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More than 250 people underwent medical and dental procedures, some of them from "Dr. Tebow," who has no formal surgical training.

"The first time, it was nerve-racking," he said. "Hands were shaking a little bit. I mean, I'm cutting somebody. You can't do those kinds of things in the United States. But those people really needed the surgeries. We needed to help them."...

Tebow helped with the last few circumcisions, growing more comfortable with each one.

"I got a kick watching him," Bob Tebow said. "He did a great job, and he didn't look really nervous. I wouldn't let him cut on me, but he did well and helped where there was a need."


I wouldn't let him cut on me...but some poor, foreign kids? Why the hell not? I'm a little disappointed that Tebow even had to use a scalpel. I would have thought that the Heisman winner would have only needed to scowl at the penises and the foreskin would have leapt off in fright.


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No, it's not. Other organizations have tried to purchase SB ads and have been refused.

This not about a dollar will buy anything. It's about denying organizations like PETA and MoveOn SB air time, but allowing it for radical christians.
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[I]Here's hoping Tim Tebow knows what he's getting into, though. Does Tim Tebow know that he's supporting an organization that has called gay marriage perverted and has said that homosexuals want to destroy human civilization?
Almost certainly he does, to the degree he thinks about that at all.

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Again, almost certainly.

One of the things that I think we forget is that the anti-choice movement is also a profoundly anti-sex movement. They believe that sex is sinful EXCEPT in the context of a heterosexual couple and then only when the man is calling the shots and the woman is complying at which point pretty much anything goes. The pro-choice movement would do well to remind the voting public of this.

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More than 250 people underwent medical and dental procedures, some of them from "Dr. Tebow," who has no formal surgical training.

"The first time, it was nerve-racking," he said. "Hands were shaking a little bit. I mean, I'm cutting somebody. You can't do those kinds of things in the United States. But those people really needed the surgeries. We needed to help them."...

Tebow helped with the last few circumcisions, growing more comfortable with each one.

"I got a kick watching him," Bob Tebow said. "He did a great job, and he didn't look really nervous. I wouldn't let him cut on me, but he did well and helped where there was a need."


I wouldn't let him cut on me...but some poor, foreign kids? Why the hell not? I'm a little disappointed that Tebow even had to use a scalpel. I would have thought that the Heisman winner would have only needed to scowl at the penises and the foreskin would have leapt off in fright.


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This not about a dollar will buy anything. It's about denying organizations like PETA and MoveOn SB air time, but allowing it for radical christians.
Anyone else remember this United Church of Christ ad which was banned from the superbowl a few years ago?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH04hj1Q_IM"]YouTube- United Church of Christ - Bouncer[/ame]
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Anyone else remember this United Church of Christ ad which was banned from the superbowl a few years ago?
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Wow ... I never heard anything about that ad, and I grew up UCC. It's hugely more appropriate for general viewing than an anti-abortion ad. And Tebow? WTF is he doing performing genital mutilation on poor kids and being praised and encouraged for this? That is so messed up.
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Almost certainly he does, to the degree he thinks about that at all.



If I were a betting woman (which I'm not) I'd put better than even odds that, in fact, he does.



Again, almost certainly.

One of the things that I think we forget is that the anti-choice movement is also a profoundly anti-sex movement. They believe that sex is sinful EXCEPT in the context of a heterosexual couple and then only when the man is calling the shots and the woman is complying at which point pretty much anything goes. The pro-choice movement would do well to remind the voting public of this.

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I don't forget that (underlined part) and agree with all your answers to the questions that change.org posed.

He's all about flaunting his virginity and biblical verses, (until a suitable heterosexual wife/marriage occurs) and it is unsurprising that he is connected to and wishes to espouse the rhetoric of the anti-choice movement.
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HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

I truly believe their minds would change should something (unfortunately) happen to one of their children. Say for example, one of their children was a victim of a violent rape. Would they condone that pregnancy? What if it was incest? What if it the pregnancy threatened the life of the birth mother?

How DARE anyone believe they have the right to tell me (or anyone else) what to do with my own body? They have NO RIGHT dammit.

Shame shame shame on anyone that financially benefits from this. And the Super Bowl no less. It takes alot to get me to the point where I verbally express my anger, however, when I do, I have the ability to chew you up and spit you out into the gutter you crawled out from. I know NO fear. This topic is so irritating to me that I don't believe I could physically be in the company of anyone that feels so strongly they have the right to tell a complete stranger what to do with their own bodies.
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I just read CBS has received numerous calls and emails both critical and supportive of it's abortion ad. They said they would welcome more advocacy ads. You can read the story here.
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Tim Tebow is the second coming of the Christ child according to most Florida fans. If you ask them, he single-handedly delivered two BCS championships, won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and just one touch from Tebow can heal leprosy or rickets. There’s no doubt that Tebow is a magnificent ball player. He’s a great role model, a leader and a very public proponent of abstinence until marriage. I have to applaud the dude’s tenacity in that arena. I can only imagine the legions of women who have thrown themselves at Tim Tebow’s cleats.

Like any admirable young man, he loves his mother. He loves his mother so much that he’s going to appear with her in an ad during the Super Bowl on CBS. Evidently, while on a Christian mission trip to the Philippines in 1987, Pam Tebow got sick while pregnant with her fifth child. Doctors counseled her to have an abortion. She refused and Tim Tebow was born.

All abortion debate aside, that is a heartwarming story. Tebow is a fine young man with amazing prospects. His leadership and squeaky clean image are a welcome change in a world of sports stars who work games into their schedules between weapons arrests and affairs. We do need more Tim Tebows in the world.

But, in spite of the message, many believe that this anti-abortion ad has no place in the commercial line-up on Super Bowl Sunday. My first yellow flag was thrown when I saw who sponsored the ad. This isn’t Nike saying, “Just Do It.” This is Focus on the Family – a conservative Christian group. The funds for the ad, according to Focus on the Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger, came from “very generous friends” rather than the group’s general fund. One thirty second commercial during the Super Bowl is selling for $2.5 - $2.8 million.

Schneeberger was “a little surprised” that the proposed ad has caused a furor. The Women’s Media Center’s Jemhu Greene says, “An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year – an event designed to bring Americans together.” She went on to say, “By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers.”

As election seasons stretch out to cover 90% of the year, it’s conceivable that instead of seeing flatulent horses selling Budweiser, we could soon be seeing many more ads bought by political action committees at the Super Bowl. Furthermore, with the recent Supreme Court ruling about corporate political funding, we could soon be seeing “Proposition 8 – Brought to you by Sarah Palin for President and Pepsi. Palin & Pepsi – two great tastes that taste great together!”

I’m sure that Focus on the Family believes that this is not an anti-abortion message on the surface. Instead, they are reminding every woman who is in the heartbreaking position of terminating a pregnancy for any reason that they could be “killing” a Heisman trophy winner. The worst of this for me is that Tebow’s mother is sending the message that women should ignore the advice of their doctors and continue any and all pregnancies, no matter what the peril may be to their own lives.

If Tebow and his mother were telling a different story, perhaps one where she thought she didn’t have the money for another child or she was pregnant out of wedlock, I’d shake my head and say, “There’s another anti-choice ad riding on the backs of someone’s fame and money.” But, this ad actually endangers the lives of women. How many women, just like me, who are told that they might die if they continue a pregnancy, will refuse abortions because they are reminded that the baby they have could be a star?

Football fame is powerful stuff in the south, as is religion and the Focus on the Family group. There is a distinct possibility that women will die because of this ad. It has no place in the Super Bowl or anywhere else. Considering Focus on the Family’s deep association with Rev. Ted Haggard's prostitution and drug scandal, it appears that they would do best to focus on their own families for once.
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I wonder if the Courage Campaign will sponsor a similar ad.

After all, I'm adopted and the Christ Camp thinks that is an easy answer.

My bio mom (whoever she is) can tell the world that this blonde in a pony outfit could have been murdered. Behold. I've gone on to the the best damn Queer that I can be.

Wipes a tear.

I feel so inspirational. I mean, I made it all the way through Catholic High School and abstained from being a heterosexual.

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Just a few quick thoughts here, as someone who is intimately connected to the sports world.

First off, I think it's asinine that people put athletes on a pedestal and demand they be role models. BUT, since they do, I have to say that Tim Tebow is certainly a good one for that. Believe me, sports journalists have long wanted to debunk the TT mystique as he seems to be too good to be true.

As for this ad, it just made me cringe when I saw it come across the wires --- for all the reasons everyone has already stated. I was looking for the CBS story on how it has relaxed its standards (conveniently now, not a few years ago), but Ezee had already posted it.

The biggest thing I see is is this: the only way to fight it, it seems, is fire with fire. Some pro-choice group should pony up and go with a counter ad. CBS would be hypocritcal to not air it, as well. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen and all the rhetoric in the world from those groups won't erase the lasting images of this ad.
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Just a few quick thoughts here, as someone who is intimately connected to the sports world.

First off, I think it's asinine that people put athletes on a pedestal and demand they be role models. BUT, since they do, I have to say that Tim Tebow is certainly a good one for that. Believe me, sports journalists have long wanted to debunk the TT mystique as he seems to be too good to be true.

As for this ad, it just made me cringe when I saw it come across the wires --- for all the reasons everyone has already stated. I was looking for the CBS story on how it has relaxed its standards (conveniently now, not a few years ago), but Ezee had already posted it.

The biggest thing I see is is this: the only way to fight it, it seems, is fire with fire. Some pro-choice group should pony up and go with a counter ad. CBS would be hypocritical to not air it, as well. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen and all the rhetoric in the world from those groups won't erase the lasting images of this ad.
maybe we should gather together and sponsor a pro-gay marriage ad....see how the religious right like our ad and theirs running back to back.....
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Call on CBS to Drop Focus on the Family Super Bowl Ad

CBS cleared the way to subject nearly 100 million people to Focus on the Family’s extreme agenda by agreeing to air its new pro-life ad during the Super Bowl.

Focus on the Family has an unmistakable anti-choice, anti-birth-control, anti-sex-education, anti-gay agenda. If that wasn’t bad enough, its views on women are just plain insulting and dangerous. For example, its web site urges women facing an unintended pregnancy to seek “wise advice” because “the hormones and extreme emotions of pregnancy make reasonable decisions more difficult.”

We can’t just sit by while CBS lets Focus on the Family place a political ad during the Super Bowl, when millions of people are watching ads.

CBS still has time to change course if enough of us apply pressure. Urge CBS to drop Focus on the Family’s ad.
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Focus on the Family['s] .... web site urges women facing an unintended pregnancy to seek “wise advice” because “the hormones and extreme emotions of pregnancy make reasonable decisions more difficult.”



I actually just read this section from FF's website...unbelievable.
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