Movies anyone?

[LipstickLola]

I just saw Wall Street, rather slow moving and predictable, IMO.

skip it til rental time.

[Laerkin]

We saw the Waiting for Superman documentary last night.

Wow. Compelling, convincing, heartbreaking, staggering, and left me saddened.

I would HIGHLY encourage folks to see it. You'll leave thinking "wow", too.

[Jet]

Secretariat
The Town
and maybe Chain Letter
are on my list

[Semantics]

I just ordered The Experiment with Adrien Brody and Forest Whitaker.


It's a remake of Das Experiment which was based on the Stanford Prison Experiment.

[Miss Scarlett]

Recent movies watched:

The Blind Side - very good but I get the feeling a lot of license was probably taken by the director & writer. I thought "SJ" stole the show.

Seven Years in Tibet - not a big Brad Pitt fan but I liked the movie, the culture clashes were interesting. (Bit of trivia - the Dalai Lama's sister played his mother in this fiim.)

Twilight - I love the scenery. My boss says I am probably one of the only people on the planet who would watch this folm fr the scenery.

O Brother Where Art Thou - love, love, love this! "Do not seek the treasure...", "We thought you was a toad..." "...R-U-N-N-O-F-T..." and the line Shelia hates to hear me quote "I've spoken my piece and counted to three."

[Gemme]

The Losers~predictable in the beginning but a good action flick plus Zoe Saldana is a hot badass.

Just Wright~Queen Latifah. 'nuff said.

Kick Ass~I knew it was darker than the trailers let on, but it was MUCH darker than I expected. We liked it though.

Dance Flick~it was alright. Some parts were awesome and we totally cracked up and the rest was like 'eh'. We both love the Wayans family though.

[Jet]

One of the best movies I've seen recently is State of Play with Ben Affleck and Russel Crowe

Shades of All the President's Men. If you like suspense, crime dramas or the political genre I highly recommend it!

[Rook]

I saw

The Karate Kid {Jaden Smith / Jackie Chan}, Some parts gave a "nod" to the original, but it was very well-done..some parts kinda stretched credibility, but then, thats the beauty of Films...Although, the main difference between the 2 movies is "Dre" isn't learning karate but rather Wushu/Gungfu

My Name is Khan
, A Muslim Indian with Asperger Syndrome deals with Life, Love and 9/11 in his own way....

Sybil {Sally Field}..Very in-depth about a woman coping with child abuse by "splintering" into many personalities...

I also indulged in 2 other films since I feel the need to pamper Myself, besides chicken soup....

Belle Epoque {penelope Cruz}, a Wandering Agnostic guy meets with a devil-may-care old guy, and falls for each of his daughters, each one proving to be a handful in their own way....
{one of the daughters was raised as a Son}

Tortilla Soup {Hector Elizondo, Elizabeth Peña, Raquel Welch}.. a Mexican-American version of the Chinese "Eat Drink Man Woman"..a Gentleman wants the best for his 3 "modern" daughters, and they want him to be happy as well in his hectic restaurateur world...A few funny misunderstandings occur, but in the end things work out....

[While I loved 7 years in Tibet, I prefer "Kundun"]

[EnderD_503]

Tonight I watched Sophie Scholl. Very good Bavarian/German film on Sophie and her brother Hans' last days before their execution. I highly recommend it.

[Rook]

btw...
I forgot to add this little part...
My favorite moment in "Karate Kid" was when Jackie Chan kills the fly....not quite like Pat Morita..And yes, Jaden's character was right ..."Ok ..that's just...Gross"
I had a flashback to "The Golden Child" when Eddie Murphy gripes about the lil ole chinese guy pickin his nose

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Rook

I saw

The Karate Kid {Jaden Smith / Jackie Chan}, Some parts gave a "nod" to the original, but it was very well-done..some parts kinda stretched credibility, but then, thats the beauty of Films...Although, the main difference between the 2 movies is "Dre" isn't learning karate but rather Wushu/Gungfu

Originally Posted by Rook

btw...
I forgot to add this little part...
My favorite moment in "Karate Kid" was when Jackie Chan kills the fly....not quite like Pat Morita..And yes, Jaden's character was right ..."Ok ..that's just...Gross"
I had a flashback to "The Golden Child" when Eddie Murphy gripes about the lil ole chinese guy pickin his nose

I forgot to mention I saw this too. I also enjoyed the fly scene and appreciated the attempts to modernize the movie. I was stuck on one thing though. They never said WHY they moved to China. That bugged me a bit, cuz I like as much back story as possible.

[Semantics]

The Social Network.


I liked it. Jesse Eisenberg was excellent in this movie.

[Rook]

I agree..
My guess is the Mother is fresh Divorced *or Widow*, has a Job opportunity in her Field, in China {which is credible, considering how nowadays, despite China's politics, business savvy people tend to migrate there, including americans}, based on the fact she's a single parent & she tells Dre "We have nothing over there, this is Home".
In the original, it was kind of the same...
But, yeah, back story is preferable for me...
I dont like "assuming", thats not my job..My contribution is paying to enjoy the Film..

Currently Watching "Down in The Delta" {Alfre Woodard, Wesley Snipes}
Elderly Matriarch takes her grandkids and alcoholic/drug addicted Daughter back to the Family home in the Delta, as a last resort to save her daughter, and teach the grandkids Value of Family while learning about their Ancestral history...

[Gemme]

I knew she was a widow, since the doorway where Dre was measured had an entry "Dad died". I figured something along the lines of a job opportunity too, but I like to hear it from the makers of the movie.

[Greyson]

I found this to be interesting. I have never worked in nor studied Film. If I knew what I know now, I may have chosen a career in Film behind the camera. USC was the Film School to attend when I was growing up.
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Tarantino's Gal

An appreciation of film editor Sally Menke

By Sasha Watson

Posted Wednesday, Oct. 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM ET


In a scene from Inglourious Basterds that vibrates with tension, Col. Hans Landa, the Nazi played by Oscar winner Christoph Waltz, toys with Mélanie Laurent's Shosanna Dreyfus. He's forcing her to eat apple strudel with him in a Paris restaurant, suggesting but never saying outright that he knows who she is: the Jewish girl who escaped his massacre of her family at a dairy farm. It's a key moment in the film, and it signals the beginning of the girl's plot to kill Hitler.

The scene works because of the tight focus on seemingly mundane details—the way a cigarette is offered, an eyebrow raised, a dollop of cream served. Film editor Sally Menke, who died earlier this month, discusses her work on the film in Invisible Art/Visible Artists, a documentary made annually by Allan Holzman to celebrate Oscar-nominated editors: "Does he know that it's Shosanna?" asks Menke. "Does he offer her the drink of milk, does he control the cream knowing that she was the last person at the dairy farm? It's an unanswered question and we wanted to leave it unanswered, and so hence the close-ups and hence the controlling of the cigarettes." The scene ends just after Landa has kissed Shosanna's hand and walked away, leaving her gasping at the table. "She goes into just a huge well of tears at the end of the scene," says Menke, "and we cut it short because we only wanted her to just release the breath because she had to remain a fountain of strength because she was going to plan the death of Hitler."

Watching her speak, it's clear that Menke was easily as invested as Tarantino in the Oscar-nominated film and that her contribution was essential to the film's success. For many of us, used to thinking of a film as the creation of an auteur-director, it comes as a surprise to learn just how much creative control editors have. They're often the only ones to see every minute of footage shot for a film. Out of that mass of footage, they pick shots, lines of dialogue, and character-revealing expressions, telling the story visually by sequencing the events of the film. As Holzman says, "The director shoots and then the editor makes a movie out of it." Tarantino has repeatedly said as much, calling the woman who edited every one of his films his "No. 1 collaborator." After all, when Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction first came out, a huge part of their appeal was the thrilling way they jumped between characters and times. And yet, until her death, Menke's name was little-known outside of industry circles.

The long-term partnership between a director and an editor can resemble a traditional marriage, with the director the public face of the couple and the editor acting as the classic woman-behind-the-man, honing the vision and crafting the persona that he presents to the world. And in fact, more women tend to work as editors than in other Hollywood fields. And many of the qualities associated with a good editor could be construed as traditionally female—at least for females of a certain age. Like some marriages, the relationships seem anachronistic, or maybe just harmonious, depending who you ask.

"That's my gal," someone who worked with Tarantino recalls him saying about Menke. In a 2004 documentary, The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing, Tarantino says that he was specifically looking for a female editor, one who would "nurture" him through his movies. Menke embraced the role, and its lack of wider recognition, too. In The Guardian last year, she wrote, "Editors are the quiet heroes of movies, and I like it that way."

Some editors do seem frustrated by the extent to which their work goes unrecognized by viewers, but they usually accept it as an occupational hazard. "It's hard to tell what's well-edited," says Lillian Benson, a documentary editor who serves on the board of American Cinema Editors, or ACE, "because the job is not to call attention to yourself." Holzman, meanwhile, wryly says that "editors are meant to be heard but not seen." The public face of a film, after all, is the director's, and directors are often given—and take—credit for work that's done in the editing room. Tarantino's frequent and enthusiastic tributes to Menke's editing have always been the exception to the rule.

Hollywood is still largely dominated by men, as was endlessly pointed out when Kathryn Bigelow was the first woman to win the Oscar for best director last spring, but according to the Celluloid Ceiling, an annual study that crunches the numbers of female vs. male representation in the 250 top-grossing films of the year, 17 percent of editors in 2009 were women. That's in contrast to 7 percent of directors and just 2 percent of cinematographers, numbers that don't go up or down very much over time.

When editors, female or male, talk about what they do, they inevitably say that they need to be good listeners, to be sensitive to other people's needs, to bring out the best in others, and to find workable compromises. In her recent article "The End of Men," Double X editor Hanna Rosin points to "social intelligence, open communication, the ability to sit still and focus" as qualities traditionally associated with women. And maybe this answers the puzzle of why there are so many more female editors in Hollywood than there are directors, cinematographers, or screenwriters.

The under-sung history of editing is filled with women's names, unlike that of directing and cinematography. "Women were thought to be good editors because they had small hands, and it was also thought that editing was a little bit like sewing," says Martha Lauzen, who runs the Center for the Study of Women in Film and Television at San Diego State University, where the Celluloid Ceiling study is done. "It was considered something women could do because you were stitching pieces together," adds Anita Brandt Burgoyne, who edited Legally Blonde and Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, among many other films. "It was a little like housework."

The idea of editing as a menial task changed over the years, but women remained in its top ranks. Dede Allen, who died last year at the age of 86, revolutionized editing in 1967 with Bonnie and Clyde. She and director Arthur Penn introduced the fast cuts that freed editing from the literal expression of time and space, and that have come to dominate movies, commercials, and music videos. Thelma Schoonmaker, meanwhile, has edited most of Martin Scorsese's films*; and George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, and Peter Bogdanovich all worked with the late Verna Fields, their "mother cutter," who in 1975 received both an Oscar and an ACE Eddie award for her work on Jaws. McCormick says that the membership of ACE, an honorary society, tends to be about one-third female.

According to Debra Neil-Fisher, who won the Eddie Award for best edited comedy or musical feature film for The Hangover last year, there's no mystery as to why lots of women are editors: "I'd say that the role of the editor is good for females because we have the ability to give creatively without too much ego attached." Dede Allen said pretty much the same thing in an interview back in the early '90s: "Women of my generation are more used to serving someone else creatively, and not feeling maligned by it as much. It must be very hard for certain men in terms of an ego or a macho thing, when they are constantly having to redo something they feel very strongly about."

It's dicey to criticize a relationship that both parties agree works for them—however unbalanced it may look from the outside—but, really, shouldn't editors be getting a lot more credit here? Maybe they choose their careers, in part, because they'd rather labor alone in a cutting room than act as the public face of a film, and maybe the role of silent hero simply suits many of them, but Tarantino has been right to point out and celebrate Menke's work over the years. After all, without her sharp eye in the editing room, Tarantino's movies, and even his career, would have looked very different than they do today.

Correction, Oct. 14, 2010: This article mistakenly claimed that Thelma Schoonmaker has edited all of Martin Scorsese's films. In fact, she has not edited all of his films. (Return to the corrected sentence.)


Sasha Watson has written about books, art, and travel for the Los Angeles Times, ARTnews, and the Daily Beast. She is the author of the young adult novel Vidalia in Paris.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2270808/

[Gemme]

I saw How to Train Your Dragon and both Organic and I loved it. Very sweet movie.

[Jet]

I'm watching Salt tonight..I'll let you know what I think.
Saw half of Invictus last night. Really boring so I wont return.

[Oiler41]

We had a date night Saturday and went to see The Social Network. I don't know exactly how accurate it was, but overall it was a pretty good movie. And of course, with it being date night, it could have been a bad movie seen with the best of company!

Glynn

[Gemme]

We saw Spread tonight with Ashton Kutcher. Eh, I'm not in love with it but I liked the player getting played thing going on in it.

[Jet]

Been catching directors who are Masters of Horror. Some of those flicks I can't watch. The first time I saw Chainsaw Massacre in high school, I left the theatre after about 20 minutes and sat in the lobby. Scared the hell out of me. What I think is interesting is the scope of Wes Craven who's right up there with Tobe Hooper with a long list of hor-n-gore classics. Talented guy. A Master of Horror but had the talent to completely flip genres to direct something like Music of The Heart with Meryl Streep. Warm movie about a violin teacher who teaches inner city kids.