Transgendered Furry Slave

[Okiebug61]

Ok! I have to admit I had never heard of this identity until my brother-in-law brought his girlfriend over and introduced her to us. She identifies as a Transgendered Furry Slave!

I'll cut to the chase and just say it. It's bugging the living hell out of Red and myself. Not because her brother is into this but because he is pushing his 12 year old son to accept this without any questions. The poor kid is in the middle of full blown puberty and is having a huge problem with all of this. The furry wears a tale in public and the slave collar with a huge lock. The brother wears the key to the lock around his neck. It's embarrassing poor Nick and he doesn't want to go anywhere with his dad and the furry in public.

I do not want to offend anyone but seriously, why should a child be forced to deal with this. Our hands are tied and Red is seriously upset and I haven't a clue what to do.

The furry also has drama issues that are way beyond my tolerance zone! She claims to suffer from major fainting spells due to an head injury as a child, which I won't question the truth of this matter, however her fainting spell in the middle of our party last night was more than overboard for me. It was at best the worst rendition of a silent movie faint I have ever seen, oh but the lit cigarette never left her hand. The brother ran to her rescue brought her inside and well the rest is just more BS.

My question is how would any of you handle this situation?

[morningstar55]

i know this is hard to do with a family member
BUT.........
think of your nephew .... you would be his voice call SS / child protective dept... you dont have to tell them who you really are.
I did .... with a member of my family....... my sister cuz she had a drinking problem and would drive to get her son from school and among other things.
just my 2 cents ... but no your nephew being a minor should NOT be subject to his dad's sexual/fetish life style.
where is your nephews mom???
maybe offer your home to your nephew to come too... ?? just a thought

[Apocalipstic]

While I admit to being amused about the trangendered furry...a lot of people think being gay is just as disgusting.

Calling DHS seems really harsh.

It will pass.

Drunk driving children is illegal and dangerous, wearing a tail is not placing anyone in danger.

[morningstar55]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

While I admit to being amused about the trangendered furry...a lot of people think being gay is just as disgusting.

Calling DHS seems really harsh.

It will pass.

Drunk driving children is illegal and dangerous, wearing a tail is not placing anyone in danger.

.. a tail in public.. i heard about this furry stuff... and thought these tails were ahh well umm butt plugs?
mayb some intervention with the father ??

[Corkey]

The child should not have to suffer for the fathers relationship in public. However the adult has every right to his relationship. I think someone should talk to the adult about it, but really it is no ones business what the adults do, but the child should not have to be involved if the child doesn't want to be.

[Okiebug61]

Originally Posted by Corkey

The child should not have to suffer for the fathers relationship in public. However the adult has every right to his relationship. I think someone should talk to the adult about it, but really it is no ones business what the adults do, but the child should not have to be involved if the child doesn't want to be.

The father has already told Nick and us that it's a packaged deal. Nick's mother has custody and she is not aware of the situation.

[Apocalipstic]

I don't think the narcoleptic GF should actually drive.....but otherwise

does it matter if tail is butt plug?

[girl_dee]

That is such a tender age, I would think the father would have more respect for his son and realize that being such an object of attention while in public is hard for any 12 year old.

The father has a right to whatever lifestyle he chooses but forcing his son to agree with it and be part of it while in public is unfair.

[Andrea]

Perhaps a reminder to the pre-teen's father about how hard it is to be seen in public with your parents at that age. Throw in parents marching to a different drummer and the embarrassment (coupled with possible bullying) could feel devastating to the child.

Have the father and child had a heart to heart open discussion about this?

I would find some alone time with your nephew and tell him nearly all parents do something to embarrass their children. Some more painful than others. Make yourself available to your nephew whenever he needs someone to talk to.

This may not be your cup of tea and it may not be how you would handle things but your nephew should make it to adulthood with a minimal amount of therapy even with this in his life.

As to your discomfort and the fainting..... ummm... I think I would avoid them if possible. I certainly wouldn't enable the drama queen's fainting spells by offering attention.

Good luck with this,
Andrea

[Okiebug61]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

While I admit to being amused about the trangendered furry...a lot of people think being gay is just as disgusting.

Calling DHS seems really harsh.

It will pass.

Drunk driving children is illegal and dangerous, wearing a tail is not placing anyone in danger.

We would never call DHS unless the Furry tries to hurt Nick!

I have to disagree, about it not being dangerous. We live in Oklahoma and the rednecks aren't too crazy about certain things. Nick is also bi-racial and that has been a big issue for him at times because when he with his Dad's side of the family he feels people stare at him cause he doesn't look like anyone.

[morningstar55]

i agree ... mom should know.....
if the father is doing this going out in public... can't imagine what goes on in front of his son behind closed doors...

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

Ok! I have to admit I had never heard of this identity until my brother-in-law brought his girlfriend over and introduced her to us. She identifies as a Transgendered Furry Slave!

I'll cut to the chase and just say it. It's bugging the living hell out of Red and myself. Not because her brother is into this but because he is pushing his 12 year old son to accept this without any questions. The poor kid is in the middle of full blown puberty and is having a huge problem with all of this. The furry wears a tale in public and the slave collar with a huge lock. The brother wears the key to the lock around his neck. It's embarrassing poor Nick and he doesn't want to go anywhere with his dad and the furry in public.

I do not want to offend anyone but seriously, why should a child be forced to deal with this. Our hands are tied and Red is seriously upset and I haven't a clue what to do.

The furry also has drama issues that are way beyond my tolerance zone! She claims to suffer from major fainting spells due to an head injury as a child, which I won't question the truth of this matter, however her fainting spell in the middle of our party last night was more than overboard for me. It was at best the worst rendition of a silent movie faint I have ever seen, oh but the lit cigarette never left her hand. The brother ran to her rescue brought her inside and well the rest is just more BS.

My question is how would any of you handle this situation?

The poor kid is embarrassed like any normal 12 year old would be and the lady sounds like a drama queen but I don't understand how her wearing a tail is damaging him. The lady herself sounds ridiculous and hilarious but I mean have you ever seen them doing anything inappropriate in front of the kid besides being a transsexual furry? Wearing a lock and key, how is that damaging to him do they make him wear it? Being 12 is rough and having an odd parent is even more rough but I'm sure if the furry lady wasn't so outlandish and just kind of "normal" and up to everyone's standards would it be ok then? I don't know the full story just going on what I know.

[WolfyOne]

Originally Posted by Ebon

The poor kid is embarrassed like any normal 12 year old would be and the lady sounds like a drama queen but I don't understand how her wearing a tail is damaging him. The lady herself sounds ridiculous and hilarious but I mean have you ever seen them doing anything inappropriate in front of the kid besides being a transsexual furry? Wearing a lock and key, how is that damaging to him do they make him wear it? Being 12 is rough and having an odd parent is even more rough but I'm sure if the furry lady wasn't so outlandish and just kind of "normal" and up to everyone's standards would it be ok then? I don't know the full story just going on what I know.

Ebon, I could see it not being a problem in a big city where anything goes any day of the week. In Oklahoma, however, depending where you live, it could be a problem. By her wearing it in public, it is damaging to his mental growth. At school he could get teased or even worse, beat up because of her. Kids can be quite cruel to other kids when they find what they consider an oddity or a weakness.

Ok and on the funny side, I'm surprised wearing a tail in Oklahoma, a hunter hasn't wanted to declare open season on her.

I'm all for different strokes for different folks as long as children aren't involved.

[Okiebug61]

Originally Posted by Ebon

The poor kid is embarrassed like any normal 12 year old would be and the lady sounds like a drama queen but I don't understand how her wearing a tail is damaging him. The lady herself sounds ridiculous and hilarious but I mean have you ever seen them doing anything inappropriate in front of the kid besides being a transsexual furry? Wearing a lock and key, how is that damaging to him do they make him wear it? Being 12 is rough and having an odd parent is even more rough but I'm sure if the furry lady wasn't so outlandish and just kind of "normal" and up to everyone's standards would it be ok then? I don't know the full story just going on what I know.

I respect your opinion but this is Oklahoma and kids are pointing at them in public "rednecks" are making comments and poor Nick is having to set there and take it cause his father thinks it's best for him.

I don't think anyone is normal! I don't subscribe to normal. I don't agree with normal! I do though think responsibility is the key question here. Red and I have different opinions about a lot of things and we respect those opinions. That is where I am upset. Nick's opinion should be respected and he is totally freaked out about being subjected to the public ridicule.

Peace!

[dixie]

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

*snip*

She identifies as a Transgendered Furry Slave!
And I identify as a queer femme princess. Just as you identify as whatever it is you identify as. What's the problem?

*snip*

The poor kid is in the middle of full blown puberty and is having a huge problem with all of this. The furry wears a tale in public and the slave collar with a huge lock. The brother wears the key to the lock around his neck. It's embarrassing poor Nick and he doesn't want to go anywhere with his dad and the furry in public.
Ya know, what a person *wears*, for any reason, shouldn't really be an issue. Yes, 12 year olds get embarrassed about A LOT of things their parents do. Trust me, as the mother of a 13 year old son, I know all about it. As for the collar, lock, key, tail...there are similar things worn by folks not even in a kink lifestyle. Are you familiar with metalheads/punk style/steampunk/etc etc? Are those "embarrassing" things to be as well, that should be tucked away? If so, well... Back in the day, sometimes even now, my means of dress have not always been of the societal norm. Back in the day, my son would roll his eyes, get embarrassed, and give me all those *sighs* when going along somewhere with me because of how I was dressed, i.e. camo cargos, some weird-ish top, big black boots, my wallet with the heavy chain that hung to my knee, my thick spiked collar, wide (sometimes spiked) leather bracelets that went halfway up my forearms, and purple or blue streaked hair. He rolled his eyes at my straight male buddy who used to wear a red kilt, combat boots, and yes, a FOX TAIL (for no kink reason at all, just because he thought it looked cool).

I do not want to offend anyone but seriously, why should a child be forced to deal with this.
So far, it seems this child is only dealing with the adults mode of dress, so to speak. Like I said, my son has been embarrassed by how I dress. Just like I used to be absolutely mortified by my mother who wore green camo overalls with bright red lipstick and bright blue eyeshadow. Yes, sucked like crazy, just as I'm sure it sucked like crazy for my child. Luckily, my child and I have a very open line of communication, so that now we both analyze each other's style and tone it down a lil if either is embarrassing to the other. Yes, my child has embarrassing style on his own sometimes as well, which I NURTURED and ALLOWED despite what others thought. If wearing athletic pants tucked into his cowboy boots with a button-up Hawaiian shirt and baseball cap backwards made him more comfortable and allowed him a lil freedom to be himself, then it was worth any embarrassment I may have felt.

Eventhough at 12 or 13 years old they are still a child, they are also reaching that age where they are more capable of accepting and understanding, (despite being in the awkward age/stage), when treated with such from the adults in their lives. "Deal with it" is all good in theory but as most parents will tell you, it doesn't get you very far with your child compared to how far you get when you sit down and have an actual conversation with the child.

My point IS...so far, nothing really has been addressed other than that this child has issue with the way the adults LOOK in public. It would be a COMPLETELY different story if the adults were exposing this child to BEHAVIORS that the child should not be exposed to, but I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere in this post. As for behaviors, I mean any kind of sexual act, kink or otherwise. Kissing, holding hands, etc is NOT what I'm referring to. For ME PERSONALLY, I don't think children should be exposed to overt sexual behavior from folks, no matter if the folks are gay/straight/vanilla/kinky/etc. There shouldn't be any yiffing or dry humping or anything of that sort in front of a child. (Also, why my 13 year old still isn't allowed to watch some movies or play some video games. It's all about the level of exposure that we wish our child to have, whether sexually/verbally/graphic violence/etc.) No, I'm not saying that a child should be kept in the dark about sex and sexuality. There's a big difference between educating and being honest with the child, and exposing the child to overt sexual behavior between adults. That's a line that I draw in my personal life especially. My son will have his own experiences, he will learn things on his own from experience, listening to his buddies, etc. All I can do is educate him and be there for him with honest answers when he has questions, concerns, etc. THIS SITUATION doesn't seem to be any of this. It seems to be nothing more than the child, OP, and OP's partner being uncomfortable with the way a person looks and/or identifies. Personally, I don't get it. I do, however, agree that the child's feelings should be taken into consideration and validated, as well as addressed by BOTH parents.

I'm not even gonna spend much time on the fainting spells, cause, well...I'd probably have just left her laying there and went on about my business. Sounds like drama/attention-getting behavior, but that is normal in some folks whether they are a transgendered furry slave or the lil housewife next door. *shrug*

[tapu]

Kinda wish I hadn't read this thread....


Okay, I have an opinion. I think it will be unpopular. Nonetheless, I can tell you right now that there's nothing that could sway me.


There is something wrong with this father that he thinks it is okay to include his child publicly in something overtly sexual to those in the know about such things, and something overtly whacked to those others.

I'm a closet nudist. But do I walk around in front of Asa and his little friends with next to nothing on. No.

Here's why: I respect my child. That guy doesn't respect his child, or he has something else wrong with him along the lines of not knowing what is and isn't respecting a child.


p.s. When someone says "at least it's not drunk driving," or whatever, is that an argument that anything short of drunk driving is fine? Because it's like arguing, well, maybe one partner beat the other up but they didn't kill 'em. I don't think we have to be satisfied with stemming only the worst.

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by tapu

Kinda wish I hadn't read this thread....


Okay, I have an opinion. I think it will be unpopular. Nonetheless, I can tell you right now that there's nothing that could sway me.


There is something wrong with this father that he thinks it is okay to include his child publicly in something overtly sexual to those in the know about such things, and something overtly whacked to those others.

I'm a closet nudist. But do I walk around in front of Asa and his little friends with next to nothing on. No.

Here's why: I respect my child. That guy doesn't respect his child, or he has something else wrong with him along the lines of not knowing what is and isn't respecting a child.


p.s. When someone says "at least it's not drunk driving," or whatever, is that an argument that anything short of drunk driving is fine? Because it's like arguing, well, maybe one partner beat the other up but they didn't kill 'em. I don't think we have to be satisfied with stemming only the worst.

Because I have limited knowledge regarding furries, I have been doing some reading and found that it is not always about sex. If what the child is experiencing is not sexual in nature, what would your objection be?

[tapu]

Originally Posted by Andrea

Because I have limited knowledge regarding furries, I have been doing some reading and found that it is not always about sex. If what the child is experiencing is not sexual in nature, what would your objection be?

That the level at which the kid would be embarrassed--really, even mortified doesn't capture it--trumps all.

When my son is embarrassed to have me come walk home with him instead of picking him up in the car after school, I say, Okay.

What the fuck does it hurt me?

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by tapu

That the level at which the kid would be embarrassed--really, even mortified doesn't capture it--trumps all.

When my son is embarrassed to have me come walk home with him instead of picking him up in the car after school, I say, Okay.

What the fuck does it hurt me?

I respectfully disagree that a child's embarrassment should be the defining factor in a parent's decision making. I agree that a child's embarrassment should be considered and discussed but not be the defining factor.

[Kenna]

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

Ok! I have to admit I had never heard of this identity until my brother-in-law brought his girlfriend over and introduced her to us. She identifies as a Transgendered Furry Slave!

I'll cut to the chase and just say it. It's bugging the living hell out of Red and myself. Not because her brother is into this but because he is pushing his 12 year old son to accept this without any questions. The poor kid is in the middle of full blown puberty and is having a huge problem with all of this. The furry wears a tale in public and the slave collar with a huge lock. The brother wears the key to the lock around his neck. It's embarrassing poor Nick and he doesn't want to go anywhere with his dad and the furry in public.

I do not want to offend anyone but seriously, why should a child be forced to deal with this. Our hands are tied and Red is seriously upset and I haven't a clue what to do.

The furry also has drama issues that are way beyond my tolerance zone! She claims to suffer from major fainting spells due to an head injury as a child, which I won't question the truth of this matter, however her fainting spell in the middle of our party last night was more than overboard for me. It was at best the worst rendition of a silent movie faint I have ever seen, oh but the lit cigarette never left her hand. The brother ran to her rescue brought her inside and well the rest is just more BS.

My question is how would any of you handle this situation?

When I first opened this thread and started to read... I got the chills, got sick to my stomach and had a rush of very bad memories and feelings.
I speak of one large, particular group of Furries and their "ring leader" when I state the following:
I personally have FAR TOO MUCH experience with a particular group of Furries that used their Furry Porn -written erotica and Furry cartoon characters or Anime characters - to target children and teens. This particular group of Furries would use their porn to entice these young kids and "bring them into their circle"...
This is so painful for me to write about, that I can hardly compose my words.
I believe *anyone's* kink should NEVER include children and children should NEVER be exposed to the kinds of things my son was exposed to at age 15 by this particular group of Furries that consider their behavior acceptable...NO CHILD should ever be forced or told they must accept kink behavior that makes them clearly uncomfortable... I was told MANY times by the "Head Furry" (after my son turned 18) that I was to accept their behavior/their kink/their ways or he would make sure I would never see my son again. I can't express how awful as AN ADULT this made me feel!! After being exposed to the "inner workings" of this particular Furry group... I believe with my heart and soul that their porn is specifically designed to target children.

My son was targeted by this "Head Furry" and their group when he was 15. I was NOT aware of it until he turned 18 and moved in with the "Head Furry" as his slave. After he was 18, there was not much I could do to stop things.... so I made a visit several times to their home.... where I would see the Furry porn posted all over the house where the "Head Furry's" grandchildren were playing! It shocked me, it upset me... it pissed me off that I felt so helpless to do anything to protect any child from that influence.... And it pissed me off that this Furry group would promote their unprotected group sex activities and general unprotected sex as acceptable behavior to children and teens....including non-consensual teens that they were hoping to "wrap into" their group and eventually get them to consent.

I AM NOT passing judgment on any other Furry or any other group or kink... My experience is with one group of Furries, especially their Head Furry, that destroyed my son's life, preyed on him, used him as a target, passed him around as a "toy" at their Furry Conventions, tossed him away as soon as he turned "too old", and ruined my relationship with my son and made my life a living hell for many years. They preyed on him by initially using the Tail (at first telling him it was connected to a tradition of The Renaissance Fair) and their written erotica depicting Anime animal characters as the lead voices. It is VERY disturbing to me that ANY group or ANY individual would use these tactics to initiate children and entice them into accepting certain behaviors or lifestyles.

I can't write the full story here... as this is not about me or my family's trauma at the hands of a Furry Group or pedophile predator.... But I can say: When I see someone wearing "The Tail"... I know there is more going on behind the scenes that can be very harmful to our younger generations... and I can CERTAINLY ATTEST to the damaging affects of such targeting, negative, forced-to-accept behavior.

I will never, ever dismiss ANYONE for reaching out for support when it comes to their fears of possible harm coming to children.

Snow, you once supported me when I announced how my son was a victim of a predator. I see the OP as asking this Community for advice and support.