It's Time to Boycott Arizona

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

I don't feel that there's a need to be disillusioned or think that this becomes less relevant. It was significant, it huge that the team did this, and it was huge that the commissioner approved. All I was doing was presenting the facts. Having as much information as possible should be important (if for no other reason than to avoid the sudden humiliation of announcing to a group of folks that the Suns made these great uniforms to protest only to have some NBA fan call "bullshit" to your face).

Um I posted the link in question and I don't believe any of the words you used were expressed by myself. Yes I have seen those uniforms before.

[Soon]

http://gringomask.com/

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Um I posted the link in question and I don't believe any of the words you used were expressed by myself. Yes I have seen those uniforms before.

I'm really confused, as nothing that I posted referenced you or your words. I clearly stated that most of the media reports that I had seen neglected to mention that these uniforms already existed. If your offended or something, please don't be; it really wasn't about you.

[FR]

http://presente.org/sticker/az?ak_uid=72.35028.3zfWY8

--link to free sticker or more with donation and good site

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by FR

http://presente.org/sticker/az?ak_uid=72.35028.3zfWY8

--link to free sticker or more with donation and good site

[Diva]

This is a good thread......but I am frustrated for the good people in AZ.....

Just the good ones...not the creepy ones......

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

There's also the hypocrisy of good old Chuck Grassley, who does not want terrorists mirandized and also believes that it violates the 2nd Amendment if folks on the FBI watch list are banned from buying weapons. Gotta protect the 2nd, but fuck the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th.

Maybe we need a new thread.

he really is not being very consistent is he?

if you are on the FBI list you should not be read your rights, but you should be able to get a gun. makes no sense.

UGH

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

I'm really confused, as nothing that I posted referenced you or your words. I clearly stated that most of the media reports that I had seen neglected to mention that these uniforms already existed. If your offended or something, please don't be; it really wasn't about you.

Not offended, clarity.

[MsDemeanor]

This thread derail is so much of a derail that it's a "the train is in the next county somewhere hanging from a tree" derail, but this is the only thread I'm posting in lately and I simply had to share.

linklyloo

[firie]

Wanted to post this following email from a social work professor in Arizona. I was given a green light to share it in good company and thought the accounting here of what is happening was important to share, as this is not what is being shown on any of my local news channels.

Anyway, here is the email:
Greetings everyone,
I hope all of you are healthy, happy and productive in whatever ways you have chosen. It would be a treat to hear from any of you who find time enough to send an email. Of course, I haven't been communicating with you either, but am now moved to do so by the urgency of what is happening here in Arizona . I believe the word is out nation-wide that our state legislature produced the most racist piece of legislation since those brought down by the civil rights movement. SB 1070 allows local police and sheriffs in AZ to apprehend anyone they have reason to suspect is in the US without documentation. In AZ that is anybody who "looks Mexican" or if they are feeling particularly motivated, anyone whose skin is not obviously white! Never mind that this is land taken from Mexico with assurance that the Mexican families living here were made full US citizens, that the majority of Latinos living here are citizens, that our Latino population has much deeper roots here than Anglos, that Mexican families live on both sides of the border, that our Native American population--with the deepest roots here--also get swept up in this "ethnic cleansing" effort. Truly, it is hard to believe what I see happening around me!

In addition to the engagement of local law enforcement officers in this madness, both the Border Patrol and ICE are acting with impunity. Two weeks ago ICE brought in an additional 200 agents to conduct a sweep of an area on Tucson . They blocked off streets in the Latino section of the city and raided the commercial shuttle companies that transport people between Tucson and Phoenix , and between Tucson and Nogales . The majority of their passengers are Latino since families are spread among these three cities. Owners and drivers were arrested as "smugglers" basically, because they transport people without regard to their legal status. (Of course, they have no legal right to ask their customers status!) This part of the ICE action got positive media coverage as a significant arrest of smugglers. What the media did not say was that the ICE agents also invaded some apartment buildings, going door to door, banging on the doors and shouting at occupants to open up. What else was not reported was that these ICE agents were MASKED AND FULLY ARMED WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. Clearly, it was an effort aimed at terrorizing the Latino community, and believe me, it was successful! This is only one event that may give you a sense of the fact that we are living in a militarized zone down here.

I'm telling you this, because I know you to be thoughtful, concerned citizens, and people nationwide need to know what is happening. In fact, you may have realized that something of the same nature is happening, hopefully in a smaller way, in your own communities. Down in Nogales , Mexico , where we are trying to help people who have been deported from the US , we are meeting people who have been picked up and deported from all parts of the country. For example, last week I was talking with a man deported from Pensacola , Florida . He was preparing to cross our desert and some way get back home because "My wife and 3 kids--my only family--are in Pensacola ." (All his family members are US citizens.) We hear this over and over again, every day, from people deported from every state.

Please, talk to your friends and neighbors about what is happening in our country. It would be great if you would express concern in letters to your government representatives and letters to the editor of your local papers. Please urge the federal government to overturn SB 1070 in AZ as it did the racist laws in the South during the civil rights movement.

Ok folks, I'm sorry to load this on you, but I needed to write it! I hope you understand that you are the recipients because I know what good folks you are. Again, I want you to know I still think about all of you often and am grateful for our connection. However, for the moment---til we get SB 1070 repealed, I have to urge everyone to BOYCOTT ARIZONA !

[MsMerrick]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

This thread derail is so much of a derail that it's a "the train is in the next county somewhere hanging from a tree" derail, but this is the only thread I'm posting in lately and I simply had to share.

linklyloo

My Alot is cuter than you're Alot... ( yes on purpose.. )

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by MsMerrick

My Alot is cuter than you're Alot... ( yes on purpose.. )

I like you Alot

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

This thread derail is so much of a derail that it's a "the train is in the next county somewhere hanging from a tree" derail, but this is the only thread I'm posting in lately and I simply had to share.

linklyloo

Yeah. So thanks alot!

[Diva]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

This thread derail is so much of a derail that it's a "the train is in the next county somewhere hanging from a tree" derail, but this is the only thread I'm posting in lately and I simply had to share.

linklyloo

Austin should have Alot Ranches......You know....to keep it weird alot......

[MsMerrick]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

I like you Alot

Irregardless, I dig you ...

[BornBronson]

Well,after reading a few more of these posts,I am still not convinced why I should boycott Arizona.I believe that all immigrants should be welcome here in America,after all,this is a land built on people from many countries.You can't deny that we are living in a dangerous world.America has rules and laws,I support that.When I was born I was documented and given a birth certificate and a social security number.I also had just enough native American blood in me to be issued a card stating that I am a bona fide member of a federally recognized tribe.All those documents have helped me in some way or another,but most importantly it has proven my citizenship,and that I can be 'tracked' so to speak,and frankly I'm fine with that.I'm a good productive person in this society that doesn't commit crimes for a living.I'm simply saying here that by supporting Arizona's new law that if I was given 'papers' to live in this country,why shouldn't others from different countries be expected to?.We now know that this bill was drawn up by a racist,that alone will probably get it struck down by the supreme court.But I don't see it as being a racist law.If the law is killed,I hope something similar is written up so that it won't be seen as a law that profiles people..but that could be a real challenge.

Someone reported my posts as being racist,I am sorry you felt that way.My opinion is here because it should be counted,like yours.If my opinion is different than yours,then lets agree to disagree.But don't call me something that is untrue..or try to get me banned for typing my thoughts on this serious subject.When you do that I feel like you're trying to censor me.

I'm here trying to figure it all out myself.If we work together we might get something done to protect our borders.

Peace y'all,not war.

[Queerasfck]

Originally Posted by BornBronson

If we work together we might get something done to protect our borders.

Peace y'all,not war.

What are we protecting our borders from exactly?

[MsDemeanor]

Bronson, if you were stopped by a cop every time you drove your car and asked to produce papers, or a cop came to your door twice a week under the premise of you having some minor lawn violation and asked you to produce papers, or a cop wandered over in the middle of a romantic dinner and asked you to produce papers, would you still be "fine with that"? If you walked down the block to grab a soda from the local store and forgot your papers and ended up in jail or fined because you forgot your papers, would you still be "fine with that"? I'm just trying to gauge where you stand on pesky little things like civil liberties and such.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by EzeeTiger

What are we protecting our borders from exactly?

From people who want to mow our lawns and wash our dishes and harvest our food and clean our hotel rooms, perhaps?

Originally Posted by BornBronson

If we work together we might get something done to protect our borders.

It's not 'borders", it's "border". Just one. Just the one to the south. No one's pitching a fit about closing the border to the north, or building ten foot sea walls along the coasts. There's only one border that they seem to be concerned about.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

From people who want to mow our lawns and wash our dishes and harvest our food and clean our hotel rooms, perhaps?


It's not 'borders", it's "border". Just one. Just the one to the south. No one's pitching a fit about closing the border to the north, or building ten foot sea walls along the coasts. There's only one border that they seem to be concerned about.

Right, that's the same border that allowed in that guy who planted the car bomb in Times Square.

He was just super miffed he couldn't get a job mowing lawns.

What's that border? Can we protect that one?

NE1?