The Debates

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How the 'news'paper I read sees it.

[JustJo]

Personally, I think it's hysterical that Romney seems to think marriage is a solution to anything.

I was married to Rooster's father....and he's still a deadbeat. I turned him in to Child Support Enforcement 10 months ago, and exactly nothing has been done and I still haven't gotten a dime.

Thankfully, I have a good job with good benefits, and I don't need child support or anyone else to support Rooster....but not all mothers are so fortunate.

Just goes to show how priveleged and out of touch Romney is....sure, in his world if you're married and it breaks up, there's a giant settlement. In the real world, it may just mean that you're stuck with the asshole's bills.

And, yea.....I'm down with the rabid gorilla wish. I can't stand Romney, and Obama has my vote even if he sat down and knitted through the whole debate.

http://bindersfullofwomen.com/

It's well worth the read.

[girl_dee]

Originally Posted by JustJo

Personally, I think it's hysterical that Romney seems to think marriage is a solution to anything.

I was married to Rooster's father....and he's still a deadbeat. I turned him in to Child Support Enforcement 10 months ago, and exactly nothing has been done and I still haven't gotten a dime.

Thankfully, I have a good job with good benefits, and I don't need child support or anyone else to support Rooster....but not all mothers are so fortunate.

Just goes to show how priveleged and out of touch Romney is....sure, in his world if you're married and it breaks up, there's a giant settlement. In the real world, it may just mean that you're stuck with the asshole's bills.

And, yea.....I'm down with the rabid gorilla wish. I can't stand Romney, and Obama has my vote even if he sat down and knitted through the whole debate.

i want to ask him if he realizes that there are married couples who live in poverty.

i know we did.

[The_Lady_Snow]

I'm going to speak from my Latina place, I'm disgusted and insulted each and every time Mittens brings up his "Mexican" references. What I mean by this is his continous reminder that his parents were born in Maxico.

I happen to be born there as well, he's not a Latino, Mexican, Catholic, culturally raised man. His father was born in Mexico cause they fled there. That's the only reason that Mittens can even let himself to use my people and country as ANY sort of reference. We may be simple folk, the folk who do jobs no one wants but we ain't stupid. He's an arrogant twit even to think that I'd be swooned by his ignorant references.

Phew I had to get that out:\

[Andrea]

I don't remember Romney's exact words but I felt his comments were condescending when he said women need "flexible" hours, etc. because they have families. Really? Men don't have families? Really?

[BullDog]

Romney doesn't support the Lily Ledbetter Act. He never answered the equal pay question. Who in their right mind thinks women should earn less than men?

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by Andrea

I don't remember Romney's exact words but I felt his comments were condescending when he said women need "flexible" hours, etc. because they have families. Really? Men don't have families? Really?

This pissed me off too Andrea. So, to me, Romney is saying...sure hire women, lots of them, BUT make sure you are flexible and give them time off to go home and play with kids and make dinner and THEN they can come back and finish their "other" job.

REALLY? We (women) aren't capable of taking a job (career) of our choice with our OWN intellectual balance of what is needed in *our* lives?

No thanks Romney!!!! I don't need YOU to tell me to get off work at 4 and go home and cook then my world will be complete. *I* am totally complete without your patronizing view on women's place in society. All *I* need is for the Government to make sure women get a fair shake to PAY.

I worked full time, sometimes 3-11 shifts, raising my kids, without needing to be home to care for my kids at 4 and cook supper. Know why? Because i am INTELLIGENT enough to make sure my children's needs are met.

This is NOT the 1950s.

Get a freaking clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Medusa]

I sent this in last night:


Dear Mitt Romney,

Let me tell you about the American people.

American people, at least the vast majority of them, do not live the way you do.

They don't have elevators for their cars.

They don't have millions of dollars in off-shore accounts.

They don't have trust funds they can pull money out of when they are sick of eating tuna fish in college.

Their wives don't wear $8000 suits.

Most of all, they don't live in the stone age where "IF" women are going to be in the workforce.

Newsflash: There is no "if" with regard to women in the workforce. We're here and have been for a very long time. I know it's probably hard for you to understand because the women in your life have been Nannies and Cooks and Stepford Wives who are supposed to be seen and not heard.

I work hard every single day and the idea that you think that there is an "if" in the workforce that apparently doesn't deserve equal pay, the right to choose what to do with my body, or the right to marry my partner is not only grotesque and offensive but is probably the most blinding display of sexism and privilege that I've seen in the political arena ever.

I don't want you leading this country if this is what you stand for. I wouldn't even want you taking out my garbage if this is what you stand for. You, sir, are a cookie-cutter shadow of all of the old rich white men who have come before you who believe that pandering and lying are the way to get into office.

See, I don't live in a world where other people are "beneathe" me. You apparently do. Your vision of the world is not a shiny new adventure toward renewal as you paint it to be, it is the same tired stereotypically lazy concept that white men get to call the shots for everyone around them.

I'm not buying it. What I *am* doing, however, is hitting 'send' on this email to you and going straight over to the donation page for Barack Obama.
That's my money talking. The money I worked for. The money that you don't believe in protecting with the equal pay act.

Thanks,
Angie

[girl_dee]

Originally Posted by Medusa

I sent this in last night:


Dear Mitt Romney,

Let me tell you about the American people.

American people, at least the vast majority of them, do not live the way you do.

They don't have elevators for their cars.

They don't have millions of dollars in off-shore accounts.

They don't have trust funds they can pull money out of when they are sick of eating tuna fish in college.

Their wives don't wear $8000 suits.

Most of all, they don't live in the stone age where "IF" women are going to be in the workforce.

Newsflash: There is no "if" with regard to women in the workforce. We're here and have been for a very long time. I know it's probably hard for you to understand because the women in your life have been Nannies and Cooks and Stepford Wives who are supposed to be seen and not heard.

I work hard every single day and the idea that you think that there is an "if" in the workforce that apparently doesn't deserve equal pay, the right to choose what to do with my body, or the right to marry my partner is not only grotesque and offensive but is probably the most blinding display of sexism and privilege that I've seen in the political arena ever.

I don't want you leading this country if this is what you stand for. I wouldn't even want you taking out my garbage if this is what you stand for. You, sir, are a cookie-cutter shadow of all of the old rich white men who have come before you who believe that pandering and lying are the way to get into office.

See, I don't live in a world where other people are "beneathe" me. You apparently do. Your vision of the world is not a shiny new adventure toward renewal as you paint it to be, it is the same tired stereotypically lazy concept that white men get to call the shots for everyone around them.

I'm not buying it. What I *am* doing, however, is hitting 'send' on this email to you and going straight over to the donation page for Barack Obama.
That's my money talking. The money I worked for. The money that you don't believe in protecting with the equal pay act.

Thanks,
Angie

i just felt a little tingle.........

[Gráinne]

Angie, I nominate you as one of my favorite people ever.

I don't think I've spent anywhere close to $8000 on clothes in thirty years. I hyperventilate if I have to buy a $200 suit.

I may not have agreed with the President in everything he's done (or not done), but at least he's living on the same damn planet.

[dreadgeek]

I posted this on my Facebook wall last night and I'm going to repost it here:

If you are forming a band and are looking for a name, Binders Full of Women. You're welcome.

Cheers
Aj

[dreadgeek]

My other post from FB last night:

Dear Mittens;

Here are the President's words, verbatim, from the Rose Garden:

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for."

Best,
A Citizen

I *loved* that look that Obama gave Romney after Romney all but said that the President did not care about the people who were killed in Libya and took a swipe at Mr. Obama's very genuine taking on the responsibility. I think that had it *not* been live on TV, he would have gone across the stage at Romney exclaiming "okay motherf---er I'm going to kick your butt up and down this stage...tell *me* I don't care about people I put in harm's way!"

[Kätzchen]

Yesterday, at the train station platform, a homeless black man had a carton of blackberry pies on hand in exchange for a bus pass for the day, if he could get one. I loved the ingenuity behind exchanging something of value for something he needed dearly - a paid bus ticket so he could get to work on time. I was done for the day (it was early afternoon) and traded my paid bus pass for the day (a five dollar pass) for a berry pie.

He then asked me if I was voting for Romney while trying to ask me for part of the tacos I had in my possession (the supper Eddie wanted me to get for him that he paid for by dropping funds into my account) and I looked at him and said: "No, I'm not giving you my son's supper nor am I voting for Romney and if Romney becomes president, you'll witness a nuclear explosion unheard of in this neighborhood. I'm fresh out of gaskets to blow. I am voting for President Obama: No. One. Deserves. My. Vote. Other. Than. Obama" (Served with a Femme Death Stare).


My hope is that Michelle Obama runs for President in 2016.

[Gráinne]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I'm going to speak from my Latina place, I'm disgusted and insulted each and every time Mittens brings up his "Mexican" references. What I mean by this is his continous reminder that his parents were born in Maxico.

I happen to be born there as well, he's not a Latino, Mexican, Catholic, culturally raised man. His father was born in Mexico cause they fled there. That's the only reason that Mittens can even let himself to use my people and country as ANY sort of reference. We may be simple folk, the folk who do jobs no one wants but we ain't stupid. He's an arrogant twit even to think that I'd be swooned by his ignorant references.

Phew I had to get that out:\

I find the reference to be a cheap and patronizing ploy for the so-called Latino vote. But "Latino" isn't synonymous with "Mexican". In my own apartment complex, there are Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Salvadoreans, and Cubans, among still other nations. All of those home countries have different cultures and intense pride in their own heritage. What I've found is that all of them resent the hell out of being tossed into a giant group together as if they're all the same,with the same issues and needs.

For Romney to insinuate that he understands the concerns and needs of "Latinos" because his ancestors were forced there is as ludicrous and offensive as if I made myself an expert on all Latinos because I went to Cancun.

[girl_dee]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I'm going to speak from my Latina place, I'm disgusted and insulted each and every time Mittens brings up his "Mexican" references. What I mean by this is his continous reminder that his parents were born in Maxico.

I happen to be born there as well, he's not a Latino, Mexican, Catholic, culturally raised man. His father was born in Mexico cause they fled there. That's the only reason that Mittens can even let himself to use my people and country as ANY sort of reference. We may be simple folk, the folk who do jobs no one wants but we ain't stupid. He's an arrogant twit even to think that I'd be swooned by his ignorant references.

Phew I had to get that out:\

Yes in the few minutes i listened in i heard *Mexican Drug Lords*... regarding illegal weapons!!!

[QueenofSmirks]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I'm going to speak from my Latina place, I'm disgusted and insulted each and every time Mittens brings up his "Mexican" references. What I mean by this is his continous reminder that his parents were born in Maxico.

I happen to be born there as well, he's not a Latino, Mexican, Catholic, culturally raised man. His father was born in Mexico cause they fled there. That's the only reason that Mittens can even let himself to use my people and country as ANY sort of reference. We may be simple folk, the folk who do jobs no one wants but we ain't stupid. He's an arrogant twit even to think that I'd be swooned by his ignorant references.

Phew I had to get that out:\

I posted something similar on Facebook after I heard he was running an ad where his son (?) does the ad in Spanish, to "reach the Latino vote". My reaction was: Are you freakin' kidding me??? His family FLED to Mexico to avoid persecution for practicing polygamy which is illegal in the U.S.! That hardly qualifies them as "Mexicans". To add insult to injury, look at his stance on immigration!! To say he sympathizes because his family are/were immigrants is bullshit.