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Old 04-25-2020, 01:33 PM   #401
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This is certainly disturbing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...oung-patients/
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Transcribed from the BBC World News which aired at 9:00 PM EDT on BBC Radio World Service UK.

"President Trump has not held his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House, tweeting that it was not worth his time or effort. His absence after weeks of attendance comes two days after he provoked outrage and ridicule by suggesting that COVID-19 patients could be treated with disinfectant."

I guess 45's widdle feelings got hurt.
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The REAL reason why he wants everyone to drink bleach is to turn more people white.



For the love of god people, DON'T drink the bleach!


Tennessee Poison Center sees more calls, hospitalizations over disinfectants amid COVID-19

The Tennessee Poison Center has seen an increase in calls related to cleaning supply overexposure as well as a jump in people hospitalized after ingesting hydrogen peroxide as Tennesseans try to ward off the coronavirus.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...19/3013177001/

It's so true ~ when I read your post I started singing ~ "Drink , Drink , Bleach Everybody ~ lolol
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Currently 1 out of 5 people tested randomly in NYC have coronavirus antibodies. 88% of people who go on ventilators in NYC die. Half of people who have shortness of breath as a symptom end up needing ventilators. NYC is thought to have a strain of COVID more similar to European countries than other parts of the U.S. and more fatal. Needless to say BB and I have been sealed inside our apartment for 5 weeks with no plans of setting foot outside our apartment building. It's hard to imagine that elsewhere, in other parts of the U.S., people are denying the virus can become a problem for them. NYC has turned into what feels more like a third-world country. People who can't care for themselves but aren't about to die are being discharged from hospitals to nursing homes and sent with a body bag, so everyone else in the nursing homes are dying but they don't know what to do with them. Up the street from me Central Park has turned into a tent hospital. Multiple notices come per week of people at my synagogue who have died of COVID. Greyingbutch was symptomatic for weeks and then died shortly after arriving at the hospital before any intervention could be attempted. Leftwritefemme died at the hospital within six days of having symptoms of COVID. I'm beyond words but wanted to check in and share. I feel more comfortable sharing with my community here than in larger social media settings. I'm grateful for all of you.

We have participated in Southern California Shelter in place since March 5. See the chaos around the country. The shocking, horrible news about Sherrie smacks you awake as you know it just makes this craziness so real. The awful things seem to hit so hard. My father in-law passed away April 7, in Michigan. , Family didn’t have a chance to fly to be with him. when told he was sick, He had been isolated for 3 weeks, and became despondent and quit eating. He passed within 3 days of getting ill, in an assisted living facility that didn’t allow visitors. No funeral, memorial service later , Neptune Society took care of everything. Yesterday a priority mail package was left on the front porch, big red letters reading “Contains Cremains” . Stark reality visits without an invitation. It’s been a rough time. Be safe folks .
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So glad Lorne Michaels was able to make this happen since it was a (bucket-list?) request from Dr. Fauci, but it may be the last we see of Dr. Fauci because this will get on Trump’s most insecure nerves.
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So glad Lorne Michaels was able to make this happen since it was a (bucket-list?) request from Dr. Fauci, but it may be the last we see of Dr. Fauci because this will get on Trump’s most insecure nerves.

So true! Trump will be seething after seeing this..
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The best and sure cure for Covid-19? Getting rid of MF45!


That is if mainlining Lysol and sticking a tactical flashlight up your ass doesn't work.
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Cool PPE's and poor American Hospitala

Here in Canada, the federal govt has been dispensing masks and PPEs (as much as they have been able to acquire from a ludicrously competitive marketplace) to the various parts of the country most affected by Covid-19.

Haven't really watched American TV in a while, so took a gander at Morning Joe this morning, and was horrified to learn that poorer hospitals in NYC had to get a GoFundMe page going so as to get money to purchase PPEs and masks, while the richer NYC hospitals aren't caught with this problem. Why on earth don't those richer hospitals help the poorer hospitals? Eh? I mean, all those doctors in the rich hospitals take this oath to "help" people, right? Oh my god, my deepest sympathies to all those who don't have the money to actually get decent medical help! This situation is so unconscionable.

In March, the New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern made the decision to “go hard and go early,” locking down the country after around 100 residents tested positive for COVID-19. "By next week, businesses, kindergarten and elementary schools that teach ages 1 to 10 will reopen." "The country has done better than flatten its coronavirus curve, public health experts say — it has crushed it."

American political scientist Van Jackson, who lectures at New Zealand's Victoria University of Wellington, says communicating is Ardern's "superpower." Jackson says "social solidarity" has been the lesson from New Zealand: "If we're all in this together, then we're actually going to get through it better and faster." Jackson also has said that "collectivist societies" are faring better and more efficiently "than fractured, individualist societies."

Unlike Canada, New Zealand stopped community transmission in its tracks. WTG Jacinda Ardern !!! We in Canada are still limping along (I blame Trudeau for this btw, who shirked declaring a national emergency), but the risk where I am is so much lower than in a place like NYC... I can't imagine the stress of people there, like some from this site... may god help them.
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We got home late this afternoon from running errands to find a friend (Johnny) had called. Johnny noticed, as he drove by the home of an elderly neighbor (Buzz), that the window was down on his pickup truck. The call had come in at 11AM and it was now 4PM. It was raining out pretty good and this man is fastidious. He is a hard core bachelor and we keep an eye out on him. Bevi was just about in tears as we jumped in the van and sped to his house. When we got there I checked the truck (the window was still down)and bevi ran to his house. As she reached for his front door....there he stood. "Oh Buzz, I am so glad you are not dead!" was her response. After that we explained the window situation and proceeded to have a neighborly talk. I think this incident will be a little comforting to him to know he might be a bachelor but he is not alone. Oh and Buzz was home and not on the road because he called in with a sore throat.
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I woke up this morning a pissed off American ~ I wish I could remember my dreams cause I always wake up in a good mood ~ I even sing a good morning song to our animals but this morning I wasn't myself. I called our Gov.'s office Gov. Charles Baker of Massachusetts. I wanted to talk to his office , which I did. I expressed my concerns about early reopening's for the people of this ctry., not having any protection ( masks) for our own safety, esp. someone like myself w/ a pre existing disease . Facial coverings aren't enough if I have to be in a hosp. or medical ctr. for tests. there should be masks available to purchase and prescription masks from our doctors. With a few more comments about life we have been forced to live , I ended the call. Personally I don't know if he will ever get the message or not and if it will matter. It matters to me every time my daughter has to leave our home to purchase what we need taking care of us. I did say that as an American if they think we buy the story it was China they are mistaken ~ I told them I feel it's an act of terrorism where it hit so many parts of the world at the same time as it grew into a pandemic. no one seen this happening but the person who committed this horrific crime. I have listened to them explaining a pandemic and it's impact , and it reassures my OWN theory of terrorism.
Anywayss, Good Morning ~ ty for this space so I could vent.
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I found this article useful and thought maybe someone else might as well. It actually made me feel more comfortable with the choices my wife and I make to keep ourselves safe and I found the break down and scoring of exposure scenarios stress relieving. I felt better after reading it. Maybe we really can keep ourselves safe until this is over. Who doesn't want to believe that?

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/masks-gl...wN6_Fyyt1Oakx8
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For folks who might be looking for masks that might offer some sort of protection from COVID-19, I have a couple of web sites that offer medical (PPE) masks to the general public in smaller batches (25-50 disposable masks). Compared to some of the price gouging I've seen from some sellers, these 2 sites don't seem to be too bad, costwise.

www.Banggood.com

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www.masksbywhizley.com/


A word about these masks, though. Keep in mind that I've been a Registered Respiratory Therapist (now retired) for nearly 30 years, and my specialty has always been in the field of Adult Critical Care (ICU). It's from this perspective that I'm going to say a couple of things about these masks.

In the hospital environment, for "general"/Universal Precautions personal protection equipment, we use the thin, paperlike (usually they are a light blue in color, but can also be white or a pale yellow color) masks with the slim elastic ear loops. Sometimes these masks come with an attached plastic face mask, and sometimes not, but they are suitable for protecting against simple splashes and the like. They don't really do a whole lot for small particle (less than 3 microns in size, which is SMALL), as in bacterial or viral, protection. Sometimes, these masks are offered in health care environments, doctors' offices and the like, to patients who have an active cough, for the purpose of protecting others who might be around them.

Now, that being said, the masks that we use for what we've always called "Respiratory Isolation" or "Droplet/Airborne Isolation" (this would be COVID-19), we use what is called an N95, or NP95 Protective Mask. These masks are made much more durably, consisting of a thicker structure and a higher degree of protection, effectively blocking the inhalation of particles/virus/bacteria that are less than 3 microns in size. The important thing that you need to consider here before one goes rushing out to try to buy one or more of these N(P)95 masks is this: In order for these masks to guarantee that they will work effectively and perform to the standards that they are designed for, they must first be FIT TESTED, to ensure that they will fit the wearer correctly. These masks are disposable, and tend to be much more expensive and, in these days and times, harder to find. These are the masks that the authorities were first urging people NOT to buy, to ensure that there would be enough of them available for health professionals. I'm not telling anyone to either buy or not buy these masks. That's up to you. I'm not your conscience, nor am I your moral compass. If you want to buy one of these N95 masks, in particular, buy one, but be aware of what you're getting, what it's intended for and who it is intended for. In the hospital, we have special Infection Control teams who are constantly and periodically fit testing us, in order to ensure that we are protected by these masks.

There are also masks being sold on Amazon and Etsy that are made of various materials and are not considered to be "medical grade". These can be hand made and consist of any number of fabrics and materials. I've seen a few neoprene masks that are suitable for sports activities and some that are designed to protect against dust and pollution. I'm not thinking that these would be very effective, in reality, but I guess they'd be better than nothing, if nothing else were available. They are inexpensive and I've heard that, for someone with any kind of sewing ability, relatively easy to make.

Either way, I hope this information might serve to provide information to the folks who'd like to know this sort of thing. I hope everyone is staying safe, washing your hands and practicing the advised social distancing.

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I don't know if anyone has posted about complications to ones health by improperly using disinfectants but as a former hairdresser and because of built in knowledge about chemicals (in general), I wonder if people realize that another consequence or health liability is the over use of disinfectants or the mishandling of disinfectants or improper mixing of disinfectants.

For example, how many people actually put on gloves first before using a Clorox disinfectant wipe? I see people readily pulling out sheet after sheet of those cleaning wipes with no gloves over their hands to protect them from being over-exposed to common place disinfection methods.

I think it's wise to put on a pair of gloves because anything your unprotected body touches, even if it is only for a brief time or for extended time periods, your body absorbs the disinfectant which could lead to other unintended consequences (health wise).

If anyone is interested in reading an article about it, I will include a worth while read in the title of the scientific article below.


Health Problems and Disinfectant Product Exposure at a Large Multi-specialty Hospital
(American Journal of Infection Control; Vol. 45, Issue 10, published October 1st, 2017, pp. 1133=1138. Published by Elsevier Inc. on behalf of Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, Inc.).
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https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...tjBuQczeroxXbw

I found this in my travels on the interwebs and it's what I have been saying all along. I really think the fucking CEOs and the damn 1% need to fucking suck it up. I'm not killing myself for your comfort. What have you done for me? What are you doing now for your fellow man? Not a damn thing. True colors right there.
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I don't know if someone's mentioned this already but animals are now showing up with COVID-19. Dogs and cats in the US and Hong Kong plus lions and tigers at the Bronx Zoo have tested positive.
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I don't know if someone's mentioned this already but animals are now showing up with COVID-19. Dogs and cats in the US and Hong Kong plus lions and tigers at the Bronx Zoo have tested positive.
And with people going to the beach makes me wonder how this can or will affect sea life.
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And with people going to the beach makes me wonder how this can or will affect sea life.
good point Orema ~ pray that won't happen ~ I know from where I live in a city close by they have detected the Covid-19 in the sewerage .
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Sociology and Epidemiology studies can be very helpful in mapping how COVID 19 is transmitted via various other host processes (for example: water waste management processes, and the possibility that water resources can be compromised).


Here's a news article I found which was published a few weeks ago at the top of April (link provided below):


New research examines wastewater to detect community spread of Covid-19
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