Orange is the New Black: Season 2 Discussion

Mel C. · 06-18-2014, 08:50 PM

I really didnt care for crazy eyes beating the crap out of people this season. When she peed on the floor last season...hilarious. All the chocolate and vanilla swirl or dandelion stuff...loved it! The beating of piper (who is annoying but has yummy moments) and poussey (who may be my favorite if I ignore how hot Alex is) was something I could have done without. I get that there is violence in the world, especially in prison, but I dont have to like seeing it. The episodes where crazy eyes was being framed for attacking red and where crazy eyes cried won me back.

All around, the acting and storyline were great. More Alex make-outs next year please.

Medusa · 06-18-2014, 09:29 PM

Season 2 started out really slow for me and I almost thought it was going to suck about 2 episodes in.

The first season relied heavily on the book and several things in season 1 actually happened in real life (the famous CrazyEyes piss incident). Season 2 felt contrived to me in some ways and there were definitely moments where I knew they had tried to be witty and it just fell flat.

This season I loved Red, Taystee, Pousay, the trio of older women inmates (their names escape me), and even Vee at times.

I was completely irritated by the whole Larry/Best Friend thing and hope that they get rid of both of them in season 3. I mean, Larry comes off as a schmuck and the best friend was just....I mean, walking around with your tits out in front of your best friend's guy? It just wasn't believable to me. And the way they went to the prison for Piper's blessing? Gross.

I was bothered by the scene of CrazyEyes pouring water on Miss Rosa's food. That scene was especially cruel and it didn't feel like it fit with Crazyeye's personality. I guess they were trying to show the change in her because if her loyalty.

Piper irritated the piss out of me this season.

I hated Big Boo this season (which, I think the writer's intend because her behavior isn't so different from Nicky and most of us LOVE her).

I liked Caputo this season and Laverne Cox's character, Sophia, was spectacular. I'll be glad when they give her an actual story.

The scene with Red getting slocked hurt my feelings.

I LOVED to hate Vee. I initially loved her character and thought her to be a worthy villain but she got down-right evil as the season went on. Her ending was pretty unexpected.

Bard · 06-19-2014, 06:47 AM

We actually CHEERED at the end when Rosa ran over Vee i so wanted to slock the bitch that being said the actress who played Vee is awesome she always makes you really believe the character she plays. The whole Crazy Eyes development hurt my heart but I can see it the whole we've got manners were polite scene was AWESOME you gotta LOVE the way they developed the characters and you come away with favorites like Nicky and Miss Rosa all in all we loved it

ProfPacker · 06-19-2014, 01:45 PM

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Dude · 06-19-2014, 04:03 PM

My brain might explode if I don't purge something about
this show. Can I be brief ? No , probably not ;/
As much as I love the show , I felt my intelligence insulted
by unrealistic story lines. It felt hurried with filler that did
Not interest me. I felt even more ripped off when I learned
there is a 5 woman / 2 men writing team , with a 4 million
budget for a one hour show. Seriously? I hope they do better.

Things I would like to see happen are:
Fig comes back as inmate ( highly unlikely in the real world but
I would soo enjoy it anyway)

The father to be needs to quit his job there, find a better one
and those two be together . The end -already

Healey's wife kills him in self defence as he tries to force her
into wifely duties. ( dislike him - want him gone)
The wife and Red fall madly in love, get out together and open
their own restaurant. ( I'd shave Red's legs anyday - her husband
has deserted her -FFs - give her some love)

Rosa and Morello bond was heartwarming.
Morello gets counseling for her fucked up childhood
and her and Nikki live happily evah after.

Boo - her and Nikki know where the heroin is. Nikki
Again does the right thing knowing she will use again
if it's in there. Boo tries to hide it again but the DEA
( who was called in) busts her, takes her off in a van.
The driver of the van is Vee in disguise! Bwah !

Vee may not be dead. She is such a good actress she could
likely pull off coming back in a different role. I'd now like to see
her replace the " invisible wardon" and come back as a kick ass
positive character. ( far fetched maybe but she is that good!)

Piper - be gone. I liked her more season 2 but ... Alex had freedom,
I hope Alex finds out it was her doing , and hooks up with hmm ...
someone not so selfish. Yes, in a way she is trying to protect her from
being offed but she should have let her dissapear .Alex could then
somehow get the king pin off her ass and swoop up Piper when she gets out.
But I don't like Piper - so forget that ending! ;/

Sophia ( Sophia - Sophia <3 ) focus on her for an entire series,
her and son work through their stuff , released early for good behavior
opens a salon next to Red's restaurant! Snort ! Why not?

Yoga's back story. I'd like to see more of it as a recovering alcoholic.
People don't understand how dangerous drunks can get. I know two
women who have both accidentally killed kids while driving drunk.
I know she shot a kid but That wasn't Really her and she's better now.
Let her out but have her come back and do group.
She can write a best seller ,open a yoga shop
around the corner from Sophia and Red.

Poussey? Her eyes damn! I'd fix her breakfast too!
Tastee goes to shoe for a month and realizes she's
In love with Poussey , they both get released early ,
get married and live happily ever aftah

The end ( yeah)
So many characters to love they could do this for years
and I hope they will.
I also hope they will stream some of that money into
Real women's prisons and think if they did they would be
A huge success for a very long time.
If not money , then prompt investigations and reform.
Miss Claudette had a bad accident in real life ( apparently
With Out sufficient medical coverage) and I
hope they do the right thing by her too.

It would be great if they figured out a way to bring
her back.
If they can randomly call off a twelve inmate transfer
They can do anything right?
The face licker in Chicago was scarier to me than Vee.
Transfer her in to torment Piper a little?
Oh ....and
Can Pennsitucky go off her new meds? ( soon?!)
I don't want to like her - evah! Thanks ;]
Ok
I think I'm
Done
Now

Woah

Dude · 06-19-2014, 05:26 PM

Wait !
I forgot my newest crush ? - Gloria!
She falls for crazy eyes and helps her not be crazy!
A nice , slow romance. Gloria invents an herbal remedy
for Suzanne 's issues. That would be a hot couple.
Not one inter racial couple? It is time.
Notice how I'm turning everyone queer? ;]

*Anya* · 06-19-2014, 05:46 PM

Love your questions for analysis CCB!

Don't have time to respond right now, still @ work but I will say:

Alex would not necessarily have to f**k me but I sure would like it if she talked to me all night.

Love her voice!

(My honey knows this little piece of info).

06-18-2014, 09:29 PM	#2
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06-18-2014, 08:50 PM	#1
Mel C. Long-time Member How Do You Identify?: WIB - woman identified butch Preferred Pronoun?: Your choice...not really a button for me Relationship Status: ♡ married 1/1/2019♡ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,149 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,772 Thanked 6,828 Times in 1,621 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I really didnt care for crazy eyes beating the crap out of people this season. When she peed on the floor last season...hilarious. All the chocolate and vanilla swirl or dandelion stuff...loved it! The beating of piper (who is annoying but has yummy moments) and poussey (who may be my favorite if I ignore how hot Alex is) was something I could have done without. I get that there is violence in the world, especially in prison, but I dont have to like seeing it. The episodes where crazy eyes was being framed for attacking red and where crazy eyes cried won me back. All around, the acting and storyline were great. More Alex make-outs next year please.

06-19-2014, 04:03 PM	#5
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	My brain might explode if I don't purge something about this show. Can I be brief ? No , probably not ;/ As much as I love the show , I felt my intelligence insulted by unrealistic story lines. It felt hurried with filler that did Not interest me. I felt even more ripped off when I learned there is a 5 woman / 2 men writing team , with a 4 million budget for a one hour show. Seriously? I hope they do better. Things I would like to see happen are: Fig comes back as inmate ( highly unlikely in the real world but I would soo enjoy it anyway) The father to be needs to quit his job there, find a better one and those two be together . The end -already Healey's wife kills him in self defence as he tries to force her into wifely duties. ( dislike him - want him gone) The wife and Red fall madly in love, get out together and open their own restaurant. ( I'd shave Red's legs anyday - her husband has deserted her -FFs - give her some love) Rosa and Morello bond was heartwarming. Morello gets counseling for her fucked up childhood and her and Nikki live happily evah after. Boo - her and Nikki know where the heroin is. Nikki Again does the right thing knowing she will use again if it's in there. Boo tries to hide it again but the DEA ( who was called in) busts her, takes her off in a van. The driver of the van is Vee in disguise! Bwah ! Vee may not be dead. She is such a good actress she could likely pull off coming back in a different role. I'd now like to see her replace the " invisible wardon" and come back as a kick ass positive character. ( far fetched maybe but she is that good!) Piper - be gone. I liked her more season 2 but ... Alex had freedom, I hope Alex finds out it was her doing , and hooks up with hmm ... someone not so selfish. Yes, in a way she is trying to protect her from being offed but she should have let her dissapear .Alex could then somehow get the king pin off her ass and swoop up Piper when she gets out. But I don't like Piper - so forget that ending! ;/ Sophia ( Sophia - Sophia <3 ) focus on her for an entire series, her and son work through their stuff , released early for good behavior opens a salon next to Red's restaurant! Snort ! Why not? Yoga's back story. I'd like to see more of it as a recovering alcoholic. People don't understand how dangerous drunks can get. I know two women who have both accidentally killed kids while driving drunk. I know she shot a kid but That wasn't Really her and she's better now. Let her out but have her come back and do group. She can write a best seller ,open a yoga shop around the corner from Sophia and Red. Poussey? Her eyes damn! I'd fix her breakfast too! Tastee goes to shoe for a month and realizes she's In love with Poussey , they both get released early , get married and live happily ever aftah The end ( yeah) So many characters to love they could do this for years and I hope they will. I also hope they will stream some of that money into Real women's prisons and think if they did they would be A huge success for a very long time. If not money , then prompt investigations and reform. Miss Claudette had a bad accident in real life ( apparently With Out sufficient medical coverage) and I hope they do the right thing by her too. It would be great if they figured out a way to bring her back. If they can randomly call off a twelve inmate transfer They can do anything right? The face licker in Chicago was scarier to me than Vee. Transfer her in to torment Piper a little? Oh ....and Can Pennsitucky go off her new meds? ( soon?!) I don't want to like her - evah! Thanks ;] Ok I think I'm Done Now Woah

06-19-2014, 05:26 PM	#6
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Wait ! I forgot my newest crush ? - Gloria! She falls for crazy eyes and helps her not be crazy! A nice , slow romance. Gloria invents an herbal remedy for Suzanne 's issues. That would be a hot couple. Not one inter racial couple? It is time. Notice how I'm turning everyone queer? ;]