Trans Appreciation - Page 3

Martina · 09-20-2012, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullDog

Any time butch and trans are put together we are automatically seen as he/male and referred to or compared to that.

This bears repeating.

Corkey · 09-20-2012, 06:20 PM

When in doubt, ask.

DapperButch · 09-20-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlixKnight4All

Dapper
I agree with you completely. My post is actually out of order and not is response to the current topic. Sometimes I truly do take to long to write my posts *laughs*.
Mine was in response to posts I now know I should have quoted. Again my mistake. I was just offering clues that may help here and else where not this thread.

To be clear when I see hy I do not assume male and I do not assume not male. What I do assume is I should use it with that person until I know them or I ask.
In most threads it is just simpler not to use pronouns period accept foe me and I.
But as always thank you for your response you always make me think.

No need to apologize, I was just presenting my opinion/information about myself.

Tony · 09-23-2012, 03:23 AM

Well, so much to read & I have so much to say but in my stupid smart phone, my typing gets tedious. Please bear with me. I have learned so much, & continue to learn from this site. I've lived a stealth life since my late teens as a TransSEXUAL. The term "trans", when I was younger only meant transsexual. The "born in the wrong body" thing. Now I understand it to encompass many more chosen ID's. I think this is where some confusion comes from. Bottom line, for me, is it's all about respect. I personally have problems with pronouns, but they only happen on sites like this, & once I've corrected or informed someone, it's been fine. As someone mentioned earlier, when in doubt, ask. And your profile does give the opportunity to let people know your personal wishes.
Hope I came off ok. Lol
Just my .02

weatherboi · 09-23-2012, 09:02 AM

From my perspective I agree with Toughy and Bulldog.

I am a pre op trans man and continually get lumped into a butch category of some kind by femmes, my transgender community (men and women alike), gay men, and other people that tend to be gender binary guardians.

In all my years of knowing that I am a man born to a female body did I ever encounter this till the late 90's online. I have watched this particular behavior carry over into the world we all walk in together socially. When I have this experience, it has been for many different reasons all particular to each offender and something I can never get the full understanding of because I am not them. Sometimes I correct people and sometimes I don't. It all just depends what space i am in and why I think they are doing it and sometimes continue to do it. Understand, I am talking about people that pretty much know me and know that I am a man born to a female body.

Transgender has no hierarchy regardless of body modification or not, regardless of T or not, for me being born in the wrong body starts in the mind and ends in the mind. The physical transition is a plus and a privilege for some, or not, and others it will never be an option and can be a burden, or not.

For me, feminine and masculine are the continuum, and genders are the constant in a giant universe of fluidity, because presentations vary sooooo much, and then sometimes they don't, creating norms and stereotypes.

Tony · 10-12-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Canela

Thank you for your fierceness. The protective nature that you have for me, that quality that makes you want to stand up for me even when you know I'm more than capable to stand up for myself.

Thank you for showing me love in a discreet and (not so discreet-not pda) way sometimes, in front of my family and friends. The kindness and courtesy you give me that moves even straight couples to reassess their own behaviors....

Thank you for making me the Queen of our world/life/relationship and understanding your own place as our King.

Thank you for committing to us, to our life and to our loved ones. Being you is the only way I can love you, and thank you for receiving my love in it's entirety.

Thank you for letting me be me with you, the girl, the mama, the wifey the kitten, the tigress, the lamb, the big baby. Thank you for being my bf, man, husband, daddy, mister, sir, friend, lover, (big baby) among others and for understanding that masculine terms are natural to me for you, and I revel in being able to use them. That means more to me than you know.

Thank you for appreciating me in all my many facets. For making me feel good about being a girl/woman who loves her bf/TG/FtM/Transman.

Thank you for"getting" it.

Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

GraffitiBoi · 10-12-2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

Yes she is. I hope to find a woman who thinks of me that way some day.

LoyalWolfsBlade · 05-20-2013, 12:42 AM

Tonight I want to take the time to say thank you and to acknowledge how much I appreciate one of my trans brothers. So I say thank you Paphgleo for taking this guy to his first trans meeting ever and making me feel more comfortable than I thought I could be.

I was pretty much a complete stranger to you yet you were willing to be there for one of your brothers and I thank you for that. I swear I do not normally talk as much as I did tonight.

Tony · 05-26-2013, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Wow. That was beautiful. Thank YOU for all that. You're going to make some lucky guy very happy. ;-)

Who knew that I'd be that VERY lucky guy? Life is good.

DapperButch · 05-26-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony

Who knew that I'd be that VERY lucky guy? Life is good.

No shit? That's awesome!

Tony · 05-26-2013, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch

No shit? That's awesome!

Yea, it really is. Very awesome. ;-)

Canela · 05-26-2013, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Yea, it really is. Very awesome. ;-)

Unless you're me, you have no idea how awesome my sweet loving man truly is...
He's better than chocolate! Lol

Tony · 05-26-2013, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canela

Unless you're me, you have no idea how awesome my sweet loving man truly is...
He's better than chocolate! Lol

Wow. Better than chocolate? Damn, I hit the jackpot.

Canela · 05-27-2013, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Wow. Better than chocolate? Damn, I hit the jackpot.

Hey! That's how I feel--so happy!

LoyalWolfsBlade · 05-28-2013, 02:15 PM

I want to take a moment to show some Trans appreciation for Nadeest. She is always there to answer a question and to show support. Whether it is for one of us old timers like myself or any new comer. She is both knowledgeable, gentle, and true.....a real lady. I for one appreciate all she does on this site and has done for this guy.

Nadeest · 05-29-2013, 01:05 AM

You are very welcome, and thank you for the lovely compliments. However, as to my being 'gentle', you might! want to ask my younger brothers about that. I'm fairly certain that they have a vastly different opinion, on that subject. :P

LoyalWolfsBlade · 05-29-2013, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nadeest

You are very welcome, and thank you for the lovely compliments. However, as to my being 'gentle', you might! want to ask my younger brothers about that. I'm fairly certain that they have a vastly different opinion, on that subject. :P

That's okay my younger brother has the same opinion of me...smile

09-20-2012, 06:20 PM	#42
Corkey Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Human Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Very Married Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where I want to be Posts: 8,155 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 47,491 Thanked 29,299 Times in 6,640 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	When in doubt, ask. __________________ "Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners and your customs. We would be better pleased with beholding the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices, than with hearing you talk about them". ~Old Tassel, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee)

09-23-2012, 03:23 AM	#44
Tony Member How Do You Identify?: All Man (FTM if I must have a label) Preferred Pronoun?: Male ones Relationship Status: She's my Southern Comfort Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 412 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 569 Thanked 1,241 Times in 326 Posts Rep Power: 18460389	Well, so much to read & I have so much to say but in my stupid smart phone, my typing gets tedious. Please bear with me. I have learned so much, & continue to learn from this site. I've lived a stealth life since my late teens as a TransSEXUAL. The term "trans", when I was younger only meant transsexual. The "born in the wrong body" thing. Now I understand it to encompass many more chosen ID's. I think this is where some confusion comes from. Bottom line, for me, is it's all about respect. I personally have problems with pronouns, but they only happen on sites like this, & once I've corrected or informed someone, it's been fine. As someone mentioned earlier, when in doubt, ask. And your profile does give the opportunity to let people know your personal wishes. Hope I came off ok. Lol Just my .02 __________________ Words are what we hear; they allow the heart to believe what it wants to believe. But actions, actions show us the real truth of what we need to believe.

09-23-2012, 09:02 AM	#45
weatherboi Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Owned boy Preferred Pronoun?: Hey boy!!! Relationship Status: counting freckles slowly under Her direction!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: i have 2 sets of geographic coordinates!!! Posts: 6,097 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 26,797 Thanked 12,559 Times in 2,993 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	From my perspective I agree with Toughy and Bulldog. I am a pre op trans man and continually get lumped into a butch category of some kind by femmes, my transgender community (men and women alike), gay men, and other people that tend to be gender binary guardians. In all my years of knowing that I am a man born to a female body did I ever encounter this till the late 90's online. I have watched this particular behavior carry over into the world we all walk in together socially. When I have this experience, it has been for many different reasons all particular to each offender and something I can never get the full understanding of because I am not them. Sometimes I correct people and sometimes I don't. It all just depends what space i am in and why I think they are doing it and sometimes continue to do it. Understand, I am talking about people that pretty much know me and know that I am a man born to a female body. Transgender has no hierarchy regardless of body modification or not, regardless of T or not, for me being born in the wrong body starts in the mind and ends in the mind. The physical transition is a plus and a privilege for some, or not, and others it will never be an option and can be a burden, or not. For me, feminine and masculine are the continuum, and genders are the constant in a giant universe of fluidity, because presentations vary sooooo much, and then sometimes they don't, creating norms and stereotypes. __________________

05-20-2013, 12:42 AM	#48
LoyalWolfsBlade Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Pre-Op FtM, Preferred Pronoun?: Masculine ones plz Relationship Status: Single but haven't given up on finding the One Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: I gaze upon the same moon as you do Posts: 3,827 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,214 Thanked 9,646 Times in 3,123 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Thank you.... Tonight I want to take the time to say thank you and to acknowledge how much I appreciate one of my trans brothers. So I say thank you Paphgleo for taking this guy to his first trans meeting ever and making me feel more comfortable than I thought I could be. I was pretty much a complete stranger to you yet you were willing to be there for one of your brothers and I thank you for that. I swear I do not normally talk as much as I did tonight. __________________ Life should never be stagnant hence my quest for new knowledge will continue until my last breath. Wolf

05-28-2013, 02:15 PM	#55
LoyalWolfsBlade Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Pre-Op FtM, Preferred Pronoun?: Masculine ones plz Relationship Status: Single but haven't given up on finding the One Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: I gaze upon the same moon as you do Posts: 3,827 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,214 Thanked 9,646 Times in 3,123 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	I want to take a moment to show some Trans appreciation for Nadeest. She is always there to answer a question and to show support. Whether it is for one of us old timers like myself or any new comer. She is both knowledgeable, gentle, and true.....a real lady. I for one appreciate all she does on this site and has done for this guy. __________________ Life should never be stagnant hence my quest for new knowledge will continue until my last breath. Wolf

05-29-2013, 01:05 AM	#56
Nadeest Member How Do You Identify?: as myself Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Leesburg, FL Posts: 595 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,876 Thanked 2,118 Times in 501 Posts Rep Power: 17077996	You are very welcome, and thank you for the lovely compliments. However, as to my being 'gentle', you might! want to ask my younger brothers about that. I'm fairly certain that they have a vastly different opinion, on that subject. :P