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Old 12-22-2009, 06:18 PM   #81
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Oh, and by the way, I can take everything this "non-racist" website says, and cite proof that disproves it. So, please, try me. I have nothing else better to do. And a huge academic data base or two to smack you down with. Try me.
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Oh, and by the way, I can take everything this "non-racist" website says, and cite proof that disproves it. So, please, try me. I have nothing else better to do. And a huge academic data base or two to smack you down with. Try me.

Maybe the flag in itself is not racist, but for me, as long as there is a perception of racism, I can't fly it or have anything to do with it.

It does irk me a bit when people outside the South completely see racism and slavery as a Southen issue.

and while we are on the subject of things that irk me...laugh.
It irks the HELL out of me when someone calls me a Southern Belle.
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Aside from those stars and bars as a symbol of slavery and racism; it is also a symbol of a group of States who seceded from the United States......traitors to this country during the Civil War and today.

What I find ironic is the same folks who believe in 'America love it or leave it' think the US was founded as a Christian nation, and wear little US flag lapel pins are also the same ones who belong to the CSA and fly and defend the flag of traitors.

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by the way.....we drink sweet tea in the southwest also......actually I thought we in the southwest invented sweet tea.......laughin....
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OK, so the Smokey Mountains!

One of the things I love about the South is the closeness to so many different things. Hills, mountains, beaches, lakes, waterfalls, scenic drives, and so much history!

From the Border Islands to Key West, to Beale Street, to Dallas, to Little Rock, Dauphin Island, Disney World, Atlanta....I could on and on and on....the Everglades, Miami, Athens (all of them), New Orleans.......

But the best part of all, is it usually is not hella cold.
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by the way.....we drink sweet tea in the southwest also......actually I thought we in the southwest invented sweet tea.......laughin....
You just think that stuff you drink out there is sweet tea, Toughy. hah!
You can't even find real sweet tea west of the Mississippi. And I include Texas in that. Putting sugar into the tea after you get the cup doesn't make it real sweet tea. LOL



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But the best part of all, is it usually is not hella cold.
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You just think that stuff you drink out there is sweet tea, Toughy. hah!
You can't even find real sweet tea west of the Mississippi. And I include Texas in that. Putting sugar into the tea after you get the cup doesn't make it real sweet tea. LOL





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Sweet tea in Tennessee has more sugar in it than actual tea. It's kind of a syrup watered down by ice. You don't add the sugar with a spoon, you use a measuring cup or 2, or 3.

What I don't get is iced coffee??? WTH?
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I thought this was commonly referred to as "Jack Daniel's".
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Sweet tea in Tennessee has more sugar in it than actual tea. It's kind of a syrup watered down by ice. You don't add the sugar with a spoon, you use a measuring cup or 2, or 3.

What I don't get is iced coffee??? WTH?
That's exactly how it's made down here. You take you boiling pan of tea and add in a cup or two of sugar and then some cold water and put it in the fridge. *grin* And voila! Real sweet tea (and I don't even drink the stuff)

I'm with you on the iced coffee. What's the point, I mean? I like mine good and lukewarm. *grin* Well, see, I like hot coffee, but then I let it simmer on down to lukewarm and guzzle it. And yes, I know I'm strange.
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When I was a kid we lived in Argentina, when we would visit Nashville, my mom would make bean bags of grits and pinto beans to smuggle them into Argentina. I still think of grits as a special treat!
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I thought this was commonly referred to as "Jack Daniel's".
Yummy! My grandmother said Jack was medicinal and actualy added sugar to it!
I am a Jim Beam girl myself! or Maker's for holidays.

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That's exactly how it's made down here. You take you boiling pan of tea and add in a cup or two of sugar and then some cold water and put it in the fridge. *grin* And voila! Real sweet tea (and I don't even drink the stuff)

I'm with you on the iced coffee. What's the point, I mean? I like mine good and lukewarm. *grin* Well, see, I like hot coffee, but then I let it simmer on down to lukewarm and guzzle it. And yes, I know I'm strange.
I do the same thing. I make it hot, let it cool a bit and guzzle. Ice in it is WEIRD. Like today. its 40 degrees and one of my Ohio co-workers has some iced coffee with whipped cream on it? Yuck.
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In my family, we "baul" the water and sugar to make a syrup to use in the tea. This is different from "bauling" the peanuts.

Martha Stewart calls it "Simple Syrup" 1c water & 1c sugar boiled/bauled until it's kinda thick. It's also great in Mojito's and Juleps, keeps you from having that grainy scum on the bottom of your glass.

Who likes grainy scum, anyway?

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Grainy scum is gross!

I love love love mojitos!

and

I want pecan pie. Now.

Do y'all say pEEcan oor peCAn?
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Do y'all say pEEcan oor peCAn?

Uh, peCAHN, of course. And it's PRAWlines, not PRAYlines.


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I go either way, PEEcan or PeCAHN. Speaking of which, my momma called and has two of 'em ready for tomorrow night, no matter how it's pronounced.

Speaking of grits, the only way I knew to eat them was with sugar. My dad said it's because they were such a special treat when he was growing up. They got oatmeal all the time, but not grits. So when they got grits, they fixed them the same way as they did their oatmeal -- with sugar.
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I go either way, PEEcan or PeCAHN. Speaking of which, my momma called and has two of 'em ready for tomorrow night, no matter how it's pronounced.

Speaking of grits, the only way I knew to eat them was with sugar. My dad said it's because they were such a special treat when he was growing up. They got oatmeal all the time, but not grits. So when they got grits, they fixed them the same way as they did their oatmeal -- with sugar.
Oh man that sounds great! The pies I mean.

I like my grits with red eye gravy!

What kind of gravy you eat is a huge thing in the South...Sawmill, chocolate, red eye, tomato....my favorite of all is red eye. I made poor Cynthia, my long suffering Yankee G/F learn how to make it. *beam*
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Sweet tea in Tennessee has more sugar in it than actual tea. It's kind of a syrup watered down by ice. You don't add the sugar with a spoon, you use a measuring cup or 2, or 3.

What I don't get is iced coffee??? WTH?
I add granulated sugar to the pitchers of tea I make, I used to use all that artifical sweetners back in the day but now its just plain sugar.
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I go either way, PEEcan or PeCAHN. Speaking of which, my momma called and has two of 'em ready for tomorrow night, no matter how it's pronounced.

Speaking of grits, the only way I knew to eat them was with sugar. My dad said it's because they were such a special treat when he was growing up. They got oatmeal all the time, but not grits. So when they got grits, they fixed them the same way as they did their oatmeal -- with sugar.
Oh my gay! You just validated my wife's whole sweet vs savory grits thang! We have a rule about the discussion of food on the plate though.. What's on HER plate is HERS.. she is free to enjoy it anyway she chooses. Even if it's so very very wrong! LOL!

I make my sweet tea by bringing bags to a boil.. simmer for five min. Let stand for about ten.. add sugar while still hot... then place in pitcher and fill with ice instead of water. I will cap off the pitcher with more ice after that has melted. I think the "shock" effect of the ice makes it better, but that's just me.

I do use a simple syrup for mint Juelp's. And very specifically Kentucky Colonel Mint. You would be amazed at the arguments surrounding the "origin" of the Julep. What most southerners do agree with however, is the amount of bourbon used. Read: LOTS!
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I love the various Southern accents... I like the New Orleans and especially Savannah's. I could sit and listen to someone from Savannah speak all day long and I'd be drooling.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful Holiday... for the Christians - do you traditionally open your presents on the eve or on the morning?
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Oh my gay! You just validated my wife's whole sweet vs savory grits thang! We have a rule about the discussion of food on the plate though.. What's on HER plate is HERS.. she is free to enjoy it anyway she chooses. Even if it's so very very wrong! LOL!

I make my sweet tea by bringing bags to a boil.. simmer for five min. Let stand for about ten.. add sugar while still hot... then place in pitcher and fill with ice instead of water. I will cap off the pitcher with more ice after that has melted. I think the "shock" effect of the ice makes it better, but that's just me.

I do use a simple syrup for mint Juelp's. And very specifically Kentucky Colonel Mint. You would be amazed at the arguments surrounding the "origin" of the Julep. What most southerners do agree with however, is the amount of bourbon used. Read: LOTS!
Jess, I was in college before I knew there was any other way to eat grits. *grin*
But I saw your version earlier in the thread and that sounds like the way some of the upscale restaurants do it around here and it tastes damn good. I'll be quite happy to sample yours!
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Well, I make some of the best sausage gravy ya ever put in your mouth. But, my all time favorite, hot bauld (sic) p-nuts from the lil ole man on the side of the road.
okay I could look it up but I need to know from the sources...

what the heck on earth is hot bauld peanuts.. lol... boiled? peanuts... what does that even taste like? I know what roasted ones are... but this is new to me.. please share

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