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Old 08-11-2012, 07:47 AM   #1481
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Would love to hear your thoughts on this book. I read it many years ago. It certainly will raise one's skepticism scale related to use/misuse of ECT, psychotropics in adults and in children.

I think science will eventually show what seems blatantly obvious to me anecdotally: ECT is cruel, inhumane, an abuse of power and barbaric. I haven't read the book however.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a gear in the pharma machine, essentially a white-collar factory worker. Many folks in the drug industry are excellent, well-intentioned, humane people and are dedicated to alleviating suffering in people and animals.

Many are merely profit-driven, un-ethical, un-regulated, un-supervised evil fucks, however. This also applies to those prescribing drugs, especially psychotropic ones or people who are in any position of power such as doctors, psychiatrists or pscyologists. Many of them get into the field to figure out what the hell is wrong with themselves or people in their families of origin. Sometimes, they seem to realize that they can use what they've learned to manipulate people, as well.

It's pretty common knowledge that doctors and medical staff are legally bribed by drug companies to prescribe and push drugs and that pharma has one of the hugest lobby systems around. Hell, they promote drugs on tv as if they were any other desirable consumer product, like shoes or cars or cell phones.

Sure, it is absurdly expensive to develop good drugs. For one drug, for one tiny part, of one arm of one stage of it's development, it could cost the drug company $40,000 per subject. That's even if the subject decides to drop out of the study part way through.

Total up the cost of development, the cost of advertisng and promotion, the cost of lobbying and the cost of paying for legal bribery and you see it is a complex industrial complex. Thus, we have drugs which indeed cost only .005 cents per pill to manufacture costing consumers $8 each.

Imo both drugs and ECT are way over-used and ECT should be banned outright.
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I am currently revisiting one of my favorites, A Confederacy of Dunces by Johh Kennedy Toole. It is perfection.
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"Marriage and Other Acts of Charity" by Kate braestrup

"Two Treasures" by Thich Nhat Hanh

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Ok, quoting my own, but who cares, right?

I'm tickled that the library just received a copy of Adrienne Rich's Dream of a Common Language! Heading to the library today to check it out before anyone else. How nerdy am I?

My copy is falling apart I have had it for so long. Good choice and some great lines in there. "Only she who says she did not chose, is the loser in the end." Love it and enjoy the read.

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I just started "LZR-1143: Perspectives". It was a free Zombie novel thing download for the Kindle. I'm about halfway through it and the writing is terrible but I can see where it could have been really good. I think it's part of a series but, needless to say, I won't be reading the rest of the series.

Up next, "Ghosty Men: The Strange but True Story of the Collyer Brothers, New York's Greatest Hoarders, An Urban Historical"
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why are all the book recommendations from this thread checked out from the library - whyyyyyy?

i'm in wait list purgatory

i was able to snatch up 1q84 by haruki murakami

i'm only 6 chapters in but so far it's very promising
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Last week to get a couple more books in before the big finale at the library.

How to be Lost
by Amanda Eyre Ward

Dream of a Common Language
by Adrienne Rich

“The longer I live the more I mistrust
theatricality, the false glamour cast
by performance, the more I know its poverty beside
the truths we are salvaging from
the splitting-open of our lives.

-from "Transcendental Etude”
― Adrienne Rich, The Dream of a Common Language: Poems 1974-1977
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I was at Powell's Bookstore the other day and found a book that I think will prove useful to me.

I'm reading:

A Monk's Alphabet: Moments of Stillness in a Turning World
(Authored by poet, theologian and Benedictine Monk: Fr. Jeremy Driscoll)


It's a collection of 187 meditations.
I have already read a few of them since I bought the book
and can say that sometimes I find myself thinking about the
proposed subject of thought and find myself wondering in my
own mind: Asking myself if what I have read seems true or
if I have abandoned my own existential existence and considered
adopting a new realm of thought.

I like this book and I will keep it, too.

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Only Revolutions: A Novel
by Mark Z. Danielewski


I loved House of Leaves, but I'm struggling not to abandon this one. I don't mind going down a rabbit hole, but I prefer to be dragged in or kicked from behind instead of just slowly being bogged down with pockets full of blather.
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Honeymoon with Harry by Bart Baker the movie will be out soon !!! It's a good read I highly recommend it !!!!!
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I read it, loved it, and now I'm listening to the unabridged audio version of it read by Augusten. it's a powerful addiction memoir, mixed with dark humor, and I just love his voice.

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I've just finished 'Wicked' by Gregory Maguire

and currently on my nightstand are the following selections:

Italo Calvino, 'Invisible Cities'
Sarah Waters, 'The Night Watch'
A.S. Byatt, 'The Matisse Stories'
Margaret Atwood, 'The Penelopiad'
Jane Hamilton, 'A Map of the World'
Jussi Adler-Olsen, 'The Keeper of Lost Causes'
Alice Hoffman, 'The Doverkeepers'
Carol Birch, 'Jamrach's Menagerie'

some in varying states of started, most accrued from my last trip to the Montague Bookmill ("Books you don't need in a place you can't find" is the tagline)

I'm not sure which to start/re-start next.
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Started "Full Dark, No Stars" by Stephen King yesterday morning and just finished. It's classic King with all the creep factor. This one was hard because it was particularly violent in places but still had his famous "catharsis through adversity" thing.

Going to go ahead and get a few pages into "The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of Depression" by Andrew Solomon before I nod off.
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Started "Full Dark, No Stars" by Stephen King yesterday morning and just finished. It's classic King with all the creep factor. This one was hard because it was particularly violent in places but still had his famous "catharsis through adversity" thing.

Going to go ahead and get a few pages into "The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of Depression" by Andrew Solomon before I nod off.
I love Stephen King I will have to check that one out !!!! Thanks
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In addition to A Monk's Alphabet (by Fr. Jeremy Driscoll), I came across some other books I had and thought I would read from them again (for pleasure).... I found:

Pilgrim At Tinker Creek (by Annie Dillard)

and

Zen and The Birds of Appetite (by Thomas Merton)
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Well, I thoroughly enjoyed the summer reading challenge at the library. I ended up winning a raffle of a couple books, and a Bath & Bodyworks gift card. So, now taking a break and giving my eyes a rest (ha - not!).

Reading one of the raffle prizes:
Death by Killer Mop Doll by Lois Winston

It's cheesy.
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[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Whip-Smart-Memoir-Melissa-Febos/dp/0312561024"]Whip Smart: A Memoir[/ame]

Febos's candid, hard-slogging debut about her four years working as a dominatrix at a midtown Manhattan dungeon cuts a sharp line between prurience and feminist manifesto. Having grown up on Cape Cod, Mass., then dropped out of high school before moving to New York City and enrolling in the New School in the fall of 1999, Febos slipped into drug use and needed a way to finance it. An attractive law-school graduate neighbor in her Brooklyn apartment building mentioned that she worked as a domme, and Febos decided to give it a go. She spanked grown men, professionals, fathers, and rabbis, sometimes inserted enemas, sodomized them with dildos, and otherwise verbally humiliated them, all for $75 an hour, plus tips. At first, Febos managed the grueling, unsavory work while high on heroin and cocaine, and gained a tremendous sense of confidence, even invincibility at being able to justify her livelihood as one of the few well-paid acting gigs in this city. In time, she also became addicted to her job; she eventually joined AA to help get clean of drugs, but kicking her addiction to sadomasochism was harder, and in this emotionally stark, excoriating work, Febos mines the darkest, most troubling aspects of human interaction. (Mar.)
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