Keeping up with VA asshattery

[Jess]

Thinking because we do have such a dangerous man seated in our capitol, it might benefit those of us who actually live here to try to stay abreast of what he's up to and where to go to fight him...

Currently, with the AG's anti gay discrimination push :

Facebook has a few pages dedicated to keeping up with rallies, etc. I'll try to get some of them posted here if folks want to sign petitions or are able to actually get to the events.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Won...9397836?ref=nf


Trying to keep current with everything going on in VA is tricky, but we can at least try.


http://www.commonwealthtimes.org/?p=3449


http://vimeo.com/10881010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041001268.html

Will try to keep more info coming as I come across it. Hnag in there Virginians.. keep fighting the good fight! Letters to representatives, rallies, petitions... anything we can do.

[SuperFemme]

This made my eyes a little misty.
Then I realized it was all that Afrin Theo is pushing.

Jess, your AG scares me and I want to punch his mouth shut.

Just saying.

[Jess]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

This made my eyes a little misty.
Then I realized it was all that Afrin Theo is pushing.

Jess, your AG scares me and I want to punch his mouth shut.

Just saying.

no doubt.
I offered a friend some afrin the other day when she needed eye drops. It usually ends up in my eyes anyway..lol

[Rufusboi]

Originally Posted by Jess

Thinking because we do have such a dangerous man seated in our capitol, it might benefit those of us who actually live here to try to stay abreast of what he's up to and where to go to fight him...

Currently, with the AG's anti gay discrimination push :

Facebook has a few pages dedicated to keeping up with rallies, etc. I'll try to get some of them posted here if folks want to sign petitions or are able to actually get to the events.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Won...9397836?ref=nf


Trying to keep current with everything going on in VA is tricky, but we can at least try.


http://www.commonwealthtimes.org/?p=3449


http://vimeo.com/10881010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041001268.html

Will try to keep more info coming as I come across it. Hnag in there Virginians.. keep fighting the good fight! Letters to representatives, rallies, petitions... anything we can do.

Huckabee was in the paper yammering on about gay marriage opening the doors to polygamy and incest and so on. I guess they are back to singing that old tune again. If you ask me, the anti gay groups are pounding out the rhetoric at full force because their days are numbered and they know it. All they can do is fling around shite and more and more people are realizing that it really is just shite.

Rufus.

[AtLast]

Knowing that people like you, Jess are in Virginia helps a lot! has to hard to live there and have all of this going on.

[Jess]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Knowing that people like you, Jess are in Virginia helps a lot! has to hard to live there and have all of this going on.

It certainly has it's moments. We all do what we can, ya know..
Thanks for the support!

[SuperFemme]

PERSONALLY?

I think listening to Tiny Tim and watching Woody Allen and/or Roman Polanski movies will lead to incest, child rape and perhaps polygamy WAY faster than being married to boring old me.

If you marry me you may or may not love shoes a little too much but that is tame compared to what some straight christian/mormon folks are doing.

[Linus]

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Linus

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

It's kind of a misrepresentation.
After you discharge Parole, most states have to allow you to vote.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

It's kind of a misrepresentation.
After you discharge Parole, most states have to allow you to vote.

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

For the second time in a week, Virginia Gov. Robert F. McDonnell has angered black leaders and civil rights groups, this time when they learned of his plans to add another step for nonviolent felons to have their voting rights restored.

[UofMfan]

I am not in Virgina, nor do I want to. These are scary times for VA, and a sign of things to come if we don't open our eyes elsewhere.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

Welcome to America, land of self righteous indignation and holier than thou attitudes about anyone who has ever done anything just the slightest bit wrong. And, since minorities are disproportionately jailed in this country, it helps keep those pesky minorities out of the voting booth where they might decide to vote Democrat.

Good luck to everyone in VA on the 19th, when the gun-totin' god-fearin' wacko wing nuts who are hiding their racism behind some non-existent threat to the 2nd Amendment strap their penises, I mean guns, to their belts and proceed to scare the crap out of everyone else. I really appreciate the fuck out of my tax dollars being wasted by the feds having to keep an eye on these ignorant asshats.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

You have not technically served your time until you've discharged parole.
Besides, nobody wants felons to vote. Ridiculous, but true.

[Jess]

Originally Posted by Linus

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

From wiki coz it was an easy first hit:
In modern times, felons can receive punishments which range in severity; from probation, to imprisonment, to execution for premeditated murder or other serious crimes. In the United States felons often face additional consequences, such as the loss of voting rights in many states; exclusion from certain lines of work and difficulty in finding a job in others; prohibition from obtaining certain licences; exclusion from purchase and possession of firearms, ammunition and body armor; and ineligibility to run for, or be elected to, public office. In addition, some states consider a felony conviction to be grounds for an uncontested divorce. All of these losses of privileges, including others noted explicitly by the judge in sentencing, are known as collateral consequences of criminal charges. Finally, if a felon is not a U.S. citizen, that person may be subject to deportation after sentencing is complete.

I may be wrong about this, but to the best of my understanding the right to vote is generally reinstated after a felony sentence has been carried out. That is the only right reinstated ( I think). Although, I do recall a big bruhaha in recent news about a politician winning some race even though he was a convicted felon. So, I may be wrong on this, or it may be a state to state issue.
I am also not sure if the returning of the right to vote is only to non-violent felons or to all. Interesting question though.. will be looking it up.
Thanks

[Jess]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Welcome to America, land of self righteous indignation and holier than thou attitudes about anyone who has ever done anything just the slightest bit wrong. And, since minorities are disproportionately jailed in this country, it helps keep those pesky minorities out of the voting booth where they might decide to vote Democrat.

Good luck to everyone in VA on the 19th, when the gun-totin' god-fearin' wacko wing nuts who are hiding their racism behind some non-existent threat to the 2nd Amendment strap their penises, I mean guns, to their belts and proceed to scare the crap out of everyone else. I really appreciate the fuck out of my tax dollars being wasted by the feds having to keep an eye on these ignorant asshats.

Really glad we are quite a few hours away from that park.

[christie]

I found this http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000286 in reference to felon voting by state.

Interesting information, especially when you look at the racial demographics. As Adele so correctly stated, the numbers are very disproportionate (and disturbing).

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

[christie]

Looks like the Oath Keepers pulled out of the rally - "they lost control of the event":

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rig..._open-car.html

I wonder if its a matter of their loss of control of the event or if they felt they would lose their media exposure in the masses that are planning to attend?

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Welcome to America, land of self righteous indignation and holier than thou attitudes about anyone who has ever done anything just the slightest bit wrong. And, since minorities are disproportionately jailed in this country, it helps keep those pesky minorities out of the voting booth where they might decide to vote Democrat.

Good luck to everyone in VA on the 19th, when the gun-totin' god-fearin' wacko wing nuts who are hiding their racism behind some non-existent threat to the 2nd Amendment strap their penises, I mean guns, to their belts and proceed to scare the crap out of everyone else. I really appreciate the fuck out of my tax dollars being wasted by the feds having to keep an eye on these ignorant asshats.

[Jess]

Part of the Oath Keepers statement from above article:

"We fully support the right of Americans to peaceably assemble and publicly exercise their right to bear arms right along with their right to free speech, association, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances."

Now, while I certainly support all of those things independently, I sure as heck hope to never see them doing them simultaneously.
ACK!

Really glad they opted out of this one. It did have quite a rumble stirring.

[Jess]

Link to the on line petition from Equality Virginia for those who can't be there in person to sign.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?s...GTWUDhdqHM%3d&

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by christie0918

Looks like the Oath Keepers pulled out of the rally

Wow, even some of the scary people are afraid to show up. This is not good.