Single FTM's & Femme's

[Leigh]

I could not imagine living somewhere that does not have cold & snow around christmas ~ to me it just wouldn't be the same!

[Hominid]

Originally Posted by AlixKnight4All

I agree Hominid I know there are more singles around here. I think it might be the title of the thread *shrugs* who knows. Then again unless we keep it on the front page of the site or near the top no one will find it. Took me over 6 months to find it I just knew there had to be a non butch/femme single thread. Now if we can only find the singles and get them to start posting in here *laugh*

Screw all singles, I just want more women!

[Hominid]

I really had it in my head that I would have a snuggly and someone for whom to build a fire this fall/winter. I guess the snuggly remains the boxer and I'll build the fire for the parrot and save a tree at Christmas time. Ho hum and Bah Humbug.

[Nadeest]

Hang in there, Hominid. You never really know when that special person is going to come into your life.

[Heavenleahangel]

Originally Posted by Hominid

I really had it in my head that I would have a snuggly and someone for whom to build a fire this fall/winter. I guess the snuggly remains the boxer and I'll build the fire for the parrot and save a tree at Christmas time. Ho hum and Bah Humbug.

Hominid, I had the same thing rolling around in my head! Now it's fall, and I'm starting to adopt your way of thinking! Bah Humbug!!!

[morningstar55]

Morning

[LoyalWolfsBlade]

Evening everyone...first day of the week and first day of the month...three months left in this year....anyone have Halloween plans...one of the times I wish I had children and the best memories I have of walking my nieces and nephews around...except is almost always rains here that night and is usually so cold by then that the kids have to wear coats over the costumes....I haven't decided if I am doing anything this year but I am sure I will do something...anyone else....I will at least hit the pumpkin and apples that are every where right now...

Hi to morningstar, Heavenleangel, leigh, and Hominid, Kent...and anyone else I forgot

[Hominid]

Retaining my sense of humor ...

An opossum was brought in by the dogs last night ... I thought it was an old, wet stuffed animal and I got really close and it was a young one, and it moved a leg - so I flipped out, got help from a friend who visits once a year (thank God bigger than me) and hid behind her ... when we returned it was gone. Damn, those things are nasty so I was even more ascared! Finally found it on the couch, my brave butch friend let me hide behind her while she gathered it and took it to the woods.

I can handle all modes/forms of dying people ... not animals. A bit of transference?

This morning, young, dead squirrel by my truck when I went to work.
And this evening, one of the dogs broke through a window on the garage trying to get to the birds in a nest which was built in the garage because I never close the door ...

Weird goings on ...

[Leigh]

Originally Posted by Hominid

I really had it in my head that I would have a snuggly and someone for whom to build a fire this fall/winter. I guess the snuggly remains the boxer and I'll build the fire for the parrot and save a tree at Christmas time. Ho hum and Bah Humbug.

Yeah I sometimes get that way around the holidays with not having anyone, but when its the right time someone will come into your life and it'll be amazing

Originally Posted by Nadeest

Hang in there, Hominid. You never really know when that special person is going to come into your life.

Everyone has someone out there for them, and as hard as it can be to keep the faith (i know that too well), we just have to know someone is out there waiting for us too

Originally Posted by Heavenleahangel

Hominid, I had the same thing rolling around in my head! Now it's fall, and I'm starting to adopt your way of thinking! Bah Humbug!!!

Aww I know ~ its so easy to adopt that way of thinking but with the holidays around the corner, I know atleast for me I can't stay in that mood too long!

Originally Posted by morningstar55

Morning

Evening now morningstar, but I hope you had a good day

Originally Posted by AlixKnight4All

Evening everyone...first day of the week and first day of the month...three months left in this year....anyone have Halloween plans...one of the times I wish I had children and the best memories I have of walking my nieces and nephews around...except is almost always rains here that night and is usually so cold by then that the kids have to wear coats over the costumes....I haven't decided if I am doing anything this year but I am sure I will do something...anyone else....I will at least hit the pumpkin and apples that are every where right now...

i still can't decide what i am gonna do but its too bad You didn't live closer Alix, You could help me to give out the candy cuz i will likely be giving the candy out alone this year booooooooooo lol

[LoyalWolfsBlade]

More like keep you from eating it you mean leigh....hey I know we can keep each other from eating it and you can make sure I don't give out handfuls of candy at a time instead of a couple

[Hominid]

At least I can work for other people who have their kids and families at home - my Christmas gift to my amazing peers.

My biggest problem in meeting people is my work schedule. And being an introvert. And living in such a queer-strong area -sort of. Grown up queers/FtM's, etc. are few - it's very traditionally crunchy at my age. I lean towards slightly younger women, and that generation (early 30's) is more butch-femme ... or bisexual women. Lots and lots of bisexual women. But it seems they are more interested in EITHER a born male or a woman ... dick or no dick seeming to be the focus. BUT ... in you're in your early 20's and FtM, you have it made. Very much known and femmes are very interested. I'm not sure how that will look at those cute boys become balding, hairy men ...

Anyway, it's really odd to be in such a queer friendly place and just disappear into the liberal masses as an apparent cis-male. When I flirt with "my type" - slightly andro women, strong straight women, or funky tattooed geeks, I am looked at like I'm nuts. I wonder if this at all parallels the experience of the "invisible femme". Then again, I just want to move in the world at large as male, even though I'm not sure how I would announce what is in my pants or how I was born.

More prattling ... trying to keep the board going more than whining ... no dead animals in 12 hours!

[Leigh]

Originally Posted by AlixKnight4All

More like keep you from eating it you mean leigh....hey I know we can keep each other from eating it and you can make sure I don't give out handfuls of candy at a time instead of a couple

*giggles* yes Your so right Alix, i think if we were giving out candy together it would be quite interesting *grin*

[Nadeest]

It definitely gets 'interesting', Hominid, having to have that 'talk' with someone that you are interested in, when you tell them that you are ts, and what that implies. I've had to do it once, with a male, so far, and he completely lost interest at that point. A pity, but it is a lot better response then what could have happened.

[ScandalAndy]

well now i want a BFP halloween party with a bonfire!

[stepfordfemme]

Originally Posted by Hominid

At least I can work for other people who have their kids and families at home - my Christmas gift to my amazing peers.

My biggest problem in meeting people is my work schedule. And being an introvert. And living in such a queer-strong area -sort of. Grown up queers/FtM's, etc. are few - it's very traditionally crunchy at my age. I lean towards slightly younger women, and that generation (early 30's) is more butch-femme ... or bisexual women. Lots and lots of bisexual women. But it seems they are more interested in EITHER a born male or a woman ... dick or no dick seeming to be the focus. BUT ... in you're in your early 20's and FtM, you have it made. Very much known and femmes are very interested. I'm not sure how that will look at those cute boys become balding, hairy men ...

Anyway, it's really odd to be in such a queer friendly place and just disappear into the liberal masses as an apparent cis-male. When I flirt with "my type" - slightly andro women, strong straight women, or funky tattooed geeks, I am looked at like I'm nuts. I wonder if this at all parallels the experience of the "invisible femme". Then again, I just want to move in the world at large as male, even though I'm not sure how I would announce what is in my pants or how I was born.

More prattling ... trying to keep the board going more than whining ... no dead animals in 12 hours!

The bolded section may be your experience, but I just want to say there are femmes (including my young fine twentysomething femme self) that care a lot more about than c*ck/No c*ck.

I've been partnered with one of those young twentysomething (very hot) transguys, that you think may have it made. Please talk to these guys. Talk on this site. Just to see if their experiences validate your opinion.

We all have a tough road... femmes that feel invisible and trans men that don't pass. Men that deal with the exact issues you speak of. It might not change how you feel, but you might find some people to share your experiences with. Maybe they'll hook you up with a hottie tattoo'ed geek they know. As a trans-sensual femme, believe me the dating scene is no easier on us. I feel/have felt like I need a sign on my forehead.

Maybe you should try talking to some queer Id'ed or pansexual/sapiosexual/ whatever new beautiful word-- some of these ladies have. Gender identity for femmes/females is just as varied as with the trans community.

And, as a woman, I would hope that my love for my partner would surpass any barrier. I will someday not be my young fabulous self, and I would hope that my man would want me JUST the same. Love is all encompassing. Lust is just the physical.

Nice step off for some discussion!

[LoyalWolfsBlade]

Originally Posted by Hominid

At least I can work for other people who have their kids and families at home - my Christmas gift to my amazing peers.

My biggest problem in meeting people is my work schedule. And being an introvert. And living in such a queer-strong area -sort of. Grown up queers/FtM's, etc. are few - it's very traditionally crunchy at my age. I lean towards slightly younger women, and that generation (early 30's) is more butch-femme ... or bisexual women. Lots and lots of bisexual women. But it seems they are more interested in EITHER a born male or a woman ... dick or no dick seeming to be the focus. BUT ... in you're in your early 20's and FtM, you have it made. Very much known and femmes are very interested. I'm not sure how that will look at those cute boys become balding, hairy men ...

Anyway, it's really odd to be in such a queer friendly place and just disappear into the liberal masses as an apparent cis-male. When I flirt with "my type" - slightly andro women, strong straight women, or funky tattooed geeks, I am looked at like I'm nuts. I wonder if this at all parallels the experience of the "invisible femme". Then again, I just want to move in the world at large as male, even though I'm not sure how I would announce what is in my pants or how I was born.

More prattling ... trying to keep the board going more than whining ... no dead animals in 12 hours!

Originally Posted by Nadeest

It definitely gets 'interesting', Hominid, having to have that 'talk' with someone that you are interested in, when you tell them that you are ts, and what that implies. I've had to do it once, with a male, so far, and he completely lost interest at that point. A pity, but it is a lot better response then what could have happened.

Originally Posted by stepfordfemme

The bolded section may be your experience, but I just want to say there are femmes (including my young fine twentysomething femme self) that care a lot more about than c*ck/No c*ck.

I've been partnered with one of those young twentysomething (very hot) transguys, that you think may have it made. Please talk to these guys. Talk on this site. Just to see if their experiences validate your opinion.

We all have a tough road... femmes that feel invisible and trans men that don't pass. Men that deal with the exact issues you speak of. It might not change how you feel, but you might find some people to share your experiences with. Maybe they'll hook you up with a hottie tattoo'ed geek they know. As a trans-sensual femme, believe me the dating scene is no easier on us. I feel/have felt like I need a sign on my forehead.

Maybe you should try talking to some queer Id'ed or pansexual/sapiosexual/ whatever new beautiful word-- some of these ladies have. Gender identity for femmes/females is just as varied as with the trans community.

And, as a woman, I would hope that my love for my partner would surpass any barrier. I will someday not be my young fabulous self, and I would hope that my man would want me JUST the same. Love is all encompassing. Lust is just the physical.

Nice step off for some discussion!

adding my voice and wondering again if I should have started a whole new thread instead of using one that already existed. As a 40 something trans guy not a FTM I have to agree that gender identity is very varied for both femmes and male id'd individuals. As one such femme on here pointed out when I asked where were the ladies that like guys like me...they are every where. Everywhere except where I live that is *laugh*

As a guy that does not always pass and as one that has had his face slapped when I did for being honest about my birth gender I can tell you it is not fun for me. Yet I do not give up and choose to not flirt with straight women because I want more then lust. I can find lust any where. I am discovering after finding this site that there is a wide range of gender identities out there and a wide range of experiences in those gender ids. I can tell you the discussion is just as hard for someone like me that is trans but chooses not to transition and tries everything possible to pass.
That I love women of different gender identified for who they are as a person. Yet I post in the single FTM thread because it is more honest then posting in the general singles thread though Id o post there too. Personally I think because you live in Mass. you have more options then most I know because I used to live in that state.

I know I am rambling...a little tired and not enough coffee yet
Guess I am trying to say I agree with Stepfordfemme maybe try talking to some of the other guys on this site and not limit it to the FTMs though talk to them also and you may find that all of feel invisible and you may just find the kind of person your interested in flirting with or having a relationship with. Maybe talk to some of the femmes too I know I learn a lot from them.

Anyone want or need coffee I know I do......

[Leigh]

Just talk to a different variety of people, learn what you can about each individual person because we are all different, and know that us gals who love each and every one of you are out there waiting to be found

[Hominid]

Alix, Leigh - Thanks both. I'm not sure I suggested I don't talk to lots of femmes/butches/FtM's - but to keep my reply succinct (not very good at this) - I talk to all sorts of people, and glean my opinion/experience of this area from that in particular, which is why I have thoughts about the experiences of some of the different gender presentations and identities and what they experience compared to myself. I know far fewer FtM's - my friends are on different parts of the queer spectrum, from butch lesbian bottoms to femme tops.
As you pointed out in bold, this is my experience, a generalization of the gender politics and identities and how different generations move within the continuum and relate where I live.

[Hominid]

Just popping my head in ... there's an echo!

[Duchess]

Good morning everybody. I'm glad I found this thread. Looking forward to making new friends. Anybody from Atlanta?


Duchess