I am a Lesbian/Man/Tman and I like Lesbians/Men/Transmen because.... - Page 2

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

I agree that it feels awkward to single out a group for why we like them. I had the desire to challenge myself to this (enjoyable) task, as a way to continue my own evolvement. Sometimes its good to really think about why it is that we like certain people. It can tell us something about ourselves, or about the ones we love. Thanks for your response SF.

The_Lady_Snow · 07-05-2010, 07:09 PM

I am a dyke who loves few people, there are transmen and guys who I have mad respect for in individual measures.

It's nothing physical, it's what kind of humans and beings they are with people and those around them. I admire their strength and am blessed for they are in my life.

I can say the same thing for my lesbian friends, I have mad respect for them, their passion, their inner strength the work they do etc etc.

I love few, I love the guy I am with because for the first time in my lifetime, I can be me and he likes it, appreciates it and he is just as fucking strong and sick as I am.

I love my lesbian sisters because I can rest my head upon their breast and just be and it's soothing and I like it. Some I love more than others and one I would give my right arm for....

I dunno if this is what you intended

WingsOnFire · 07-05-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman

I love it when Tmen go to lesbian-focused events and bravely and politely assert their right to be there.

This brought a smile to my face... I was the president of a lesbian group and my last function was a Christmas party with 30 or so lesbians... My trans man came and stood beside me showing his right to be there. He didnt quite want to be there... but he did it for me...

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

I am a femme, a lesbian and I love other humans.

I happen to be in love with and married to a trans man, but not because he is a transman. It just happened that the human I fell for is a transman.

It's hard for me to couch an answer in what it is I love about a specific label, because no two transpeople that I know are exactly the same.

I will say that I appreciate it when a trans person wants to keep their Queer/Butch/Femme/Whatever roots and remain a part of the community.

I don't want to lose all the history and amazing people we have because they chose to transition, and I am incredibly grateful when people do not leave the community because of transition.

I know it's not easy sometimes.

I am also grateful when others make room for each other and change is accepted. Again, it's not always easy, but the pay off is immense.

I hear what you are saying SF... I wasnt looking to fall in love with a trans man... But I fell head over heels with him... because he is loving, caring gentle, fierce, demanding, giving, protective.... everything I could ever want... I love him for who "he" is... I couldnt imagine life any different...

And I am too am glad when others make room for each other...

Great post...

SuperFemme · 07-05-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman

I agree that it feels awkward to single out a group for why we like them. I had the desire to challenge myself to this (enjoyable) task, as a way to continue my own evolvement. Sometimes its good to really think about why it is that we like certain people. It can tell us something about ourselves, or about the ones we love. Thanks for your response SF.

I love your thread and the sentiments where it comes.

I am always up for evolving. In that process I try to participate on the level that am currently on, and I really hope that my response did not imply that this is not a fabulous thread.

Thank you for starting it.

TenderKnight · 07-05-2010, 07:51 PM

I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said

I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying *really* hard to not call me by my birth name.

I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am.

That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian.

-Tony

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I am a dyke who loves few people, there are transmen and guys who I have mad respect for in individual measures.

It's nothing physical, it's what kind of humans and beings they are with people and those around them. I admire their strength and am blessed for they are in my life.

I can say the same thing for my lesbian friends, I have mad respect for them, their passion, their inner strength the work they do etc etc.

I love few, I love the guy I am with because for the first time in my lifetime, I can be me and he likes it, appreciates it and he is just as fucking strong and sick as I am.

I love my lesbian sisters because I can rest my head upon their breast and just be and it's soothing and I like it. Some I love more than others and one I would give my right arm for....

I dunno if this is what you intended

Snow, I intended for people to dwell on why they like, admire, or love other people. We seemed to specifically need some Tmen/Lesbian luv. Your post is dashing and wonderful and full of what we need. Thanks.

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TenderKnight

I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said

I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying *really* hard to not call me by my birth name.

I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am.

That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian.

-Tony

Tender Tony, How wonderful to have a lesbian grandmother. Thank you.

Sam · 07-05-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Corkey

I am Transgendered Male Butch and I like lesbians, I love my wife who is Lesbian.

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around

Sam,so great you dropped in! What do you like or admire about the lesbians you know???

Or the men, or Tmen, or anybody really.

Stearns · 07-05-2010, 08:55 PM

I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

TenderKnight · 07-05-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman

Tender Tony, How wonderful to have a lesbian grandmother. Thank you.

Thank you for your comment and for this thread.. However, i just want to be clear, it was my Godmother, not my grandmother.. Both of my grandmothers didn't care for my godmother, since she is a person of color.. My maternal grandmother was a lot better with it then my adoptive paternal grandmother, who i don't really have a lot of good things to say about.

In any case

Thank you for your comment on my post, I look forward to more positive thoughts and words here to come.

-Tony

Sam · 07-05-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bonne-maman

Sam,so great you dropped in! What do you like or admire about the lesbians you know???

Or the men, or Tmen, or anybody really.

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

Queerasfck · 07-05-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

Weird response.

Mister Bent · 07-05-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to something negative and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject. but im a transguy, and i like and get along wonderfull with femme's of any nature.

this is a great thread. great reading.

I will count myself as confused then, as the purpose of this thread.......oh, silly me. You can read. The purpose of this thread is clearly stated at the beginning.

You get along with femmes of the lesbian nature? How grand.

just left wondering why I wouldn't care for your opinion then.....

Sam · 07-05-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to something negative and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

your opinion of course.

differences of opinions from all walks of life Bent. you keep yours, i will keep mine.

bonne-maman · 07-05-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EzeeTiger

Weird response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Sam, maybe it's just me, but "lesbians? you really dont want my opinion on this subject..." feels like a veiled reference to negativity and I'm pretty sure you know that's not cool, especially not in this thread.

"But I'm a transguy..." What's that got to do with anything who you do or don't get along with?

I love these gents. Fellows, you're always welcome in my thread! Let's hear why you love lesbians. I am sure Sam would like to hear!

Sam · 07-05-2010, 09:12 PM

Not all femme women consider themselves "lesbian"

that was all i meant.

Corkey · 07-05-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I know you, but im not getting "Male Butch", transgendered i understand. im not nit picking or calling you out, i just wasnt sure transgendered male/butch, i guess maybe im just not getting the butch part. Corkey, but its great to see ya'll around

Simple Sam and yes I know you too. I am not taking T, nor am I having surgeries. I am male but not going to transition. Therefore I retain Butch. Didn't think you were nit picking.

TenderKnight · 07-05-2010, 09:14 PM

*sighs and ducks and covers*

here is comes, folks.. hold on to your asses..

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TenderKnight Member How Do You Identify?: Kinky Poly Transman Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 551 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 773 Thanked 822 Times in 256 Posts Rep Power: 2402407	I am a transman and try to except people for who and what they are, not by what or who they identify as or with. That being said I love my godmother, who is a lesbian of a generation before mine.. She doesn't really get the trans thing and a couple of years ago, tried to talk me out of it and warned me that i was making a mistake.. Now, she is trying to understand and even asks me questions and is trying really hard to not call me by my birth name. I admire her because she was in the Army in the 70's, later was captain in a police force in a semi-rural town on the coast of NC. I admire her struggles and her kindness. She was beside my mom and dad when I was born and helped choose my birth name with my dad. I love her history and the fact that she is still growing, just as I am. That is some powerful stuff for me. She helped me when I came out as a lesbian.. Drove 6 hours to take me out to talk when my poor mom was freaking out. She isn't perfect, no one is, but she is the best human being she can be. That is what matters to me. She also happens to be a Lesbian. -Tony __________________ The beatings shall continue.. until moral improves..

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Stearns Member How Do You Identify?: Trans Man Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Husband Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: 'nita land Posts: 272 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 385 Thanked 443 Times in 149 Posts Rep Power: 3638	I am a transman who treasures his queer identity and will never give it up. I like and admire lesbians for their tremendous courage and the paths they have forged for our entire community. My closest lesbian friend, Susan, has been out and proud for over 30 years. She brings a rich history, amazing political and social insights, a keen eye for bullshit and a sharp tongue for "-ism's".

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