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Old 06-05-2010, 10:54 AM   #461
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I'm thinking we could solve two problems currently plaguing our nation.

Let's send the Arizona racists to the gulf to plug/sop up the BP oil spill. Just cram a few dozen down that hole in the pipe, use some others to soak up oil, like white bread in gravy, and maybe we could wipe down some oil fouled pelicans with still others.

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My mistake. Snark much?

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I'm thinking we could solve two problems currently plaguing our nation.

Let's send the Arizona racists to the gulf to plug/sop up the BP oil spill. Just cram a few dozen down that hole in the pipe, use some others to soak up oil, like white bread in gravy, and maybe we could wipe down some oil fouled pelicans with still others.

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You first need to write the Governor of AZ and tell her to lead by example, then, after we all celebrate, you can write Rush and the rest of the conservative whacks and ask them to follow suit.
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No, no snark, just a statement.
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actually Dapper's link gave me more information........there were links in the article that didn't show up on your post....
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The further whiting of america.. Because no other peoples have made ANY impact on this country...

It makes me fucking sick.. really.. like I need to toss my cookies..

WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER WHAT COLOR ANYONE IS??????

You respect someones culture, you try to understand that you might have been raised differently and have different responces to the world...

But really.. Every race... EVERY Race have the same type of people in it..

You take a cross cutting from any culture, any color spectrum and you are going to have the exact same personality spectrum..


*rant*

When I was a young teenager just starting to think about dating boys.. My brothers gathered round me and told me why I couldn't date boys of certain races..

Now, only one of these boys that I called brother was my biological brother..
the other four were his best friends...

Each of these boys told me why I couldn't date a boy of their race..

You know what? The reason was all the same..

Beat me and get me pregnant...

They just prefexed it with race...

I remember looking at them and thinking.. Ya'll are crazy.. you just don't want me to date... /end rant*

I'm really starting to think that this world has a soul sickness..
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Has this story broken into MSM in the USA? CNN or any of the major network news?

This story needs to be all over the place. It needs attention and exposure. I want to see the people interviewed who made the school *whitening* decision.

So angry.
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Random, it is pretty sickening. Racism is alive and well in North America. It just seems to me that there is a new wave of it and the scary part is that this time around they are actually proud of it and taking it to the streets and it is deep in government.

HSIN, I haven't seen it anywhere else but HuffPo and the Marion Observer. This is one of the problems, mainstream media is not covering this mostly because those who own it are in on it. My opinion.
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I don't know, U, it seems SO outrageous to me that even the MSM would want a stab at it despite owners/bias etc.

Maybe Maddow will pick the story up...I'd love to see THAT interview.
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I don't know, U, it seems SO outrageous to me that even the MSM would want a stab at it despite owners/bias etc.

Maybe Maddow will pick the story up...I'd love to see THAT interview.
I think Maddow is a little busy with the Gulf Oil Spill. Perhaps Mr. Bent Over can write her?

I would love to see it too. I don't get MSNBC here but I follow it online. Maybe they have the story bury somewhere in there, I will take a look around.
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Prescott, Ariz., elementary school to 'whiten' image of child in mural

An artist's decision to prominently feature a non-white child on an elementary-school mural in Prescott, Ariz., sparked so much controversy that school administrators asked him to "lighten" the child's face after a city councilman launched a campaign against the mural, according to the Arizona Republic.

The Prescott episode isn't likely to help Arizona's growing reputation as a battleground of racial and ethnic confrontation, as the state faces a widespread boycott campaign over its harsh new immigration law.

The mural, which was funded by a state grant, features the faces of four actual students at the school and is intended to promote biking and other environmentally sustainable modes of transportation. The most prominent face on it belongs to a Latino student.

Steve Blair didn't like that. Blair, local city councilman and talk-radio host, inveighed against the mural on his show last month, according to the New York Daily News:

"I am not a racist individual," Blair said on a radio show last month, "but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's President of the United States today and based upon the history of this community, when I grew up we had four black families — who I have been very good friends with for years — to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?' "

Good question, to which there are two answers: 1) The boy in question is of Latino heritage (but it's hard to tell them all apart sometimes, right?), and 2) because the boy in question is of Latino heritage. It is suspicious, though, seeing as how only 42 percent of Arizonans aren't white.

R.E. Wall, a Prescott artist who worked on the mural along with several other members of the city's Downtown Mural Project, told the Republic that local residents driving by the mural as they were painting it — sometimes with children helping — shouted ethnic slurs. Wall claimed the school's principal asked him to make the child's skin tone lighter in response to the pushback. The principal acknowledged receiving three complaints about the child's race but insisted that the lightening was an "artistic" decision.

The important thing to remember here is that Steve Blair is not a racist individual and that he has been very good friends with Prescott's four black families for years. Blair didn't immediately return a phone call from Yahoo! News.

— John Cook is a senior national reporter/blogger for Yahoo! News.
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Arizona Elementary School Will Whiten The Faces Of Its Own Students On A Mural Because Some Racists Yelled At It [UPDATE]

Jason Linkins HuffPost Reporting

UPDATE: Good news. The gutless, carbound racists lost, and the mural is being restored to its "original theme." Jeff Lane, the principal of Miller Valley Elementary School, and Kevin Kapp, the school superintendent, showed up at a protest today to apologize for giving in to whims of mentally deranged adults, spewing racial epithets at a painting:

I am not a racist individual, but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's President of the United States today and based upon the history of this community, when I grew up we had four black families - who I have been very good friends with for years - to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?'

Yes. WHY DID SOMEONE PUT A BLACK PERSON ON A PAINTING? You "have" to "ask" the "question!"

Anyway, Steve Blair lost too, and I am delighted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_601436.html
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I believe there must be SOME connection between AZ's SB 2010 (are those the numbers?) and BP's oil spill.........

I'm pretty sure of it.





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I believe there must be SOME connection between AZ's SB 2010 (are those the numbers?) and BP's oil spill.........

I'm pretty sure of it.


How about oil rig worker jobs are high paying and mostly held by skilled, white males.... yanno. The ones that don't seem to want the low pay, crop picking ones that mega-bucks argricultural corporations offer migrant workers. Just the legal, ones, of course... they never bring undocumented workers over the borders in the back of trucks like they were cattle.

But! BP did hire unskilled workers, mostly Latino to clean LA beaches during Obama's prior visit to LA. Only on a temporary basis, however, they were there only while the President was, haven't been back. Rumor has it that they were not even LA residents just like the private security companies BP hired to keep the press off the beaches and await from the marshes. Yanno, the public beaches in which during a time of emergency, the state of LA would have full control over...

Freaking BP couldn't even pay local unemployed residents to do their scams with! As if there are not a ton of people there right now unable to fish! Oh, then there is the millions BP has put into ads to tell people how much they are going to do in the clean-up….

How's that? Kind of a stretch, but the only things I could come up with...
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Here you go HSIN:

Arizona school sorry for wanting lighter kids' faces on mural
maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...faces-on-mural

By the way, Maddows FB page has some interesting comments on this story, including this one:

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"Stick to the gulf issue Maddow, not nonsense like this !"
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Arizona Elementary School Will Whiten The Faces Of Its Own Students On A Mural Because Some Racists Yelled At It [UPDATE]

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I am not a racist individual, but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's President of the United States today and based upon the history of this community, when I grew up we had four black families - who I have been very good friends with for years - to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?'

Yes. WHY DID SOMEONE PUT A BLACK PERSON ON A PAINTING? You "have" to "ask" the "question!"

Anyway, Steve Blair lost too, and I am delighted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_601436.html
Isn't it always the case that when some twit is advocating some racist or racially charged perspective that they ALWAYS have one or two convenient 'black friends' who, if the speaker is pressed, always agrees with the racist sentiment or doesn't think it is racist? I think this guy's definition of 'friend', at least vis a vis black people, is "I don't call them names, I acknowledge their existence at the grocery store, and I didn't move or call the police the moment they moved in to the neighborhood".

The thing I want to know is how bad does it have to get before people stop saying that ANY opposition to racist laws, actions or people is 'playing the race card'? It seems that 'playing the race card' applies to any such opposition for 20 or 30 years after the incident. So right now, we are FINALLY far enough removed from the civil rights movement that it is no longer playing the race card.

"Making trouble" = "being uppity" = "creating racial tension" = "playing the race card"
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Isn't it always the case that when some twit is advocating some racist or racially charged perspective that they ALWAYS have one or two convenient 'black friends' who, if the speaker is pressed, always agrees with the racist sentiment or doesn't think it is racist? I think this guy's definition of 'friend', at least vis a vis black people, is "I don't call them names, I acknowledge their existence at the grocery store, and I didn't move or call the police the moment they moved in to the neighborhood".

The thing I want to know is how bad does it have to get before people stop saying that ANY opposition to racist laws, actions or people is 'playing the race card'? It seems that 'playing the race card' applies to any such opposition for 20 or 30 years after the incident. So right now, we are FINALLY far enough removed from the civil rights movement that it is no longer playing the race card. "Making trouble" = "being uppity" = "creating racial tension" = "playing the race card"


Yes, how long? And it makes me crazy to hear ... I have friends that are ____________ (fill in the blank). La-De-Fucking Da!!

So very much is being lost because of the acting-out of having our first African American president. It is not lost on me that Obama continues to refuse to do anything in which whites can say ... see, he's just another angry black man... The stuff around his not displaying emotion about the Gulf spill is indicative of this. He ran the entire campaign with this on his mind....
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Random, it is pretty sickening. Racism is alive and well in North America. It just seems to me that there is a new wave of it and the scary part is that this time around they are actually proud of it and taking it to the streets and it is deep in government.

HSIN, I haven't seen it anywhere else but HuffPo and the Marion Observer. This is one of the problems, mainstream media is not covering this mostly because those who own it are in on it. My opinion.
U, you have hit it for me... it is the pride in racism that seems different to me.

I knew that with the financial crisis and recession, we would see an upsurg in bold racist statements, actions, etc. along with obama being elected. But, whoa...
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Yes, how long? And it makes me crazy to hear ... I have friends that are ____________ (fill in the blank). La-De-Fucking Da!!

So very much is being lost because of the acting-out of having our first African American president. It is not lost on me that Obama continues to refuse to do anything in which whites can say ... see, he's just another angry black man... The stuff around his not displaying emotion about the Gulf spill is indicative of this. He ran the entire campaign with this on his mind....
Susan:

If my Spock-like demeanor is ever frustrating to you, just remember the above paragraph. My entire professional and much of my personal life has been built-on and predicated upon having very close control of (and awareness of so I *CAN* control) my emotions. My career would come to a sudden and crashing halt if I developed a reputation as the 'angry, black lesbian'. If I let my emotions out to play in casual company I wouldn't be where I am today and I wouldn't be where I'm headed tomorrow. I know that.

In fact, when I am in a long-term relationship with a white woman (as I am now) one thing I will let her know, fairly early on, is that there is a shell that I wear that is almost always on in public. It's not conscious and has its own momentum at this point. It's so ingrained, in fact...well, let me tell you a short anecdote.

In my first job in the computer industry, back in 1994, I ended up at IGC Networks (PeaceNet, EcoNet, LaborNet, WomensNet). As a non-profit on the side of the angels, I was NOT the only black woman at the organization--although I was the only black woman working in tech. One day Deborah, Tracy and I (the three black women) were sitting in what passed as our lunch room. Deborah was telling us one of her stories and because it was just us there, we all let our language slip into the vernacular. This guy George came into the lunchroom and, in mid-sentence Deborah code-switched and dropped back into very precise diction and grammar. We followed her without missing a beat and still laughed at the joke. George, because he was a very hip, liberal guy who had really done some anti-racism work, recognized what had happened and said something about it, being very apologetic that he had interrupted. Deborah looked at him and said "It's cool, George. We know you're down. But this isn't something we can help, it just happens. There's a voice for when it's just black folks and there's a voice for when white folks come in the room. The only reason any of us work here is because switching between the two is second nature."

I get Obama. He can't afford to have his emotions show for the same reason that Condi Rice can't, or Colin Powell, or Eric Holder or myself--in fact, Oprah is the only black person of that kind of stature who *can* let her emotions out and then, only *certain* emotions. If you want to know how important this is, you need look no further than one Alan Keyes. He says all the right conservative things, he shows up at all the right conservative people, he has disowned his lesbian daughter to burnish his conservative cred but he's too emotional in public. All the difference in the world.

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