Head-Spinning Political Shit!

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Corkey

http://teapartynationalism.com/index...ion&Itemid=104

In case there was any doubt

Ok I must be behind, again. Is this Sarah Palin's tea party or another tea party?

These people are, pardon my language, majorly f*&^ed.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Ok I must be behind, again. Is this Sarah Palin's tea party or another tea party?

These people are, pardon my language, majorly f*&^ed.

Oh these are the people who run the people who just got elected.
Fun stuff huh?

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Oh these are the people who run the people who just got elected.
Fun stuff huh?

I havent been able to read all of the propaganda yet.
But why are there so many factions? Factions usually
indicate dissention in the ranks over specifics.

Ok I need to read this when I am awake. Thanks for the link.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I havent been able to read all of the propaganda yet.
But why are there so many factions? Factions usually
indicate dissention in the ranks over specifics.

Ok I need to read this when I am awake. Thanks for the link.

All the nuts have fallen from the same tree, they just haven't figured out which nut is in charge.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by gayla

Well, if they let me have control of the nukes, then I'll stay. I think that's a fair trade.

Yeah, that makes me feel better

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I havent been able to read all of the propaganda yet.
But why are there so many factions? Factions usually
indicate dissention in the ranks over specifics.

The different factions are each backed by a different wealthy person, corporation, or career politician. Rove is behind some of it, the brothers at Koch Industries (a couple of boys who inherited daddy's fortune and now share the #9 spot of the richest people) are behind a group, etc. Some are also pushing an extreme concoction of the god/guns/gays conservative social agenda, while others want to confine their pile of lies to monetary issues. All of the would be amusing if it were not destroying millions of lives and shredding the very fabric of our country.

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I havent been able to read all of the propaganda yet.
But why are there so many factions? Factions usually
indicate dissention in the ranks over specifics.

Ok I need to read this when I am awake. Thanks for the link.

Pretending like there are a zillion factions rather than one central Tea Party is part of the illusion they use to pretend that they are legitimately grass roots.

[theoddz]

Well, it looks like President Obama has proposed to freeze the pay of Federal Employees (and retired annuitants like my Pop)for both 2011 and 2012. The national office of my Union, the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) sent me an email this morning notifying me of such. Here's a little video on the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...24140#40424140

Please note:
I realize that these are fiscally hard times and believe me, I am totally in touch with the fact that I am so very, very lucky to have the federal job I have with all its benefits, stability and such. I am especially thankful that this job I have is so tolerant of my personal medical problems that are directly related to my military service. I shit you not, friends....I get up every morning, put my feet on the floor and thank the Universe for all of my blessings, as they are many!! I also am very sensitive to the fact that there are so many of us, here in our community, who are struggling so hard to even find a job, keep a home, or even a simple roof over their heads.

Now, with that in mind:
I, personally, have no problem making the sacrifice of a pay raise for the next year or two, but damn it, our President better damned well make these uber rich Wall St. execs and these billionaires and multibillionaires shoulder some of this sacrifice, too!!! If he's going to ask common everyday middle class Americans to "suck it up" and then allow these fucking money barons to sop up more bucks at the expense of the rest of us.........I will damned sure vote his ass out in 2012!! You can bet on it.

~Theo~

[katsarecool]

The first place is to get angry at Congress; that is where the majority of the blame is to go; the big bucks who have a great deal of power and influence. I do not trust politicians that sit in Congress as far as I can toss their sorry asses. And the lobbyists and earmark bills as well.

I read a bio of Lyndon Johnson several years ago that describes all the manipulation, butt kissing, asking favors he had to do to get the three or four pieces of Civil Rights laws passed during his time in office. What a bunch of creepy game players they are while laws that need to be passed and the ones they are designed to protect are held hostage.

I totally agree that the money and power hungry bastards (I was going to spell it out with a few astericks but hell no!) need to be curtailed and put out of a job or curbed at the least. I think that is what the new law is supposed to do about Wall Street, Banks, mortgage companies; put them under tight scrutiny. But the Republicans will do all they can to get that law overturned.

In the meantime, we can let our elected Congressmen and women know what we think about them and their behaviors!!!

[Medusa]

Mike Huckabee, the oaf from Arkansas who wants to run for Prez again in 2012, is calling for the execution of the Wikileaks source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_789964.html

[Corkey]

Holy shit and this from a "pastor". I truly fear for our country.

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Holy shit and this from a "pastor". I truly fear for our country.

Yeah, this dude is the epitome of fat old White guy who claims to be a "humane Christian" but advocates DEATH for someone who leaked the truth. He's also a GIANT Homophobe, sexist pig, and pompous overgroan knuckle-dragging idiot. (was that my outl loud voice?)

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Yeah, this dude is the epitome of fat old White guy who claims to be a "humane Christian" but advocates DEATH for someone who leaked the truth. He's also a GIANT Homophobe, sexist pig, and pompous overgroan knuckle-dragging idiot. (was that my outl loud voice?)

Yes, and I couldn't agree more.

[Corkey]

And the Senate failed to pass unemployment extension. Way to go cowards!

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by Corkey

And the Senate failed to pass unemployment extension. Way to go cowards!

Oh but they will try to convince "the American people" that it's all Obama's fault because he "doesnt care about the working man" and "wants to kill Gramma" and "btw, did you know he wasnt born in this country!" and I heard that he eats live kittens for breakfast every morning AND he's the ANTICHRIST!

[JustJo]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Oh but they will try to convince "the American people" that it's all Obama's fault because he "doesnt care about the working man" and "wants to kill Gramma" and "btw, did you know he wasnt born in this country!" and I heard that he eats live kittens for breakfast every morning AND he's the ANTICHRIST!

Oh Medusa, don't exaggerate...he only eats one kitten for breakfast

[MsTinkerbelly]

BREAKING: Senate Republicans refuse to vote on DADT repeal before tax cuts
by Andy Kelley

Senate Republicans have delivered a letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid stating that they will not allow a vote on any piece of legislation coming before the Senate, without an extension of the Bush tax cuts. This news comes as the Senate prepares further hearings on the National Defense Authorization Act, which contains language to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

As Metro Weekly reports, the letter from Senate Republicans states:

[W]e write to inform you that we will not agree to invoke cloture on the motion to proceed to any legislative item until the Senate has acted to fund the government and we have prevented the tax increase that is currently awaiting all American taxpayers…

With little time left in this Congressional session, legislative scheduling should be focused on these critical priorities. While there are other items that might ultimately be worthy of the Senate’s attention, we cannot agree to prioritize any matters above the critical issues of funding the government and preventing a job-killing tax hike.

Efforts to link the Bush tax cuts to the NDAA are the latest in a thinly veiled series of efforts by GOP Republicans to bring the lame-duck Senate to a halt.

But this time, this obstructionism could spell disastrous results for the repeal of DADT. As the Washington Blade notes:

The letter is signed by all 42 members of the Republican caucus, including those who are seen as swing votes on moving forward with “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” such as Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.). Newly seated Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) is also among the signers.

Aubrey Sarvis, Executive Director of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network responded to this news directly stating:

The Republican caucus that has expressed strong support for a vote on extending the Bush era tax cuts should be as equally unified in support of a vote in the lame-duck session on the nation’s defense bill, the very bill which provides for our security and the well being of service members who defend us every day,” he said in the statement. “It’s past time for those Republican senators who say they support a vote on the defense bill and repeal to show it with a vote, and not by words alone…

After twenty-three months of excuses and delays in this Congress, it’s time to vote. If Republicans or Democrats use ‘procedure’ and the tax bill as excuses for not voting that is the very same as voting no. A no vote when Reid calls the repeal vote will not only put senators on the wrong side of history, it will also put them in opposition to the overwhelming majority of those who serve in our armed forces and the most senior members of our military.

I for one, agree with Aubrey. The time for the Senate to act has come, and we cannot afford their newest distraction.

We will continue to bring you updates here as this story develops

[dreadgeek]

1) This item from Talking Points Memo: "We've been very involved in CPAC for over a decade and have managed a couple of popular sessions. However, we will no longer be involved with CPAC because of the organization's financial mismanagement and movement away from conservative principles," said Tom McClusky, senior vice president for FRC Action.

"CWA [Concerned Women for America] has decided not to participate in part because of GOProud," CWA President Penny Nance told WND. [Ed. note: Penny Nance's title is chief executive officer of CWA. Another individual, Wendy Wright, holds the title of president.]

This regarding CWA and FRC as well as WorldNet Daily saying that they are pulling out of CPAC (Conservative Political Action Committee) this year because GOProud is being allowed to attend and set up a booth.

2) Having covered "we're conservative and hate gays"* now to the "we're conservative and look, the non-white people are coming right at us!".

The good news is that the right-wing isn't talking about President Obama being a secret Muslim right now. The bad news is that they're now concerned that he's going to use his honorary status as a Crow Tribe Indian to return the United States to Native Americans.

The outrage began after the President announced on December 16 that the U.S. would reverse course and support the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People. The Declaration was adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 2007, but the U.S., under President Bush, opposed it.

"The aspirations it affirms -- including the respect for the institutions and rich cultures of Native peoples -- are ones we must always seek to fulfill," the President said of the Declaration at White House Tribal Nations Conference where he announced the reversal. He went on to describe efforts to improve health care, education, and unemployment rates in tribal areas.

"While the declaration is not legally binding, it carries considerable moral and political force," the State Department wrote of the Declaration, "and complements the President's ongoing efforts to address historical inequities faced by indigenous communities in the United States."

Despite this, the right has seized onto some of the language to attack the President -- including Article 26, which says:

1. Indigenous peoples have the right to the lands, territories and resources which they have traditionally owned, occupied or otherwise used or acquired.
2. Indigenous peoples have the right to own, use, develop and control the lands, territories and resources that they possess by reason of traditional ownership or other traditional occupation or use, as well as those which they have otherwise acquired.
3. States shall give legal recognition and protection to these lands, territories and resources. Such recognition shall be conducted with due respect to the customs, traditions and land tenure systems of the indigenous peoples concerned.
Obama was adopted as an honorary member of the Crow tribe during the 2008 campaign, and was even given the name "One who helps people throughout the land." Most of the outrage lobbed at the President in the wake of the announcement, naturally, references that fact.

Last week, the "Director of Issues Analysis" for the Christian conservative American Family Association, Brian Fischer, wrote a blog post claiming that "President Obama wants to give the entire land mass of the United States of America back to the Indians. He wants Indian tribes to be our new overlords."

"Perhaps he figures that, as an adopted Crow Indian, he will be the new chief over this revived Indian empire," Fischer wrote. "But for the other 312 million of us, I think we'll settle for our constitutional 'We the people' form of government, thank you very much."

Yesterday, the right-wing blog World Net Daily took it a step further in a post called "Obama to give Manhattan back to Native Americans? President believes nation can spare some sovereignty." The article describes how "President Obama is voicing support for a U.N. resolution that could accomplish something as radical as relinquishing some U.S. sovereignty and opening a path for the return of ancient tribal lands to American Indians, including even parts of Manhattan."

Yes, Virginia, this is REALLY happening in the United States.

*Just because it is, for some reason, necessary to say this (although it shouldn't be): my statement is not meant to imply that all conservatives hate gays or that all liberals are filled with sweetness, light and moral perfection. However, we ARE talking about conservative groups, pulling out of a conservative event because of the presence of queers. Trying to pretend that the same thing happens with liberal groups is just nonsense.

Cheers
Aj

[waxnrope]

That shut makes me fighting mad. Then, I stop. Who believes it and why? Gawd, we need to move the government to urgently revamp the disaster which is public education. To commit to curricula inclusive of critical thinking.

[theoddz]

The following is a very interesting editorial article where the commentator explores what would happen if the State of Texas were to succeed from the United States, as some of its more conservative, radical right wingers have suggested. It's quite the interesting read, really.

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149...y/?page=entire

Comments??

It makes me really wonder what these so called "Conservatives" who aren't wealthy, but who are actually what might be considered "poor" or socioeconomically below the middle class line would do, if they got what they *think* they want.

~Theo~