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The missing subject in Arab uprisings

Published Tuesday, Apr. 05, 2011


There is much about the Middle East that needs changing. It was always a matter of time, for example, before the people would rise up and demand freedom. But we have yet to see the leaders of the uprisings make a forceful case to address one of the most serious problems in the region: the routine abuse, harassment and even the brutalization of women.

The subject gained attention when CBS correspondent Lara Logan was hospitalized following a "sustained sexual assault and beating" while covering celebrations of the fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Back then, some blame-the-victim observers said perhaps women should not cover such events, or maybe Logan was not dressed appropriately.

The incident brought to mind a mind-boggling conversation I had years ago while working in Cairo. My Egyptian colleague, normally a forward-looking man, insisted that a woman who doesn't dress modestly has only herself to blame if men rape her. I had not heard that outrageous argument in decades, and my Egyptian friend had never heard the view that nothing excuses rape. He ultimately agreed, leading me to conclude that a determined education campaign might change attitudes, at least among part of the population.

For now, reformers have not made the cause of women's rights prominent in their demands because the attitudes that cause the problem are endemic in the population, not just in the regimes they seek to change. But if progressive leaders want to improve life for everyone, women's rights should figure at the top of their agenda. Many throughout the region fervently hope conditions for women will improve.

How women dress, incidentally, has absolutely nothing to do with the problem. Studies in Egypt have shown that the overwhelming majority of Egyptian women have been harassed, and most of them were wearing Islamic headscarves at the time of the abuse. But sexual harassment is the least of it.

Even in the New Egypt, we hear reports of women being arrested, tortured and subjected to "virginity exams" in view of soldiers. The region is rife with honor killings of the victims of sexual crimes. Genital mutilation continues and, to different degrees, discrimination against women is the order of the day in every single Arab country.

Women are in for "special" treatment in every situation. When a team of New York Times journalists was detained in Libya, the woman photographer among them was repeatedly groped by her captors. And we still don't know the fate of Eman al-Obeidy, the Libyan woman who managed to tell foreign reporters she had been raped by 15 men while in custody, even as she struggled with security forces who pulled a black hood over her head and drove her away.

In Saudi Arabia, women have been told yet again that they will not be allowed to vote in upcoming municipal elections. It's no wonder. They are still banned from driving, working, or traveling without a man's permission. The mere suggestion of such rules would cause women to riot in other countries.

In the desert kingdom, courageous women inspired by actions in neighboring nations, have joined to form the Saudi Women's Revolution. They demand equality and are asking the rest of the world to support them.
The Arab Middle East - and Egypt in particular - act as a beacon that guides customs and beliefs in other Muslim countries, where mistreatment can reach horrifying, infuriating depths.

A few days ago, in Bangladesh, a 14-year-old girl named Hena was beaten and raped. As a result, she was accused and found guilty of adultery by the village Imam, who issued a fatwa, a religious ruling sentencing her to 100 lashes for her transgression, whatever that was.

Hena managed to withstand 70 lashes before collapsing and requiring hospitalization. She died of her injuries. An autopsy, incredibly, ruled her death a suicide.

Attitudes toward women have become infected by the social and political stagnation that the region now wants to shed. A spotlight on women's rights, at this moment, could have a powerful impact throughout the Muslim world.

Women are part of the movement that overthrew regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and many of their male comrades-in-revolution share the urgency of their plight. Demands for democracy and efforts to institute liberal reforms should include a special focus on women. Democracy advocates, enlisting the support of moderate Muslims, could improve hundreds of millions of lives and move their countries forward by insisting, not a moment too soon, on full rights for women.

ABOUT THE WRITER

Frida Ghitis writes about global affairs for The Miami Herald. Readers may send her e-mail at fjghitis@gmail.com.


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Hillary Clinton Photoshopped Out of Situation Room Photo


Ultra Orthodox Hasidic newspaper Der Tzitung is telling its readers like it isn't- by editing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from the now-iconic Bin Laden raid Situation Room photo. Oy vey.

The religious paper never publishes pictures of women, as they could be considered "sexually suggestive." Apparently the presence of a woman, any woman, being all womanly and sexy all over the United States' counterterrorism efforts was too much for the editors of Der Tzitung to handle.

While saving precious vulnerable men from being driven mad with desire over the image of a woman may be in line with Der Tzitung's editors' ideas of piety, Jewish Week's Rabbi Jason Miller points out that the altered image violates a central tenet of the faith,

Der Tzitung edited Hillary Clinton out of the photo, thereby changing history. To my mind, this act of censorship is actually a violation of the Jewish legal principle of g'neivat da'at (deceit).

Der Tzitung plans on printing the following retraction in its next edition: <--(not really sure what this means...couldn't find what/where retraction)



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This official photograph was released from the White House and includes the following disclaimer after the caption: "This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."

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The missing subject in Arab uprisings

Published Tuesday, Apr. 05, 2011


There is much about the Middle East that needs changing. It was always a matter of time, for example, before the people would rise up and demand freedom. But we have yet to see the leaders of the uprisings make a forceful case to address one of the most serious problems in the region: the routine abuse, harassment and even the brutalization of women.

The subject gained attention when CBS correspondent Lara Logan was hospitalized following a "sustained sexual assault and beating" while covering celebrations of the fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Back then, some blame-the-victim observers said perhaps women should not cover such events, or maybe Logan was not dressed appropriately.

The incident brought to mind a mind-boggling conversation I had years ago while working in Cairo. My Egyptian colleague, normally a forward-looking man, insisted that a woman who doesn't dress modestly has only herself to blame if men rape her. I had not heard that outrageous argument in decades, and my Egyptian friend had never heard the view that nothing excuses rape. He ultimately agreed, leading me to conclude that a determined education campaign might change attitudes, at least among part of the population.

For now, reformers have not made the cause of women's rights prominent in their demands because the attitudes that cause the problem are endemic in the population, not just in the regimes they seek to change. But if progressive leaders want to improve life for everyone, women's rights should figure at the top of their agenda. Many throughout the region fervently hope conditions for women will improve.

How women dress, incidentally, has absolutely nothing to do with the problem. Studies in Egypt have shown that the overwhelming majority of Egyptian women have been harassed, and most of them were wearing Islamic headscarves at the time of the abuse. But sexual harassment is the least of it.

Even in the New Egypt, we hear reports of women being arrested, tortured and subjected to "virginity exams" in view of soldiers. The region is rife with honor killings of the victims of sexual crimes. Genital mutilation continues and, to different degrees, discrimination against women is the order of the day in every single Arab country.

Women are in for "special" treatment in every situation. When a team of New York Times journalists was detained in Libya, the woman photographer among them was repeatedly groped by her captors. And we still don't know the fate of Eman al-Obeidy, the Libyan woman who managed to tell foreign reporters she had been raped by 15 men while in custody, even as she struggled with security forces who pulled a black hood over her head and drove her away.

In Saudi Arabia, women have been told yet again that they will not be allowed to vote in upcoming municipal elections. It's no wonder. They are still banned from driving, working, or traveling without a man's permission. The mere suggestion of such rules would cause women to riot in other countries.

In the desert kingdom, courageous women inspired by actions in neighboring nations, have joined to form the Saudi Women's Revolution. They demand equality and are asking the rest of the world to support them.
The Arab Middle East - and Egypt in particular - act as a beacon that guides customs and beliefs in other Muslim countries, where mistreatment can reach horrifying, infuriating depths.

A few days ago, in Bangladesh, a 14-year-old girl named Hena was beaten and raped. As a result, she was accused and found guilty of adultery by the village Imam, who issued a fatwa, a religious ruling sentencing her to 100 lashes for her transgression, whatever that was.

Hena managed to withstand 70 lashes before collapsing and requiring hospitalization. She died of her injuries. An autopsy, incredibly, ruled her death a suicide.

Attitudes toward women have become infected by the social and political stagnation that the region now wants to shed. A spotlight on women's rights, at this moment, could have a powerful impact throughout the Muslim world.

Women are part of the movement that overthrew regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and many of their male comrades-in-revolution share the urgency of their plight. Demands for democracy and efforts to institute liberal reforms should include a special focus on women. Democracy advocates, enlisting the support of moderate Muslims, could improve hundreds of millions of lives and move their countries forward by insisting, not a moment too soon, on full rights for women.

ABOUT THE WRITER

Frida Ghitis writes about global affairs for The Miami Herald. Readers may send her e-mail at fjghitis@gmail.com.


http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/05/3528753/the-missing-subject-in-arab-uprisings.html#
I have deep respect for women in this region of the world that speak out about this. They are subject to such brutality, including death.

My grandmother was a suffrigist- crossing both US, UK and western European borders with her fight. She was not an educated woman, actually she could not read or write. I have no idea how she got into the middle-class group of women that led the "First Wave." Yet, I know she did not have the kind of brutal, sadistic, sociopathological kinds of oppression thrown at her like these women. She knew of this- and once said to me- "Maybe someday they will fight back." This was when she was much older and I was the first in our family to attend college and had taken up with those "Bra-Burners." OK, Grandma- they are!! I hope you cane see this.
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Besides Hilary, there was a woman staffer who was removed from the picture.....she was standing in the back

I really wish fundamentalists could understand how damamging this kind of thing is to boys and men. It tells boys/men they have no control over their own sexuality....the mere picture of a fully clothed woman (with no cleavage or arms showing) makes their dicks hard and they have go out and find a woman right now..........that is an ugly messages for boys and men.....
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Published Tuesday, Apr. 05, 2011


There is much about the Middle East that needs changing. It was always a matter of time, for example, before the people would rise up and demand freedom. But we have yet to see the leaders of the uprisings make a forceful case to address one of the most serious problems in the region: the routine abuse, harassment and even the brutalization of women.
Hi Greyson!

Thanks for posting this article last month! I just came across this forum thread today and it reminded me of the hot forum topic from last summer on Misogyny/Sexism in Butch/Femme & LGBTQ communities

(LINK)

I want to author a book on this subject alone... If you (and others here) don't mind, I will excerpt a portion of my forum post on what the above article (authored by Frida Ghitis, from the Miami Herald). I think it is important to keep issues that target female beings in social settings front and center; because dismantling ideological frames that perpetuate these types of institutionalized practices can only lead to a healing of social practices and ideas pertaining to women - locally, nationally & globally.

Excerpting my former statement from last summer:

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My experience with misogyny is rooted in being bombarded by a culture that allows, condones and develops and facilitates distribution of power to those who least deserve to have that type of power or use it wisely.

The theoretical argument I wish to make is that misogyny (hatred of the female species) is based in what I call Misocracy – (def. - a form of governance that condones and facilitates the hatred of females) – a political regime that finds its roots in misogyny.

I conceptualized the term Misocracy because it seems to operate much like Ethnocracy (def.- the systematic discrimination of ethnic groups by the state and minority groups face repressions, violations of human rights at the hand of governance that facilitates such acts). Which to me, Ethnocracy is the antithesis of democracy. A Misocratic society is one that tolerates, facilitates and perpetuates hatred of the female species and over time, the female species, who are submerged (dare I say, water-boarded?) in a female hating culture, it would seem that as a female, we are conditioned to hate ourselves because females are held to standards of hate that no one should have to bear or even be initiated into. It’s only been the last seven years that I work actively on not hating me and not allowing the culture of misogyny or Misocracy to chip away at my female based identity. It’s been difficult though because I have reared two sons and while my own tenets (values and beliefs) have anchored my own existence, I have not always been able to convey with ease to my sons why society at large pressures them to act socially in one way (as males) and why socially dominant ideals and values are not always tolerable.

It’s been a never ending hardship, a drain-circling ‘perfect’ storm, policing my boundaries and making sure that Misocractic norms are not exacted upon me as they always have been, seemingly all my life.

So what antidote is there? What kind of “medicine” will it take to heal Misocracism?

The antidote is complicated and the “medicine” available carries significant commitment to eradicating misogyny in a Misocratic society (a Misocracy). One way to dismantle a Misocracy is to unpack misogyny as we see, hear and experience it and to not tolerate a culture that endorses and utilizes Misocractic agenda. We (the general “we”) do that individually or collectively as member of groups in society or in our social settings – much like this forum thread here, where we work on naming aspects of our lives that are connected to the culture of hating the female species.

So, for now, this is what I have been wanting to say about how I perceive misogyny and the place that is has had in my life and how I work on eradicating this egregious stain from my life.

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Ultra Orthodox Hasidic newspaper Der Tzitung is telling its readers like it isn't- by editing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from the now-iconic Bin Laden raid Situation Room photo. Oy vey.

The religious paper never publishes pictures of women, as they could be considered "sexually suggestive." Apparently the presence of a woman, any woman, being all womanly and sexy all over the United States' counterterrorism efforts was too much for the editors of Der Tzitung to handle.

While saving precious vulnerable men from being driven mad with desire over the image of a woman may be in line with Der Tzitung's editors' ideas of piety, Jewish Week's Rabbi Jason Miller points out that the altered image violates a central tenet of the faith,

Der Tzitung edited Hillary Clinton out of the photo, thereby changing history. To my mind, this act of censorship is actually a violation of the Jewish legal principle of g'neivat da'at (deceit).

Der Tzitung plans on printing the following retraction in its next edition: <--(not really sure what this means...couldn't find what/where retraction)


That's disgusting.
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Besides Hilary, there was a woman staffer who was removed from the picture.....she was standing in the back

I really wish fundamentalists could understand how damamging this kind of thing is to boys and men. It tells boys/men they have no control over their own sexuality....the mere picture of a fully clothed woman (with no cleavage or arms showing) makes their dicks hard and they have go out and find a woman right now..........that is an ugly messages for boys and men.....
I agree. It also erases women from history- in this case the erasure of the Secretary of State and other woman staffer who indeed were there and part of the mission.
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they must not post many pictures of world events. i am thinking i'd find it more acceptable if they said in the caption that Hillary was there, but they photoshopped her out for religious reasons. What annoys me is not the religious prohibition against images of women, but erasing women from history -- and letting hasidic women believe that only men rule the world outside theirs. i am sure they know better. They live in cities, but . . .
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they must not post many pictures of world events. i am thinking i'd find it more acceptable if they said in the caption that Hillary was there, but they photoshopped her out for religious reasons. What annoys me is not the religious prohibition against images of women, but erasing women from history -- and letting hasidic women believe that only men rule the world outside theirs. i am sure they know better. They live in cities, but . . .
hmm...it really DOES annoy me that they photoshopped her (and, apparently, another woman...nods to Toughy) out b/c of religious prohibitions against images of women AND, thereby, erasing women from history.

I am not a cultural relativist, though. (not saying you are)
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Hasidic Newspaper Explains Why It Airbrushed Out Hillary Clinton

Irin Carmon — Di Tzeitung, the Hasidic newspaper that Photoshopically removed Hillary Clinton and Audrey Tomason from the famous situation room photo, has explained its actions as follows:

Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the "fine print" that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes. We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department.

The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel. The current Secretary of State, the Honorable Hillary R. Clinton, was a Senator representing New York State with great distinction 8 years. She won overwhelming majorities in the Orthodox Jewish communities in her initial campaign in '00, and when she was re-elected in '06, because the religious community appreciated her unique capabilities and compassion to all communities. The Jewish religion does not allow for discrimination based on gender, race, etc. We respect all government officials. We even have special prayers for the welfare of our Government and the government leaders, and there is no mention of gender in such prayers.

In accord with our religious beliefs, we do not publish photos of women, which in no way relegates them to a lower status. Publishing a newspaper is a big responsibility, and our policies are guided by a Rabbinical Board. Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women, which is certainly never our intention. We apologize if this was seen as offensive.

It's not only this paper that is consistent on this front; in Israel, ultra-Orthodox papers don't publish photos of Kadima party leader Tzipi Livi, nor use her first name. In one newspaper photo, the two out of 30 cabinet ministers that happened to be female were replaced with a black hole.
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God, a black hole. If that's not symbolic. . .

But i think that's better than photoshopping. i mean, say the Secy of State was there, say that whatever her name was there, and you have just removed their images. That's at least better than what seems like a lie, like pretending they weren't there.
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The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel.

Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women
WTF??

They respect women SO MUCH, they can't actually discuss their achievements in the local media! *Head spin*
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They respect women SO MUCH, they can't actually discuss their achievements in the local media! *Head spin*
i am not sure they can't. In fact i bet they do discuss Hillary's work and did particularly when she was the U.S. Senator for New York. Didn't something we read say they had done this once before to Hillary when she was meeting with some Hasidic rabbis?

The point is the article probably talked about the Senator meeting with Rabbi So and So, etc. They just didn't show her picture.
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The pic without Hilary Clinton in it has a big, gaping hole. I guess that laptop is just sitting there for a ghost.

WTF does modesty have to do with reporting news. If you can't report news accurately then don't report it at all.
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The pic without Hilary Clinton in it has a big, gaping hole. I guess that laptop is just sitting there for a ghost.

WTF does modesty have to do with reporting news. If you can't report news accurately then don't report it at all.
Small newspapers are ways that communities maintain themselves. They do not report all the same news or from the same perspective. i do think that photoshopping women out without making sure that their presence is noted is rewriting history without women, which is misrepresenting it. i don't defend their right to do that.

But i think that if they don't want images of women because of their religious beliefs, then they don't have to put them in. Perhaps they should just not include pictures that origninally had women. But they have to struggle with that and the criticism they receive.

i do think it's a freedom of religion issue. It's one of the things i am proudest of about the U.S. If we didn't protect freedom of religion, we would suffer because fundamentalist Christianity would overwhelm parts of our public culture, especially in some regions.

In any case, it's an important basic freedom. Way more important than the fact that you or i might be offended by what they do.
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“Corrective Rape” in South Africa: Not Getting Better

I am sorry that I said this a little while ago, when South African LGBTQ activists met with government leaders to talk about corrective rape, a widespread practice in that region:

There’s no word yet on the outcome of the meeting; it may be too much to hope that all activists’ demands were met. But it’s not too much to hope that with the government finally meeting with LGBT activists, the road may be paved for further efforts to stop corrective rape and diminish its commonality.

I am sorry because things in South Africa have not improved since then. In fact,a recent update shows that the corrective rape problem there is growing, in both numbers and ferocity. This is all occurring in a nation where laws about gay people are a fantasy compared to ours – so it’s part of a heavy societal, and not legislative, backlash against the gay community – and the lesbian community in particular. And it’s an incredibly violent manifestation. The homophobia that’s being experienced is complex: other regions in Africa have had more widespread movements against the gay community, and they appear to be a big influence on this one.

South Africa has a complicated history with respect to homophobia, and colonial rule brought about institutionalized homophobia in the form of laws and gay sex bans. This might be ancient history for the progressive laws of South Africa now, but it sets a tone for anti-gay violence and it is where it originated for the region.

The stories are truly chilling. The contempt, and rage, felt toward the lesbian community in South Africa is pretty devastating:

In South Africa, more than 30 lesbians have been killed in “corrective rape” cases since 1998, yet only one case has resulted in a conviction. By some estimates, at least 10 lesbians are raped or assaulted every week in the Cape Town area alone. In one of the most notorious cases, a gang of men raped and murdered 31-year-old Eudy Simelane, a lesbian who played on South Africa’s national women’s soccer team. She was stabbed 25 times in the face, legs and chest.

According to survivors, the attackers often shout that they are “teaching a lesson” to their lesbian victims, or showing them “how to be a real woman.” Many victims never report the attacks to the police, fearing that they will be mocked or abused.

Even in schools, many young boys believe that lesbians need to be raped to “correct” their sexual orientation, according to the South African Human Rights Commission. “A culture of rape is being passed down to younger generations of South African men,” said a report by ActionAid, an international rights group. “Women are forced to conform to gender stereotypes or suffer the consequences.” [...]

The South African courts and police have been slow to respond to the attacks on lesbians. One court case, involving the murder of 19-year-old Zoliswa Nkonyana by a gang of about 20 men who wanted to “correct” her sexuality, has been postponed 33 times and has dragged on for five years without a resolution.

One case has finally sparked global attention. Millicent Gaika, a 30-year-old lesbian in a township near Cape Town, was raped and beaten for five hours by a man who tried to strangle her with barbed wire. “I know you are a lesbian,” the man told her. “You are not a man. You think you are, but I am going to show you. You are a woman.”

These stories are a reminder, and are proof, that identifying corrective rape as a hate crime would be no understatement. And that’s exactly what the

LGBTQ activists in South Africa are trying to do.
Ndumie Funda is leading the challenge against corrective rape, inspired to do so by the practice’s impact on her fiancee. She herself is in extreme danger, and has faced a brunt of verbal threats. When she formed a human rights organization, she was forced into hiding. But she has not stopped:

While the threat of violence and prison is forcing many African gays to go underground, the war is not over. In a few South African black townships, lesbian volunteers are going door-to-door to raise awareness of their issues. A growing coalition of rights groups is fighting against “corrective rape.” And after the global petition produced so many thousands of e-mails that the government pleaded for it to stop, Ms. Funda and other activists were granted a two-hour meeting with senior Justice Ministry officials on March 14.

The officials promised Ms. Funda that they would take action on the corrective-rape issue, including setting up a meeting with top police commanders. “The meeting was exciting,” she said. “It was great.”

I may have been too hopeful about that meeting, but I stand my ground that these activists are some of the most amazing women in the world. Corrective rape cannot continue, in any region of the world, and these activists have the fire to keep fighting. (All of my heart is with them.)
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http://www.alternet.org/news/150878/..._to_be_a_woman

NEWS & POLITICS AlterNet / By Amanda Marcotte

10 Worst States To Be a Woman

State Republicans have introduced nearly 1,000 laws restricting women's reproductive health access. Here are 10 of the worst states to be a woman between puberty and menopause.
1. Mississippi
2. Texas
3. South Dakota
4. Indiana
5. Oklahoma
6. Kansas
7. Minnesota
8. Georgia
9. Arizona
10. Louisiana


Read about each of the states in the article. It will make your blood boil. Minnesota is the one state that surprised me.
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Small newspapers are ways that communities maintain themselves. They do not report all the same news or from the same perspective. i do think that photoshopping women out without making sure that their presence is noted is rewriting history without women, which is misrepresenting it. i don't defend their right to do that.

But i think that if they don't want images of women because of their religious beliefs, then they don't have to put them in. Perhaps they should just not include pictures that origninally had women. But they have to struggle with that and the criticism they receive.

i do think it's a freedom of religion issue. It's one of the things i am proudest of about the U.S. If we didn't protect freedom of religion, we would suffer because fundamentalist Christianity would overwhelm parts of our public culture, especially in some regions.

In any case, it's an important basic freedom. Way more important than the fact that you or i might be offended by what they do.
And this is part of why I will never relent butting heads with religion.

Religious freedom is all fine and dandy, but I do not think religious beliefs should ever take precedence over the rights of individual human beings to be acknowledged for the achievements, their right to go about their lives just like everyone else etc.

Religion, whether or not the religious like to admit it, is a choice as well as a cultural issue (being raised a certain religion, f.ex.) Women, men, those in between, various races and ethnicities, sexual orientations, gender identities, disabilities and so on...these are things people have no choice in. They are born as they are born and does not determine their own opinions and perspectives. A religious choice should not take precedence over a woman's right to be acknowledged for her own achievements. Misogynist religious beliefs should not be permitted to simply write women out of the public sphere or politics out of convenience or in the name of "religious freedom" without legal repercussions. Personally, I think every nation should have media laws put in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening. The press should not be permitted to knowingly mislead the public.
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