Olivia Cruisers? Carribean Sun Cruise October 30th

MountainStar · 09-06-2010, 12:27 PM

I thought I would post a little postie seeing if there was anyone from here that was going on the cruise other than me

Drop me a line here or on my profile! It would be great to meet other Femmes and Butches on the cruise!

MountainStar

Linus · 09-06-2010, 12:37 PM

Tech Note: I moved this thread as it's not a BFP event or sanctioned by BFP. (this thread was originally under the BFP Events section)

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 12:44 PM

I presume you mean the cruise from the dash site?

I'm going to keep my mouth shut on this one for once...

So the answer is .....

HELL NO

Linus · 09-06-2010, 12:47 PM

Actually, this isn't the Dash site's cruise (their's is slated for Spring 2011).

SuperFemme · 09-06-2010, 12:52 PM

after being made aware of Olivia Cruise Lines policy regarding transgender vacationers, i have to say that i must boycott them on principal.

when you call a gay cruise line to make a reservation and are advised that your masculine appearing partner would probably be better served by booking a cruise on a mainstream cruise line? it is apparent that they are not inclusive.

so no.

Blaze · 09-06-2010, 01:10 PM

Not to be slandering or disrespectful to the other site. But like SuperFemme. I prefer not to support a company that discrimanates. About 8 years ago. A bunch of us from Hawaii wanted to jump ship and party. Well, as we talked on the phone, they were extremly accomidating. But when we showed up at the dock. The ticket woman said that this was a lesbian cruise. I said, well. I am a Butch woman and I paid for my ticket. She went on to explain that because there were more butch wemon and not enough woman-woman, it would be best if we booked for another cruise at a later time. One of our MTF said to this lady, well I was born a man, you got a problem with that??? The woman gasped and said" that she would not let her or that is him" <~in her own words. Board this ship because as she had stated earlier it was a Lesbian cruise.
That was it, I will never book with them again. And I mean NEVER!

SuperFemme · 09-06-2010, 01:13 PM

at the DOCK?
are you fucking kidding me?

oh. that. pisses. me. off.

Diva · 09-06-2010, 01:15 PM

Maggie said it best: Hell no.

Thank You. Drive safely.

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:17 PM

I have to admit, in the past I had always wanted to go on a cruise with a bunch of my friends. Now that I know the things I know, I can't support it any longer.

I completely understand that Olivia is a business and they are there to make money, hell we are all for that. But if it can't include the entire community with open arms then I will not support it.

durrrrrrrr · 09-06-2010, 01:18 PM

after readin what others had said about them...i would also be a hell no

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:19 PM

I for once did NOT open this can of worms....

~~ Just saying..

tiggs · 09-06-2010, 01:20 PM

I have kept quite about this topic on the other site but I have to agree with the others posting here, it would be a big heck no. My Daddy is very masculine presenting, not because Hy tries to be but because it is simply who Hy is and Hy is perfect just as Hy is. W/we most certianly would not put our hard earned dollars into a company that would suggest we look 'elsewhere' or that states trans or masculine presenting individuals are 'welcome' but really 'they are more of a womens only, lesbian space'.

So I must reiterate, Heck no.

Diva · 09-06-2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie

I for once did NOT open this can of warms....

~~ Just saying..

My understanding is You cannot put the lid ON the can o' worms to begin with....<giggling......and hiding>

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:25 PM

And why was it that so many people didn't discuss this? What the hell were you all afraid of.. getting booted? Ha.. That was the least of my worries. I for one am not the type to sit by and watch my friends be told they can or can not do something.

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diva

My understanding is You cannot put the lid ON the can o' worms to begin with....<giggling......and hiding>

Ok maybe you might be right a little.. *grin*

tiggs · 09-06-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaze

Not to be slandering or disrespectful to the other site. But like SuperFemme. I prefer not to support a company that discrimanates. About 8 years ago. A bunch of us from Hawaii wanted to jump ship and party. Well, as we talked on the phone, they were extremly accomidating. But when we showed up at the dock. The ticket woman said that this was a lesbian cruise. I said, well. I am a Butch woman and I paid for my ticket. She went on to explain that because there were more butch wemon and not enough woman-woman, it would be best if we booked for another cruise at a later time. One of our MTF said to this lady, well I was born a man, you got a problem with that??? The woman gasped and said" that she would not let her or that is him" <~in her own words. Board this ship because as she had stated earlier it was a Lesbian cruise.
That was it, I will never book with them again. And I mean NEVER!

All I can say is that this is appalling they should be ashamed

Diva · 09-06-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie

Ok maybe you might be right a little.. *grin*

I lurb You, WormBoi............

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by June

-30 Points for all, y'all.

OMG soooooooooooooo damn funny!!!!!!!!!

JUNE, I LOVE YOU!

Strappie · 09-06-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by June

-30 Points for all, y'all.

well shit, now I know why y'all didn't post anything.

Blaze · 09-06-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strappie

And why was it that so many people didn't discuss this? What the hell were you all afraid of.. getting booted? Ha.. That was the least of my worries. I for one am not the type to sit by and watch my friends be told they can or can not do something.

I never said anything because I never wanted to even get to the dock in the first place. I seen the posting on the other site and quickly ~cringed~. We never got our money back, and I will never look back at them either. If it was brought up, I would have said my piece here, well now it has, so now I speak only the truth... I don't visit, so I couldn't post my thoughts there.
But now I put my hat down on the Planet, so now I speak, I love, I hug, and I warn...

09-06-2010, 12:27 PM	#1
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09-06-2010, 12:44 PM	#3
Strappie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: I know who I am... Doesn't matter Relationship Status: It's a new day.... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 3,283 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,813 Thanked 4,946 Times in 1,350 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I presume you mean the cruise from the dash site? I'm going to keep my mouth shut on this one for once... So the answer is ..... HELL NO

09-06-2010, 12:52 PM	#5
SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,109 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	after being made aware of Olivia Cruise Lines policy regarding transgender vacationers, i have to say that i must boycott them on principal. when you call a gay cruise line to make a reservation and are advised that your masculine appearing partner would probably be better served by booking a cruise on a mainstream cruise line? it is apparent that they are not inclusive. so no.

09-06-2010, 01:10 PM	#6
Blaze Senior Member How Do You Identify?: With my drivers Lic. Preferred Pronoun?: Gentleman.. Depends on the Situation. Relationship Status: Last Rodeo, what a ride, many sunrises & sunsets to be had... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: where a realtor had me sign the dotted line Posts: 1,901 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,466 Thanked 5,470 Times in 1,450 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Not to be slandering or disrespectful to the other site. But like SuperFemme. I prefer not to support a company that discrimanates. About 8 years ago. A bunch of us from Hawaii wanted to jump ship and party. Well, as we talked on the phone, they were extremly accomidating. But when we showed up at the dock. The ticket woman said that this was a lesbian cruise. I said, well. I am a Butch woman and I paid for my ticket. She went on to explain that because there were more butch wemon and not enough woman-woman, it would be best if we booked for another cruise at a later time. One of our MTF said to this lady, well I was born a man, you got a problem with that??? The woman gasped and said" that she would not let her or that is him" <~in her own words. Board this ship because as she had stated earlier it was a Lesbian cruise. That was it, I will never book with them again. And I mean NEVER!

09-06-2010, 01:13 PM	#7
SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,109 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	at the DOCK? are you fucking kidding me? oh. that. pisses. me. off.

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Strappie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: I know who I am... Doesn't matter Relationship Status: It's a new day.... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 3,283 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,813 Thanked 4,946 Times in 1,350 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I have to admit, in the past I had always wanted to go on a cruise with a bunch of my friends. Now that I know the things I know, I can't support it any longer. I completely understand that Olivia is a business and they are there to make money, hell we are all for that. But if it can't include the entire community with open arms then I will not support it.

09-06-2010, 01:19 PM	#11
Strappie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: I know who I am... Doesn't matter Relationship Status: It's a new day.... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 3,283 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,813 Thanked 4,946 Times in 1,350 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I for once did NOT open this can of worms.... ~~ Just saying..

09-06-2010, 01:25 PM	#14
Strappie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: I know who I am... Doesn't matter Relationship Status: It's a new day.... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 3,283 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,813 Thanked 4,946 Times in 1,350 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	And why was it that so many people didn't discuss this? What the hell were you all afraid of.. getting booted? Ha.. That was the least of my worries. I for one am not the type to sit by and watch my friends be told they can or can not do something.