towards them. Transguys have to be careful also. But, it just isn't the same.

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To be more accurate, many transfolk, both men and women, do not want others to know their birth name or past life personal info.

It is dangerous for both transmen and transwomen to be outed. I am certainly prejudiced on the subject, but I think that in a lot of ways, it is more dangerous for transwomen, out there. Then again, I could certainly be wrong.

I've been outed before, in a hospital that I had never been to before, by the doctor that had sent me there for a test. He had agreed, prior to this, not to use my birth name for anything except for pay purposes. Yet, when I went for my MRI, the appointment was in my birth name, and the clown didn't think that he had done a thing wrong.
Nadeest,

I apologize. It was not my intention to leave transwomen out of the picture, but I certainly did so.

The danger and humiliation factors are there for all transpeople indeed. Not to mention the lack of inherent privacy issues in general.

Again, my apologies to you and the other transwomen,

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