Fan Tasered. What do you think?

[Apocalipstic]

So sports are way more important than the welfare of a child.

Ayyyyy.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

So sports are way more important than the welfare of a child.

Ayyyyy.

Well kids dad knew he was there, even told him

*not a good idea*

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Well kids dad knew he was there, even told him

*not a good idea*

I guess I am amazed that people think sports are more important than this child.

Sports are supposed to be for fun, but they have gotten so serious (no doubt in some part due to gambling), that here we are talking about taseing a child.

Amazing

[Blade]

certainly sports isn't more important than the welfare of a child. I'm thinking more often than not it isn't a child doing the silly stuff just someone acting like a child. And how does an officer know if it is a child or not anyway. What do you do ask for an ID before you taser them?

I think but I could be wrong that I heard they charged him with trespass. He had a ticket for the game, are the stands and the ball field not on the same piece of property? I think people do stuff like that for the thrill of it or on a dare or cuz they are drunk. If the media didn't make such a big deal of it you'd probably see the occurrence of it even less often.

I think I'd like to drive my Tundra up in the middle of the boys one Sunday when the Chevy's are giving my 'Yota boys to much of a hard time. Wreck a few of them and give the race back to my 'Yota boys.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Blade

certainly sports isn't more important than the welfare of a child. I'm thinking more often than not it isn't a child doing the silly stuff just someone acting like a child. And how does an officer know if it is a child or not anyway. What do you do ask for an ID before you taser them?

I think but I could be wrong that I heard they charged him with trespass. He had a ticket for the game, are the stands and the ball field not on the same piece of property? I think people do stuff like that for the thrill of it or on a dare or cuz they are drunk. If the media didn't make such a big deal of it you'd probably see the occurrence of it even less often.

I think I'd like to drive my Tundra up in the middle of the boys one Sunday when the Chevy's are giving my 'Yota boys to much of a hard time. Wreck a few of them and give the race back to my 'Yota boys.

I think if there is any chance its a child, no taser.

I agree about the media, this got way more coverage than the entire flood here in Nashville with most of the city under water.

[Bad_boi]

Only if they are being violent.

[Dean Thoreau]

not enough choices....................
i vote that people who disrupt an event in which there was an admission charge....be removed placed in a prison cell and left there till the end of the event, afterwhich they be hung so as never to do it again.

perhaps it will take 3 or 4 hangings but eventually people will learn that disrupting an event is not "cute, funny, or a way to get your 15 minutes of fame" this goes for little kids who decide to start screaming in church as well....hang them and their parents.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Hack,

Monica Seles never played after that incident. In fact, she was stabbed by that so-called "fan". She wrote a book afterwards. Now who knows where she is in her life. Very sad.

[Linus]

PHILADELPHIA: Illegal

Philadelphia City Ordinance. Statute 10-825 Stun Guns. (1) Definitions. (a) Stun Gun. Any device which expels or projects a projectile which, upon coming in contact with a person, is capable of inflicting injury or an electric shock to such person. (2) Prohibited conduct. No person shall own, use, possess, sell or otherwise transfer any "stun gun." (3) Penalty. Any person violating any provision of this section shall be subject to a fine or not more than three hundred (300) dollars and /or imprisonment for not more than ninety (90 days.)


Source: http://rkdefense.com/laws.php

Off-duty or not, it's illegal.


Now, the ethics of it... part of me can understand it. The amount of alcohol and other "stuff" that goes on, as well as some of the over zealousness of some fans towards or against sports figures could warrant it. There is another part that wonders how much of a threat he really was and whether it was just frustration on the part of the security guards.



The question that is appropriate is how well trained was the individual in the use of the taser. If trained well, they have saved lives on both sides of the taser. Unfortunately, I have doubts as to how well some are trained. There have been a few too many cases where the use of tasers (stun guns) have resulted in deaths of individuals (some were due to improper training, others due to the health of the individual in question).

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Dean Thoreau

not enough choices....................
i vote that people who disrupt an event in which there was an admission charge....be removed placed in a prison cell and left there till the end of the event, afterwhich they be hung so as never to do it again.

perhaps it will take 3 or 4 hangings but eventually people will learn that disrupting an event is not "cute, funny, or a way to get your 15 minutes of fame" this goes for little kids who decide to start screaming in church as well....hang them and their parents.

Death penalties have been proven as an unsuccessful deterrent in addressing behaviorial issues/challenges in society. I think removing the "beer" aspect of sporting events would be a little better at deterring this kind of behaviour.

As for kids and parents, this is part of life. Kids will scream in the most inappropriate places. While we don't like it, it is part of their and their parents "growing up" stages.

[NJFemmie]

Stun guns may be illegal for every day people, but they are not illegal for police officers.

(e) EXCEPTIONS.-- Nothing in this section shall prohibit the possession or use by, or the sale or furnishing of any electric or electronic incapacitation device to, a law enforcement agency, peace officer, employee of a correctional institution, county jail or prison or detention center, the National Guard or reserves or a member of the National Guard or reserves for use in their official duties. Taken from here.


Now that I live relatively close to Philly, I see first hand how truly obnoxious Philly fans can be - the news is constantly filled with just bad, middle-child behavior (not just sports-related) - and each year it just gets worse.

I'm not an advocate for excessive force, and I am certainly not an advocate of force against minors - but I do think being tasered is hella better than being shot. I also think it sends a loud message that this behavior will not be rewarded with just a mere slap on the wrist and a big "ha-ha".

Sitting in a tank for the remainder of a game isn't necessarily going to dissuade someone from doing it again - they've already "achieved their goal". At the same time, I am not saying to tase the shit out of the whole stadium.

Maybe the fines aren't large enough, or maybe jail time needs to be imposed (if it isn't already, idk) - but I do think that they need to do something before sports events are viewed behind a gigantic iron gate, yanno? (.... or worse, someone gets hurt again .... keeping Monica in mind.....)

[adorable]

I am all for tasering or the use of baseball bats. If you are dumb enough to run out onto a field in the middle of a game - you deserve it. If you are dumb enough to run from the police who are telling you to stop - you deserve it. If you are dumb enough not to listen to someone that gets paid (poorly) to carry a gun -you deserve it.

As for him being 17 - as the mother of a 17 year old girl, I think all 17 year olds should be tasered on their 17th birthday so they know what it feels like. That way when they go to a party with all their stupid friends and the police show up, they don't think running their mouth is such a great idea. I would like to buy a taser actually, it would save me from losing my voice like I do currently. That and I bet her room would be immaculate.

In Florida they are fond of tasering elementary kids. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11...r_kids_zapped/

I do draw the line there. Keep tasers out of elementary school. But, high school - 16 and up - go for it.

[apretty]

Originally Posted by adorable

Keep tasers out of elementary school. But, high school - 16 and up - go for it.

my parents didn't use a taser *once* and my room was immaculate and my curfew was 10pm until i was 18--i was late one time.

i can't speak to mouthing-off to cops because that was/is beyond inconceivable, my parents made it perfectly clear that if i ever was arrested/picked up by the cops that i should under no circumstance waste a phone call on calling them because my dad would *NEVER* bail me out of JH/jail.

so, it's probably not the taser (or bat)--though my dad was and probably still is an excellent shot. (target practice, mainly.)

[SuperFemme]

Yeah. I don't think making light of using excessive force on minors is funny.
Coming from a person that survived a mother who used it regularly.