Politics: The Dark Ages edition

[apretty]

Originally Posted by MsMerrick

Well no, but Insurance mild reform...
Health Care and Insurance, are not synonymous

yes i realize that, i thought that was understood? either way, thanks.

[apretty]

babies can't be denied insurance due to pre-existing conditions (soon)! yay!

[MsMerrick]

Originally Posted by apretty

yes i realize that, i thought that was understood? either way, thanks.

Actually no, people seem to be confusing the two things, over and over again

[Medusa]

(tongue in cheek) Another Texas Republican moment:

"Babykiller" commenter revealed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_508525.html

[apretty]

Originally Posted by MsMerrick

Actually no, people seem to be confusing the two things, over and over again

what's your point?

[WILDCAT]

Originally Posted by Medusa

(tongue in cheek) Another Texas Republican moment:

"Babykiller" commenter revealed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_508525.html

Why, decorum at it's best!

This is where I have to wonder what the ol' lion Ed Kennedy would be growling out right about now - about all of these nasty shitty antics and extreme displays of disrespect being shown.

Folks should be called out to STEP THE FUCK DOWN! Spitting?! Racist name calling?

I can just imagine how folks from afar are "calling this"?!
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Out of control nuts? Deliverance folk? Dumb like a fox?! (Or, "d": all of the above?) Where's Dick when you need a good hunter?!

Just thinking out loud here! Disgusted with what I have been seeing taking place since our first POC president has been sworn in... this "movement" of hate and discrimination. It both sickens and saddens me.

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Yes, this a step in a direction regarding the massive insurance problems and corruption! Among some other necessary changes needed...

And "holy fucking help us all" if this president - representing this party, is instrumental AT ALL in creating any positive change that has been so badly needed, (problems that have contributed to the position we now find ourselves in financially and economically with our government/country)!!
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Also I'm thinking: for example... is helping children/families a bad socialist, communist concept now?! Since when? (Or, so very [NOT] "christian" like...? And "evil" works for me just fine here with these fanatics!)

Such headfucking. I've grown weary... I do feel a smidgeon hopeful tonight though. Gridlock is depressing. Gridlock with non-solicited "rioting", much more disturbing. Let the fools bury theirselves now!

And, there will be such ongoing criticisms and mistruths. I'm gettin' braced for it! Round 2 (or 3, or 9?), bring it on! (Please, find your spine Dems!)







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[MsMerrick]

Originally Posted by apretty

what's your point?

That having Insurance, doesn't mean you get Health Care. Its the insane For Profit Insurance Industry that needed an overhaul, and didn't get one.

[Diva]

Originally Posted by Medusa

(tongue in cheek) Another Texas Republican moment:

"Babykiller" commenter revealed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_508525.html

Yes. How embarrassing. I wrote him a letter which I quoted on the Health Care Bill thread over there ~ ~ ~ >

I told him he should check his Baptist tongue. Once again.....another conservative Texas republican who should have kept his head planted firmly where the sun doesn't shine.....

[Soon]

New GOP Poll Shows Scary Results

The Harris poll says that two thirds of Republicans (40% of Americans) believe that President Obama is a socialist. 57% (32% overall) believe that he is a Muslim, and 45% (25% overall) believe that he was not born in this country.

The scariest statistic though, is that 24% of Republicans believe that Obama is the antichrist.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

New GOP Poll Shows Scary Results

The Harris poll says that two thirds of Republicans (40% of Americans) believe that President Obama is a socialist. 57% (32% overall) believe that he is a Muslim, and 45% (25% overall) believe that he was not born in this country.

The scariest statistic though, is that 24% of Republicans believe that Obama is the antichrist.

The antichrist number doesn't bother me so much; you're talking about 5% of the population. I'd assume that at least 5% of the population is in the religious wing-nut camp and that they assume anything that they don't like is the antichrist.

I find the other numbers much more disturbing. 40% of Americans have no idea of what Socialism is, and 25% prefer to believe lies spewed by Faux Newz and other wing-nuts to clear and documented facts about the President's birthplace. Don't even get me started on the glaring inability to apply the most basic of logic to the 32% who think he's Muslim while at the same time blasting him for attending Rev. Wright's Christian church.

This country needs a serious overhaul of it's educational system. Oh, wait, education is elitist. Sorry, my bad.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Don't even get me started on the glaring inability to apply the most basic of logic to the 32% who think he's Muslim while at the same time blasting him for attending Rev. Wright's Christian church.

This country needs a serious overhaul of it's educational system. Oh, wait, education is elitist. Sorry, my bad.

i have been teaching Islam for a week. The kids are interested even though my bigoted co-teacher makes snarky comments from the back of the room. Anyway, my kids are going to know what Islam is, but they are also going to know that Mr. O hates Muslims.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Martina

i have been teaching Islam for a week. The kids are interested even though my bigoted co-teacher makes snarky comments from the back of the room. Anyway, my kids are going to know what Islam is, but they are also going to know that Mr. O hates Muslims.

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Good for you! And throw in a lesson on religious bigotry and its relationship to racism! And our example of this is our own.....[/FONT]

[UofMfan]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

New GOP Poll Shows Scary Results

The Harris poll says that two thirds of Republicans (40% of Americans) believe that President Obama is a socialist. 57% (32% overall) believe that he is a Muslim, and 45% (25% overall) believe that he was not born in this country.

The scariest statistic though, is that 24% of Republicans believe that Obama is the antichrist.

What the poll shows me is the average educational background and IQ of Republicans.

[MsDemeanor]

We now know where all this window-breaking came from. Seems that some former militiaman posted a call for followers to break the windows of Democratic leaders.

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[AtLast]

Yes, DARK AGES!!! This is plain infantile!! These public servants do receive paychecks from us!! I have really had it with these idiots!! They are obstructing a hell of a lot more than the health-care reform reconciliation bill! This is interfering with what is happening with our troops- you know, the ones that have their lives on the line! ENOUGH!!!


Please join me in writing letters, emails making phone calls... whatever to both the GOP & Dems and let them know they are being remiss in their duties (job)! If you have family/friends serving in the military in Afghanistan or Iraq, it seems that this kind of behavior could put your loved ones in jeopardy if it continues. The health-care reforms are not the only business of the Senate!! How many of us can just quit the day early and not get penalized for doing so?

GOP Senators Refusing To Work Past 2PM, Invoking Obscure Rule

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/gop-senators-refusing-to_n_511639.html


Senate Republicans fuming over the passage of health care reform are now refusing to work past 2 p.m. -- a tactic they can employ by invoking a little-known Senate rule.

On Wednesday, the Judiciary Committee was forced to cancel a hearing as was the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) tweeted today : "Disappointed. Rs refusing to allow hearings today. Had to cancel my oversight hearing on police training contracts in Afghanistan."
Sen. Mark Udall also complained that he had to delay a hearing on the cause of Western forest fires.
Making good on Sen. John McCain's threat to withhold all Republican cooperation from Democrats in the Senate in retribution for the majority party using reconciliation to pass health care reform, the GOP used the rule that states committees can only meet when the chamber is in session with the unanimous consent of all members. That consent has almost never been withheld -- until now.
Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) asked for consent for his panel to operate Wednesday afternoon. He noted, ironically, that his request had the support of McCain.
"There is objection on our side of the aisle and therefore I object," said Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.).
The GOP objection blocked testimony from Admiral Robert Willard, United States Navy Commander of the U.S. Pacific Command; from General Kevin Chilton, United States Air Force, Commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, and from General Walter Sharp, United States Army Commander, U.S. Forces Korea.



For his part, Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) was livid when his committee was forced to delay consideration of several judicial nominees.
"I have accommodated requests from Judiciary Committee Republicans to delay the Committee's hearing to consider Professor Liu's nomination," Leahy said.
He continued: "For months, Senate Republicans have resisted efforts to enact important reforms to our health insurance system. But when the dust settles and the emotions are calmed, history will show that President Obama and this Congress responded to a pressing national issue, and proved once again that we can act with the purpose of advancing an important national interest. Sadly, actions like today's objections from Senate Republicans to the consideration of a highly qualified, historic nominee will be viewed as little more than petty, partisan politics."
Jim Manley, a spokesperson for Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), objected to the objection. "For a second straight day, Republicans are using tricks to shut down several key Senate committees. So let me get this straight: in retaliation for our efforts to have an up-or-down vote to improve health care reform, Republicans are blocking an Armed Services committee hearing to discuss critical national security issues among other committee meetings? These political games and obstruction have to stop -- the American people expect and deserve better."

Without unanimous consent, committees are allowed to meet for two hours following the opening of the Senate session -- which on Wednesday was 9:00 a.m. The committees need consent to continue and consent again to continue after 2:00 p.m. Sen. Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Chairman of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, had his hearing shut down abruptly at 11:00 Wednesday morning, in the middle of a discussion on the effort to end veteran homelessness in the next five years. It is estimated that more than 100,000 veterans are homeless in the United States on any given night.
"The Senate should be a place for debate, but I cannot imagine how shutting down a hearing on helping homeless veterans has any part of the debate on the health insurance reform," said Akaka. "I am deeply disappointed that my colleagues chose to hinder our common work to help end veteran homelessness."
Committee meetings were also canceled on Tuesday, but as the result of a behind-the-scenes threat, rather than an on-the-floor objection. One meeting that was shut down even dealt with transparency in government. The Executive Director of the Sunlight Foundation, Ellen Miller was cut off during the hearing.
Nick Wing contributed reporting to this post.

[Linus]

You know what, I'd make sure that every MSM knows about them not working beyond 2pm. And then I'd run a series of ad campaigns about how they are lazy and not really interested in helping voters, just themselves. I have a feeling with so many people out of work, they won't appreciate the lack of work ethic in those that should be doing something especially when having a job.

[Greyson]

Shaking my head. In all my years of following the US Congress and state level legislators...... Some of this stuff is just down right amusing but also sad and pathetic.

What a bunch of big babies. "I didn't get my way. So now I am going to be even more obstinate and with no real regard, nor concern for the American people."

[Apocalipstic]

I am just so incredibly depressed about the whole thing. I wonder how bad things will get before people wake up.

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

New GOP Poll Shows Scary Results

The Harris poll says that two thirds of Republicans (40% of Americans) believe that President Obama is a socialist. 57% (32% overall) believe that he is a Muslim, and 45% (25% overall) believe that he was not born in this country.

The scariest statistic though, is that 24% of Republicans believe that Obama is the antichrist.

*Hangs Head* I have to admit, when I found out W was OK with torture, I kept wondering when he was going to sprout a tail and start wearing a little cape.

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

The antichrist number doesn't bother me so much; you're talking about 5% of the population. I'd assume that at least 5% of the population is in the religious wing-nut camp and that they assume anything that they don't like is the antichrist.

I find the other numbers much more disturbing. 40% of Americans have no idea of what Socialism is, and 25% prefer to believe lies spewed by Faux Newz and other wing-nuts to clear and documented facts about the President's birthplace. Don't even get me started on the glaring inability to apply the most basic of logic to the 32% who think he's Muslim while at the same time blasting him for attending Rev. Wright's Christian church.

This country needs a serious overhaul of it's educational system. Oh, wait, education is elitist. Sorry, my bad.

How did anyone get out of Jr. High not knowing what socialism is. SCREAM.

It is incredibly concerning how little people learned in school. Basic stuff.

[WILDCAT]

... where to plunk these little news nuggets. (And sorry if on another thread already, I've been looking...?)

I was just watching CNN and the uproar about Michael Steele being "in the hot seat", regarding a political gathering PAID for by the RNC that was at a sex club, specializing or well known as a "bondage nightclub", and had strippers during this event, etc...

I have to laugh a bit, at the hypocricy. I wonder what fucking Beck will say about this. Geez, I wonder who in the party they will "blame". (Steele seems like the perfect scapegoat... and he has asked for so much.)
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Then there is a huge piece to run for several weeks now on CNN regarding Scientology. A former big shot, kicked out of the church is spilling his guts, about the "head" guy (the new RON H. #1 dude) kicking peoples asses and beating the shit out of them, and other staff below him ordered to do so - including the guy "talking" now, etc... (who admits he did this at the orders of the head guy and of course, they are saying only "he was abusive, was let go, and is trying to get back at the church"). This should be very interesting, to see how this develops.

And I wonder what Tom Cruise comes out with in defense on this one!

Happy, happy everyone... (Just me - who STILL DISTAINS ORGANIZED RELIGION and certain political parties!)

SMILE and peace ya'll!

WILDCAT

[UofMfan]

Heads, except his own, begin to fall.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_518110.html