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View Poll Results: Do you think people who distrupt events should be tasered?
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:25 PM   #41
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When I transform into a sports figure in my haze of adrenalin and cheers. I channel Jack Lambert

Geez Snowy, my admiration for you just grew even bigger!!! Jack Lambert is one of my childhood idols. Sniff, sniff, the thought of him manhandling people brings a tear to my eyes. I heard he's a forest ranger now. I can see him sitting in the woods far away from people rather than destroying them.
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Y'all get pretty worked up about your sports I see.

and yes, NASCAR is a sport.
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There was a case a couple of years ago where an Eastern European immigrant arrived at a western Canadian airport and for some reason there was no there to greet him. After several hours of wandering around the airport, not being able to find anyone who could communicate with him, and unable to find the people who were supposed to meet him, he was becoming increasingly agitated. At some point in time airport security was called - this would be the R.C.M.P. Now, I'm just too lazy to go search CBC archives to find it, but airport video clearly showed that the officers involved made NO attempt to communicate with the man. They simply approached him and repeatedly tasered him. Not so funny, huh? What's even LESS funny is that the man died. Yup. It can happen. He had no medical conditions that complicated the mattter - tasers can actually do that at times. They can kill people. The man was NOT considered to be a threat to ANYONE. He was just upset.

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Okay, I say it depends on the event. There are some crazy ass fans at some events that need to be zapped!

I also think that taking away the adult beverages is cruel and unusual punishment for those of us that like to partake in the ball park beer at $80 a pop...or whatever they are charging these days! ( I never buy) People like me are too drunk or out of shape to jump the wall and possibly break a leg trying to run in the first damn place! (This kid was 17, and if he was drunk and doing this, he needs to be brought up on drinking under the age of 21 and whomever was buying him the beer should be tazed...er uh, I mean punished!)

Run....heh....right!

If they are just running in circles, let them run til they get dizzy! I think the heavy set cops are just pissed they couldn't catch the little bugger, so he tazed him! I did have to laugh a bit when I saw the picture in the paper this morning....what idiots...the fan and the cop! Both of them need to control themselves for crying out loud!

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I'm not a taser fan, and as a young person growing up and slightly a heathen I'm certainly glad the cops didn't carry them back in my day.

As for paying good money to go to a game, hmm do you know how much money people paid to see Mike Tyson bite off Evander Holyfields ear. Chuckling...now that is a time I'd like to have seen a fan run up in the middle of all the fun. At least the game goes on.
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So sports are way more important than the welfare of a child.

Ayyyyy.
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There was a case a couple of years ago where an Eastern European immigrant arrived at a western Canadian airport and for some reason there was no there to greet him. After several hours of wandering around the airport, not being able to find anyone who could communicate with him, and unable to find the people who were supposed to meet him, he was becoming increasingly agitated. At some point in time airport security was called - this would be the R.C.M.P. Now, I'm just too lazy to go search CBC archives to find it, but airport video clearly showed that the officers involved made NO attempt to communicate with the man. They simply approached him and repeatedly tasered him. Not so funny, huh? What's even LESS funny is that the man died. Yup. It can happen. He had no medical conditions that complicated the mattter - tasers can actually do that at times. They can kill people. The man was NOT considered to be a threat to ANYONE. He was just upset.

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this was at a sporting event not the airport...
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So sports are way more important than the welfare of a child.

Ayyyyy.
Well kids dad knew he was there, even told him

*not a good idea*

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Double standard much?

They never tazed Morgana the Kissing Bandit now did they?


I just had to bring this up again..
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Well kids dad knew he was there, even told him

*not a good idea*

I guess I am amazed that people think sports are more important than this child.

Sports are supposed to be for fun, but they have gotten so serious (no doubt in some part due to gambling), that here we are talking about taseing a child.

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certainly sports isn't more important than the welfare of a child. I'm thinking more often than not it isn't a child doing the silly stuff just someone acting like a child. And how does an officer know if it is a child or not anyway. What do you do ask for an ID before you taser them?

I think but I could be wrong that I heard they charged him with trespass. He had a ticket for the game, are the stands and the ball field not on the same piece of property? I think people do stuff like that for the thrill of it or on a dare or cuz they are drunk. If the media didn't make such a big deal of it you'd probably see the occurrence of it even less often.


I think I'd like to drive my Tundra up in the middle of the boys one Sunday when the Chevy's are giving my 'Yota boys to much of a hard time. Wreck a few of them and give the race back to my 'Yota boys.
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certainly sports isn't more important than the welfare of a child. I'm thinking more often than not it isn't a child doing the silly stuff just someone acting like a child. And how does an officer know if it is a child or not anyway. What do you do ask for an ID before you taser them?

I think but I could be wrong that I heard they charged him with trespass. He had a ticket for the game, are the stands and the ball field not on the same piece of property? I think people do stuff like that for the thrill of it or on a dare or cuz they are drunk. If the media didn't make such a big deal of it you'd probably see the occurrence of it even less often.


I think I'd like to drive my Tundra up in the middle of the boys one Sunday when the Chevy's are giving my 'Yota boys to much of a hard time. Wreck a few of them and give the race back to my 'Yota boys.
I think if there is any chance its a child, no taser.

I agree about the media, this got way more coverage than the entire flood here in Nashville with most of the city under water.
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I think if there is any chance its a child, no taser.

I agree about the media, this got way more coverage than the entire flood here in Nashville with most of the city under water.

Cody (my son) is 17 in this picture, he looks like a grown man




He is 6ft 1 and about 189

I hope I gave him enough sense not to run across some field during an sporting event..

Now if I seen a guy jump over the fencing, running, I would be a lil worried, this day and age we just don't know..

Look at NY a bomb was sitting there waiting to go off.

This kid could of been someone dangerous

How do we know? Or do we just let any ass hat run across the field during a game?

Oh wait, if it's a girl in lil shorts and large breats it's a go!
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That is what I thought too Snowy. Had it been a girl would she have been tasered? Oh no that would have been a side show! Also I'm disappointed you had no comment on me wrecking the Chevy's........
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Ehhhh, we disagree on this. No biggie! Hell, I don't even go to sporting events when I can help it.

Your Son is a cutie Snow! Of course!
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That is what I thought too Snowy. Had it been a girl would she have been tasered? Oh no that would have been a side show! Also I'm disappointed you had no comment on me wrecking the Chevy's........

Who is this person who speaks of Toyota drivers...

Hendrick Sports back to back 4 in a row that is all I have to say....
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Isn't it strange that nobody is going near the double standard issue?
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Second example: A woman is running around a shopping mall threatening anyone who comes close to her with a knife. She's disoriented - in fact, she's suffering from a psychotic break. The police follow her into a store and using their tasers, immobilize and disarm her. Nobody was hurt. This happened last year in a small city a couple of hours' drive away from here. I believe the woman had attacked her husband before going to the mall. Can't remember the details. She was hospitalized - for the psychosis, not injuries related to the tasering. The officers involved received public praise for the restraint shown in their intervention.

I think this is an appropriate use of the taser, though I still think it can be dangerous. This situation could have ended much differently, and deadly force probably would have been justified.

As for tasering someone for being a nuisance? .....the man doesn't have the right to call himself a law enforcement professional. Their training includes the psychology of intervention, not simply the physical dynamics of it. Was the kid on the field an asshat? He certainly was. But tasering for conveniance......not cool. Not cool at all. In fact - sometimes it's deadly.
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Second example: A woman is running around a shopping mall threatening anyone who comes close to her with a knife. She's disoriented - in fact, she's suffering from a psychotic break. The police follow her into a store and using their tasers, immobilize and disarm her. Nobody was hurt. This happened last year in a small city a couple of hours' drive away from here. I believe the woman had attacked her husband before going to the mall. Can't remember the details. She was hospitalized - for the psychosis, not injuries related to the tasering. The officers involved received public praise for the restraint shown in their intervention.

I think this is an appropriate use of the taser, though I still think it can be dangerous. This situation could have ended much differently, and deadly force probably would have been justified.

As for tasering someone for being a nuisance? .....the man doesn't have the right to call himself a law enforcement professional. Their training includes the psychology of intervention, not simply the physical dynamics of it. Was the kid on the field an asshat? He certainly was. But tasering for conveniance......not cool. Not cool at all. In fact - sometimes it's deadly.

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