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Mel C.
10-20-2011, 10:14 PM
The last two weeks have definitely been an improvement. I'm hoping that recovering from the injury and getting support from fans (including his lovely mom) have given Chaz the confidence boost needed. He has plenty of reasons to be proud.

Midnight
10-20-2011, 11:54 PM
I know one of his goals was to lose weight with the dancing .... to me it looks like he is slowly achieving this!

Shadowboi2010
10-21-2011, 04:55 AM
I agree that his last two weeks have shown improvement. I'm a little jealous that he gets to dance with Lacey too.

As long as he shows improvement I'll vote for him! I was sad to see Carson go, but at this point in the competition, I think it was his time.

Write14u
10-21-2011, 11:41 AM
I found the article about "sympathy vote" totally ludicrous. Jealous much?
It's called the queer vote, not the sympathy vote. It's also very similar to the Tea Party vote that kept Palin on. She's mad jealous she didn't have that support. It really is about either name recognition or personality or both.

J. Mason
10-23-2011, 06:42 PM
I agree with Write, she is jealous over the whole situation.

MsTinkerbelly
10-24-2011, 10:42 PM
Chaz did so well tonight, the best he has ever done.....and the judges were hateful and cruel.

Vote!!!

Shadowboi2010
10-24-2011, 10:50 PM
I voted! I thought he did an excellent job!

J. Mason
10-24-2011, 10:53 PM
I missed it tonight so I have to wait till the vids are posted ugh

Rockinonahigh
10-24-2011, 11:06 PM
I thought Chaz danced better tonight than ever,the judges I could kick in the butt.Each season of this show I dislike Len more as he goes on,not one of the contestants are or ever will be as good as pro dancers over the long haul.Chaz has had to use his body in ways he never had to before,it takes time to be able to learn and do the moves..I know I give it my best shot when I dance,im a big guy but I have also been an athletic person most of my life,Chaz hasnt.I really think they pissed him and Lacy off with the coments they made,I hope he comes back next week.

Dominique
10-25-2011, 04:15 AM
I'll post video's when they become available. I found this interesting.

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A heated exchange between professional dancer Maksim Chmerkovskiy and head judge Len Goodman stole the spotlight from first-place finishers Ricki Lake and J.R. Martinez.
Chmerkovskiy and his partner, soccer star Hope Solo, landed near the bottom of the judges' leaderboard Monday. With 20 points out of 30, they finished just ahead of Chaz Bono, in last place with 19 points.
One of the seven remaining celebrities will be dismissed during Tuesday's episode. Judges' scores combined with viewer votes determine who is kicked off the hit ABC show each week.
When Goodman called Solo's rumba "your worst dance of the whole season," Chmerkovskiy suggested the judge get out of the dance business.
Chmerkovskiy told one of the show's hosts that the judges seem to pick on certain contestants, and he kept up the conversation after Monday's live episode.
"The judges have their favorites," he said. "They always have."
Bono's professional partner, Lacey Schwimmer, agreed.
"They always have their favorites, and this season it's completely clear who they are. I won't name names, but we are not one of them," she said. "I'm actually proud of what Maks said. A lot of us don't get the chance to stand up for us and our partners."
Schwimmer cried backstage during Monday's episode and was still upset after the show, when she complained about the judges' "rude" remarks about Bono.
"Every week he gets referred to as an animal," she said. "They always comment on his personality, and last I checked, this was a dancing show."
After the couple danced their tango, judge Bruno Tonioli said Bono was like "a cute little penguin trying to be a big menacing bird of prey." Tonioli has also compared Bono to an Ewok.
Mom Cher tweeted her support before and after Bono's performance.
Bono said after the show that he "came on here to show people a strong proud transgender man, and I'm not going to let the judges get me down."
David Arquette, who finished in third place with his "Grease"-themed routine, said tensions are running high as the competition heats up.
"It's just a high-pressure part of the season," he said after Monday's episode. "Everybody's really passionate about it, so it's not a surprise people get fired up."
He earned 23 points for a quickstep that "had the exuberance and charge of a frisky teenager on spring break," Tonioli said.
Nancy Grace came in second with her best score yet: 24 points for a foxtrot that one judge called "a show-stopper."
Lake and Martinez tied with the top score of 29 points.
Rob Kardashian - who had sisters Kim and Khloe and their basketball husbands among his cheering section - finished in fourth place with 22 points for a cha-cha Tonioli described as "adequate, but it didn't have the impact and power it should at this stage."
The seven couples also danced a group routine to a medley of Broadway songs. Broadway star Kristin Chenoweth performed a medley of her own, singing a pair of show tunes.
Chenoweth is set to return on Tuesday's episode, when a sixth celebrity is ousted. Carson Kressley, Chynna Phillips, Kristin Cavallari, Elisabetta Canalis and Ron Artest/Metta World Peace have already been eliminated this season.
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Shadowboi2010
10-25-2011, 04:17 AM
I am wondering about Chaz's ability to do lifts. That may become an issue later on. Testtosterone does make you stronger to a degree, but its not like going thru your development years with it.

I know lifts are a bit of strength, and a lot of leverage, but the strength comes in the transition between lift and ground.

I hope we get to see.

Dominique
10-25-2011, 04:54 AM
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SelfMadeMan
10-25-2011, 07:47 AM
Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....

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10-25-2011, 07:47 AM
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Write14u
10-25-2011, 04:52 PM
Had to go and look at Ricki's number. She and JR are definitely the ones to beat IMO. They look so much more smooth and comfortable than everyone else. Chaz looked better, but they're still very simplistic compared to everyone else. Still, he's done a great job to hang in this far. Although the judges are very much looking at technique in ways the voters don't, I still feel like they're being harsh on Hope. Her athleticism is being penalized. When you're an athlete of that caliber, it's hard to let go of what you know and how you move.

As for the other three, I don't give three hoots about 'em and didn't even bother to watch. I can't wait until they're voted off soon.

Dante
10-25-2011, 05:32 PM
Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....


I totally agree. and it seems like Len is getting worse every season! Granted, they are "judges", BUT, I think they sometimes forget that they are judging amateurs , NOT professional dancers. Sometimes, the pros get so frustrated with the judges and rightly so. This season, imparticular has had some of the best celebrity dancers yet. The competition is tough. I hate when anyone gets voted off.

clay
10-25-2011, 05:51 PM
My pleasure! (f)

I'm liking that they are available on tuesday now, and we are not waiting until wednesday morning!



Thanks, YB, for posting the videos as I don't have TV either...so I appreciate them and enjoy watching them, too!! THANK YOU!!

freckled1
10-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....

Don't mind the "constructive critisism" that, if followed, will help a dancer get better - but in what world would Bruno's comments to Chaz make him a better dancer? Pisses me off.

Tommi
10-25-2011, 08:29 PM
"I took so much away from this," Chaz Bono said after getting the news. "This was an amazing journey that really pushed me and showed me that I could do so much more than I ever thought I could."

"I came on this show because I wanted to show America a different kind of man," he added. "I dedicate everything I did to all the people out there like me, especially the kids and teens who are struggling. You can have a wonderful, great life and be successful and happy."

ruffryder
10-25-2011, 08:45 PM
"I took so much away from this," Chaz Bono said after getting the news. "This was an amazing journey that really pushed me and showed me that I could do so much more than I ever thought I could."

"I came on this show because I wanted to show America a different kind of man," he added. "I dedicate everything I did to all the people out there like me, especially the kids and teens who are struggling. You can have a wonderful, great life and be successful and happy."

WTG Chaz! Incredible! I'm proud of him as I'm sure lots of people are. He did a great job.

Rockinonahigh
10-25-2011, 08:45 PM
I hate that Chaz is gone,I really looked forwards to watching him dance cause every week he got better.He did what he set out to do and did it with grace and charm.

princessbelle
10-25-2011, 08:49 PM
I didn't watch tonight.

I just knew it would be him to go. It breaks my heart.

But, it also makes my heart shine.

He stood before everyone and said "Here i am, deal with it".

Both good and bad comments...still it made them all see him and take notice and started the hard conversations that are stepping stones.

I am proud of him.

Very proud.

Rockinonahigh
10-25-2011, 08:49 PM
Don't mind the "constructive critisism" that, if followed, will help a dancer get better - but in what world would Bruno's comments to Chaz make him a better dancer? Pisses me off.

I know a lot of people feel like we do about the judges,its one thing to give your opinion,but when it becomes name calling and degradeing thats not being a pro its being an ass.One thing for shure the way the judges have been has dimed my likeing for the show.

Mel C.
10-25-2011, 09:19 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with the judges, but I think they need to work on their delivery a bit. Being in a competition doesn't mean that people have to put up with the insults. Feedback should provide an opportunity for improvement. Every person on that stage is brave and deserves to be treated appropriately.
I am very annoyed by the way Chaz and Hope have been treated.

I thought everyone was great this week..in their individual dances and the group dance. Everyone seemed to be having fun.

AtLast
10-25-2011, 10:58 PM
I am going to miss him!!! I was not suprised- had a feeling this would be his last week, but, wanted him on a few more!! He has improved and what I saw was that he just became more and more comfortable up there. Plus, I liked how his partner, Lacy, interacted with him.

Both Carrie Ann and Len bother me in how they give feed-back. Carrie ann has been an ass to Hope Solo and Len's comments- really directed at Chaz's size have stunk. But, he seems to do this to everyone. Bruno is a good judge in terms of balance between constructive criticism and letting the "stars" know what they did do right. He also points to dance technique directly.

I think Chaz accomplished a lot in doing this show for transgendered people and it was a tough go for him out there. I say, KUDOS, Chaz!!

SelfMadeMan
10-25-2011, 11:26 PM
Sad to see Chaz go... but I think he did a wonderful job. He put so much effort into his dancing, and was improving every week. He did the trans community proud :)
The judges, on the other hand, are asses. I never watched DWTS prior to this season, and now that Chaz is gone I don't think I'll watch again. I hated all the snarky, rude comments about size/looks/weight. The show just isn't my cup of tea.

Mel C.
10-25-2011, 11:31 PM
Sad to see Chaz go... but I think he did a wonderful job. He put so much effort into his dancing, and was improving every week. He did the trans community proud :)
The judges, on the other hand, are asses. I never watched DWTS prior to this season, and now that Chaz is gone I don't think I'll watch again. I hated all the snarky, rude comments about size/looks/weight. The show just isn't my cup of tea.

I record the show and fast forward through the judging most of the time. It's much more palatable to me that way. I love watching the dancing.

Tommi
10-26-2011, 12:17 AM
I record the show and fast forward through the judging most of the time. It's much more palatable to me that way. I love watching the dancing.

At the very end, I was happy to see the genuine love that surrounded him from All the other dancers, ~~ especially the way Nancy Grace stroked his face and hugged him. It was the love and approval from his peers that was beautiful.

The Oopster
10-26-2011, 01:25 AM
Sad to see Chaz go... but I think he did a wonderful job. He put so much effort into his dancing, and was improving every week. He did the trans community proud :)
The judges, on the other hand, are asses. I never watched DWTS prior to this season, and now that Chaz is gone I don't think I'll watch again. I hated all the snarky, rude comments about size/looks/weight. The show just isn't my cup of tea.

I record the show and fast forward through the judging most of the time. It's much more palatable to me that way. I love watching the dancing.

I had stopped watching other years primarily cause I don't like the judges comments however this year I also usually fast forward through them.

What I have enjoyed seeing this year is I'm not quite sure how to word it .. the people that stereotypically might suceede at this aren't necessarily the ones, they have been the first to go.

I thought it was time for chaz or david arquette to go. Although I was really hoping it would be arquette. I'm sorry it must be his skinny ass making the judges think he's dancing ... cause I've been watching his feet and they haven't been much better then chaz's ... just easier to hide I guess.

I also thought it was cool how rickki lake and nancy grace were motherly to chaz at the end.

Write14u
10-26-2011, 08:07 AM
I thought Chaz got better every week. For the most part, Carrie Ann was on his side, although I think she's a suck-up. I think she sucked up to Chaz, and she sucks to to Rob Kardashian, who is only surviving off his family's name and their tweeting abilities. His craptastic dancing butt needs to go. Heck, I like Nancy Grace better than him now. He just gets on my last nerve because he has done exactly ZERO on his own. Everything he has is off his family's name.

Carrie Ann just has a hard-on for Hope to suddenly turn her awesome athletic body into something else. It's not gonna happen, but that doesn't mean she hasn't improved, as well.

Len is just Len. He gives good advice most of the time, but really did harp on Chaz's weight. Calling him a penguin was out of line. And Bruno is usually pretty good with his critiques but again, calling Chaz an ewok was out of line. I thought Chaz's weight worked against him, but he didn't need to be criticized in that manner for it. I'd love it if Chaz kept dancing, lost weight, and came back as a guest next year and just blew them the eff away.

As for continuing to follow it, I'm not sure how much I will. I was following it because I was intrigued with how Chaz would handle himself. But I do love Ricki and JR now, and I still think Hope rocks, so I will probably try to keep up with it still. As long as something stupid like Kardashian or Arquette making the finals doesn't happen.

Quintease
10-26-2011, 09:16 AM
Oh no, I just heard :(

J. Mason
10-26-2011, 02:03 PM
It was sad to see him go but he did a good job.

~Bo
10-26-2011, 07:02 PM
Cher was a bit pissed in her message on twitter about the judges.

Mel C.
10-26-2011, 07:56 PM
Cher was a bit pissed in her message on twitter about the judges.

Well, she's his mama and she will protect him from bullies. Chaz is lucky to have that kind of support..it helps lessen the pain that all the jerks try to inflict. I love me some Cher...and some Bo

Tommi
10-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Chaz Bono live on The Joy Behar show Thursday Night on HLN.

WolfyOne
10-26-2011, 08:49 PM
This is the first year I've ever watched, too
I think the judges suck and their comments are rude
If it wasn't for Chaz, I would never have turned this show on at all

Vlasta
11-09-2011, 02:06 AM
Is still anybody watching DWTS even since Chaz is gone ? I was obsessed when Chaz was on and so proud of him and thankful what he has done for our community . I can't even imagine how much stress was there for Chaz .

call me biased , but as a soon he finished dance I had two phones in my hand and voting then I went to abc.com .

However, I am still watching this season , because I admire JR with such a positive attitude and as a good dancer even after what he had been trough .

Anyway , just curious.

AtLast
11-09-2011, 04:22 AM
Is still anybody watching DWTS even since Chaz is gone ? I was obsessed when Chaz was on and so proud of him and thankful what he has done for our community . I can't even imagine how much stress was there for Chaz .

call me biased , but as a soon he finished dance I had two phones in my hand and voting then I went to abc.com .

However, I am still watching this season , because I admire JR with such a positive attitude and as a good dancer even after what he had been trough .

Anyway , just curious.

I watched this week- wanted to see how Hope Solo is doing. She made it into the semi-finals.

I thyought Chaz did really well throughout. I miss his being on! Go Hope!

Dominique
11-09-2011, 06:25 AM
I'm just not a television watcher. News, and some sports. I do, however, watch dancing with the stars. I watch it because I love to watch the dancing. The true purpose of the show is to take non dancers, push them through their comfort zones, and make them into some kind of dancer.

I have no opinion of the judges, or the popular opinion. (popularity contest). Heinz ward, last seasons winne,r was not a good dancer, but popular, and ending up winning.

I have loved watching Nancy Grace grow. She is 52 years old, and never once did she complain about her about her body hurting. LOL, she had some issue with her comfot zone expanding. I grew increasingly more fond of her each week.

Hope Solo has done an amazing metamorphosis. Damn, I think she's sexy.
I doubt she'll be able to beat out Jr, or Ricki. But for sure she's far more
talented than Kardashian. I hope to see her make the finals.

I do wonder how much the ratings have dropped now that Chazz and Carson are no longer dancing. As we know, it's ALL ABOUT THE RATINGS.

Tommi
11-09-2011, 08:02 AM
Is still anybody watching DWTS even since Chaz is gone ? I was obsessed when Chaz was on and so proud of him and thankful what he has done for our community . I can't even imagine how much stress was there for Chaz .

call me biased , but as a soon he finished dance I had two phones in my hand and voting then I went to abc.com .

However, I am still watching this season , because I admire JR with such a positive attitude and as a good dancer even after what he had been trough .

Anyway , just curious.

Same here Vlasta, and Hi lady how have you been? (f)

I did the three votes for Chaz. I wished he had better wardrobe, things that would have made him more comfortable, which I think would have helped him. It's all about the wardrobe. ;)

now I vote for Hope Solo, the female jock who has come so far.
I guess JR has all the military votes, and Hope has her sports fans.

Predictions ~ JR to win,
2nd. Ricki Lake
3. Hope
4. Kardashian

ruffryder
11-09-2011, 08:13 AM
I'm still watching. I've been watching DWTS since the initial air. It was great seeing Chaz on there this season, as well as the others. I enjoy watching every year and seeing who is on.

Fancy
11-09-2011, 08:41 AM
I'm just not a television watcher. News, and some sports. I do, however, watch dancing with the stars. I watch it because I love to watch the dancing. The true purpose of the show is to take non dancers, push them through their comfort zones, and make them into some kind of dancer.

I have no opinion of the judges, or the popular opinion. (popularity contest). Heinz ward, last seasons winne,r was not a good dancer, but popular, and ending up winning.

I have loved watching Nancy Grace grow. She is 52 years old, and never once did she complain about her about her body hurting. LOL, she had some issue with her comfot zone expanding. I grew increasingly more fond of her each week.

Hope Solo has done an amazing metamorphosis. Damn, I think she's sexy.
I doubt she'll be able to beat out Jr, or Ricki. But for sure she's far more
talented than Kardashian. I hope to see her make the finals.

I do wonder how much the ratings have dropped now that Chazz and Carson are no longer dancing. As we know, it's ALL ABOUT THE RATINGS.

You wrote word for word what's been going through my mind.

I was very anti-Nancy Grace in the beginning, but I did finally admit that she had made progress. The transformation they all go through is quite impressive.

Write14u
11-09-2011, 02:50 PM
Predictions ~ JR to win,
2nd. Ricki Lake
3. Hope
4. Kardashian

I think you are spot on with this, Tommi. However, the Kardashian vote could get the little do-nothing dipweed ahead of Hope.

Hope Solo has done an amazing metamorphosis. Damn, I think she's sexy.

Agreed! I'm glad she has moved on.

I was very anti-Nancy Grace in the beginning, but I did finally admit that she had made progress. The transformation they all go through is quite impressive.

OK, I admit, Nancy Grace kind of grows on you. I would not have voted for her and surprisingly, she provided the comic relief (wardrobe malfunction and passing gas). Still, she gutted it out.

I would like to see Ricki win it, but I think JR has a lot of momentum.

I haven't been winning the battle for the remote the past two weeks, but I've been keeping up.

Vlasta
11-09-2011, 11:30 PM
I watched this week- wanted to see how Hope Solo is doing. She made it into the semi-finals.

I thyought Chaz did really well throughout. I miss his being on! Go Hope!

I'm just not a television watcher. News, and some sports. I do, however, watch dancing with the stars. I watch it because I love to watch the dancing. The true purpose of the show is to take non dancers, push them through their comfort zones, and make them into some kind of dancer.

I have no opinion of the judges, or the popular opinion. (popularity contest). Heinz ward, last seasons winne,r was not a good dancer, but popular, and ending up winning.

I have loved watching Nancy Grace grow. She is 52 years old, and never once did she complain about her about her body hurting. LOL, she had some issue with her comfot zone expanding. I grew increasingly more fond of her each week.

Hope Solo has done an amazing metamorphosis. Damn, I think she's sexy.
I doubt she'll be able to beat out Jr, or Ricki. But for sure she's far more
talented than Kardashian. I hope to see her make the finals.

I do wonder how much the ratings have dropped now that Chazz and Carson are no longer dancing. As we know, it's ALL ABOUT THE RATINGS.

Same here Vlasta, and Hi lady how have you been? (f)

I did the three votes for Chaz. I wished he had better wardrobe, things that would have made him more comfortable, which I think would have helped him. It's all about the wardrobe. ;)

now I vote for Hope Solo, the female jock who has come so far.
I guess JR has all the military votes, and Hope has her sports fans.

Predictions ~ JR to win,
2nd. Ricki Lake
3. Hope
4. Kardashian

I'm still watching. I've been watching DWTS since the initial air. It was great seeing Chaz on there this season, as well as the others. I enjoy watching every year and seeing who is on.

You wrote word for word what's been going through my mind.

I was very anti-Nancy Grace in the beginning, but I did finally admit that she had made progress. The transformation they all go through is quite impressive.

hi everyone , I am happy that I am not the only one still watching DWTS . I just like this sport and as a young which these days for me is antique I was very much involved in a ballroom dancing .

Tommi I am fine , hanging there and how are you ?

As for DWTS ..... I was exited when Chaz was on and I voted faithfully every week . I was so proud that our community had voice regardless all the haters , FB pages and disrespect calling Chaz she ....on different boards , I have to be honest I was foaming out of my mouth . Chaz was not the best dancer , yet he was improving every week . Just thinking what hy went through , I am boo hoo femme and when I saw Cheer I was boo hooing with her . Moreover, I felt from beginning many people voted for Chaz from our community , but as time went on I saw last support on his FB page . I don't care he wasn't best dancer , but many people voting for they favorite and not by performance , but popularity .

Other thing what was upsetting was Hope , continuously telling her she is not sexy , etc . She is beautiful and she is athlete . I was happy when Maks finally opened his blunt European mouth and defended her . How rude was to call Chez penguin , ewok and even other contestants in the past . Many people want him off of the show due to disagreement with Len.To heterosexual women Maks is very attractive and he has been on the show for a long time , maybe he is tired , needs time off or scene was staged who knows , it's all about the ratings .

I am not sure if I will be able to answer all the posts , but I will try my best .

I think JR should win just because he has no dancing experience and people are saying his ego went up . What ego ? He is so supportive to everyone on the show and yes he is happy for his progress . You always see him congratulate to others and his positive attitude is awesome . he is inspiration many of us what he overcame in his life and he is still so positive .

Ricki , yes she is doing great , yet she has experience , even when was 20 years ago and Derek is a great choreographer which is enormous help to her . Obviously , she wouldn't got role back then if she was stiff at age 20 . She has natural talent to dancing . Advantage !

Rob , I am not a fan of Kardashians , I never watch they show , but to be fair , Rob came with whatever attitude and he made progress in dancing and taking show seriously . I dislike when Kim on the twitter posted his number and stated it's number to Justin Kid . I think that's was very low and dishonest .

Nancy .... I really dislike her , she was GA prosecutor and so many complains on GA Bar and lawsuits settlements against her . I can't watch her show , because she is so arrogant regardless her claim how she fighting for children . She rock up 15 mill + just on Casey Anthony case and she had a great advantage since on HLN every night was a phone number to vote for her . It was good for Tristen since he is new pro and very nice , but I am not sure how did he handle her all this time . She should been gone way before Chaz , yet since she donating money to missing and abuse children , she wasn't vote off for a long time . It's honorable on her part , but this is a dancing competition . Nancy has many other ways to raise money than this way .

ok , my hopes

JR wins
Ricki second
Hope third which is wishful thinking since Kardasian clan make sure that Rob is in finals .

It's always some surprise ..... we will see .

Rockinonahigh
11-10-2011, 01:27 AM
Ive been watching the show since it started,this season isnt as star studed as it usely has been.I was really sorry to see Chaz go cause he tryed hard to get into the danceing,bytime he was voted off I think he got relaxed and improved a whole lot.
JR will prolly win this time,Ricky might by a slim lead but JR lights up the place with his personality and drive just a bit better than Ricky because he is a natural dancer.Hope is doing really good,I just wish the judges would get off this kick about her alethasim(?) being a stumbling block for her,danceing was something she had done little of if any.Dipweed(gotta love it) is there because of the name,plain and simple.I hope(no pun intended) he gets the boot next week..

Vlasta
11-11-2011, 09:58 PM
Ive been watching the show since it started,this season isnt as star studed as it usely has been.I was really sorry to see Chaz go cause he tryed hard to get into the danceing,bytime he was voted off I think he got relaxed and improved a whole lot.
JR will prolly win this time,Ricky might by a slim lead but JR lights up the place with his personality and drive just a bit better than Ricky because he is a natural dancer.Hope is doing really good,I just wish the judges would get off this kick about her alethasim(?) being a stumbling block for her,danceing was something she had done little of if any.Dipweed(gotta love it) is there because of the name,plain and simple.I hope(no pun intended) he gets the boot next week..

I do agree with you , thanks for reply to this thread . I must said something wrong since you are the only one to reply . I am thinking it must been about Maks . Many people were upset and find him rude and disrespectful to the judges . However , how rude are the judges to certain contestants ? Especially to Chaz ? They wanted ratings and ask to Chaz to come on show . He took it as a man that he is , worked hard just to be humiliated by judges with inappropriate comments . For the past two weeks it appears to me , judges cooled down and I feel it would be good to have another judge on the show . I am looking for Monday and see what happens . I will not even denied I want JR to win and I will be voting like crazy .

Rockinonahigh
11-11-2011, 10:18 PM
I doubt u said anything wrong,sometimes I dont even anser some of the post cause they hit the nail right on the head.
Another judge would help tone down some of the snaggy comments plus may balance out some of the points given cause I have notices the judges didcusing the points to give,heck I thought its was a judges right to give the points he thinks he should give not ask the other judges how thay should vote.

imadiva
11-11-2011, 10:22 PM
I loved to watch Chaz make great strides with his dancing career on DWTS. I will not watch it again because I feel he was cut down by the judges and made a fool of at the last dance. He had just started to gain the much needed confidence that would have made him great!

LOVE YOU CHAZ !!!!!!!!!!!! xo Love a Big Boy: !:cherry:xoxo

Leigh
11-11-2011, 10:50 PM
Its completely sad how they cut him down for no reason, I still am watching the show but only because I want J.R. to take it all :)

Vlasta
11-11-2011, 10:56 PM
I loved to watch Chaz make great strides with his dancing career on DWTS. I will not watch it again because I feel he was cut down by the judges and made a fool of at the last dance. He had just started to gain the much needed confidence that would have made him great!

LOVE YOU CHAZ !!!!!!!!!!!! xo Love a Big Boy: !:cherry:xoxo

I agree with everything you said about Chaz , but I love ballroom dancing and I will continue to watch , because JR is such a inspiration and I want him to win .

Rockinonahigh
11-11-2011, 11:00 PM
I personaly think the judges need to be changed after so long judgeing the show,its like they have an iron clad contract or something.Carrie ann isnt to bad,but Len is a dipstick who has sort of been there to long and lost some of his objectivity...Bruno...oh hell I would like to tell him a thing or two about being a classy person but it would got over his head.

Vlasta
11-11-2011, 11:11 PM
I personaly think the judges need to be changed after so long judgeing the show,its like they have an iron clad contract or something.Carrie ann isnt to bad,but Len is a dipstick who has sort of been there to long and lost some of his objectivity...Bruno...oh hell I would like to tell him a thing or two about being a classy person but it would got over his head.

yes , judges should be replaced . CA is suck up whoever she likes and her drama with tears is annoying . Len is the old school which is fine , but this is entertainment show , not professional competition and Bruno is disgrace to gay community .

Rockinonahigh
11-11-2011, 11:19 PM
yes , judges should be replaced . CA is suck up whoever she likes and her drama with tears is annoying . Len is the old school which is fine , but this is entertainment show , not professional competition and Bruno is disgrace to gay community .

I feel the same way about Bruno being imbarrasment to the gay community.Its bad enough we have to deal with the ashats in the straight world but when we do things to hurt eachother,in a real world we would like this would be true but we arent there yet.I often wonder if his masculinity feels chalenged by Chaz in some way..it shouldnt but u never know.

Dominique
11-12-2011, 05:30 AM
[QUOTE=Vlasta;460150 . I was happy when Maks finally opened his blunt European mouth and defended her . Many people want him off of the show due to disagreement with Len.To heterosexual women Maks is very attractive and he has been on the show for a long time , maybe he is tired , needs time off or scene was staged who knows , it's all about the ratings .

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Snipped> Maks has spoken *out of school* on behalf of other partners. As a lesbian, I find Maks very attractive and professional. He has spoken about what some see as a lack of sexy-ness on Hope's behalf *You can't fix what isn't a problem* Hope summed Max's outburst up perfectly, when you work so hard and closely as a team, it's good to know your team mate has your back. Max pushes Hope hard, perhaps harder than any partner he has ever, due to her strong athletic back ground. (he did request her as a partner) Unfortunately, they may not finish on top,(do to the popular opinion) but Mak's has helped Hope learn things about herself she may have never learned, with out this opportunity on DWTS. I also think he has learned some things about his style........

Peach
11-12-2011, 08:16 AM
Max does push Hope, as he pushed all his other partners. But, look how much better Hope danced after training with someone else last week (or the one before I cant recall) she improved incredibly. I think Max pushes to hard at times, and is borderline abusive. I adore him, I want for himto get a win finally, but I dont see him getting one with Hope, JR is just to good!!

Vlasta
11-12-2011, 08:19 PM
Snipped> Maks has spoken *out of school* on behalf of other partners. As a lesbian, I find Maks very attractive and professional. He has spoken about what some see as a lack of sexy-ness on Hope's behalf *You can't fix what isn't a problem* Hope summed Max's outburst up perfectly, when you work so hard and closely as a team, it's good to know your team mate has your back. Max pushes Hope hard, perhaps harder than any partner he has ever, due to her strong athletic back ground. (he did request her as a partner) Unfortunately, they may not finish on top,(do to the popular opinion) but Mak's has helped Hope learn things about herself she may have never learned, with out this opportunity on DWTS. I also think he has learned some things about his style........

Good for you that you as a lesbian find Maks attractive . I wish that I as a lesbian could do the same . Maximum what I can do , I find bio male handsome and I am not saying Maks is not .
Maks rightfully defended Hope and spoke the truth about judges Unfortunately , he had no support from other pros whatsoever except Lacey to a certain point . They all benefited from Maks's outburst . For the past two weeks it's obvious they excluding they vile comments as they said to Chaz . Some others pros were rushing to judges to let them know they do not share the same view as Maks ,for example Karina.
I agree that Maks pushes Hope hard and even being abusive to her which I am including a link for you to listen what Hope had to say about her relationship with Maks. The way I see it ? they don't have chemistry that is important to they performances . They clash . JMO .

In addition , which star did not learned about them self after this competition? It looks so easy on dance floor , but in reality it's completely different story .


http://ryan.kiisfm.com/pages/ryansrecap.html?feed=152739&article=9359596

Vlasta
11-14-2011, 07:01 PM
DWTS fans I am getting ready tune into ABC to watch the show . If anybody is still interested in the show not into any attacks into opinion , please post what do you think ?

thanks

V

Peach
11-14-2011, 09:06 PM
we are ready for it!

betenoire
11-14-2011, 09:24 PM
I totally heart Ricki Lake.

Vlasta
11-14-2011, 10:36 PM
Ok , I want JR to win so much , but being objective he didn't have a good night . Ricki done really well , so Hope and even Rob .

Now , we will have to wait until tomorrow , but if JR goes home it will break my heart :( This is the only show I watch and we will see what happen .

It was sad to see Hope talking about her father . It really got me .

Peach
11-15-2011, 10:22 AM
I so want JR to win, and he didnt do as well last night, hopefully his ankle will heal quickly! I am ready for Hope to leave. rob has totally won my respect, he has improved so much, I like Ricki, but its all Derek, he can make anyone look good, yes, she has to ahve some skill, but his is an amazign choreographer, and thats what they get scored on.

JR al the way for me!

Vlasta
11-15-2011, 02:05 PM
I so want JR to win, and he didnt do as well last night, hopefully his ankle will heal quickly! I am ready for Hope to leave. rob has totally won my respect, he has improved so much, I like Ricki, but its all Derek, he can make anyone look good, yes, she has to ahve some skill, but his is an amazign choreographer, and thats what they get scored on.

JR al the way for me!

I am with you Peach , I feel the same . I am just hoping that JR will get through tonight .

I do not dislike Ricki , but she had a previous experience which none of others had and as you stated she has Derek for partner which it say it all . He is amazing choreographer indeed and he can bring the best out his partners .

ruffryder
11-15-2011, 02:47 PM
Goooo Ricki!!

I wouldn't mind JR winning although, what a strong soul and heart the guy has.. with quite a story !

AtLast
11-15-2011, 03:06 PM
I love Jr & Riki, but feel that Solo continues to be the brunt of catty, anti-female athlete remarks on the show. And it is obvious that Carrie "judges" her negatively on some kind of "this is what real feminity is" scale. Frankly, I understand max's anger. Frankly, I am sick of the high marks given to Rob, especially because Hope Solo is a much better dancer. No, she is not the best and I expect either JR or Riki to win it and can see this. One of them should. And I think Rob Kardashian is a nice guy and has improved, but Hope is better at technique and musicality. Rob is stiff and many of his blown steps are never pointed out by the judges, never. Solo's fluidity is quite good. But she is not part of the Hollywood celeb crowd, now is she?

It was interesting to see what Hope Solo has lived in terms of her father and being abducted by him as a kid. She sure didn't have an enchanted childhood! Throughout the competitiion and actually when I have watched her play soccer, I have always though there is deep sadness in her eyes. Now I know why.

My guess is that Hope will be out tonight and this really bugs me.

Mel C.
11-15-2011, 11:29 PM
Hope was not the weakest link...oops, wrong show.

Peach
11-16-2011, 11:06 AM
part of me was sad to see her go, but at the same time, the other dancers WERE better than her. she was neve going to be as graceful as the pro females, but she shouldnt have been expected to be. I am still all about JR winning.

Vlasta
11-18-2011, 10:55 PM
I forgot all about this thread :(

It was pretty much given that Hope will be the one . It was all over Internet that she was sorry loser WHAT ?
After everything she has been trough ? I don't blame her she didn't want to talk about it and have all kind of interviews .

So Monday are the finals and I am just curious if will be JR or Ricki . Now , if is Rob , I know Kardashians took over the planet Earth .

Peach
11-19-2011, 07:53 AM
she was kinda a sore loser. she hasnt been through anything more than say, Jr, or the others to make her more deserving etc...they are all deserving. her dancing had improved, but not enough, and to tell the judges they can kiss her ass BEFORE she even got her scores was childish at best. Even Maks was trying to make her stop, sort of. robs dancing has improved, way more than hers had, but he still isnt as good as the other two, but you never know, he could pull it off, but I am still all for JR!

AtLast
11-19-2011, 08:14 AM
I forgot all about this thread :(

It was pretty much given that Hope will be the one . It was all over Internet that she was sorry loser WHAT ?
After everything she has been trough ? I don't blame her she didn't want to talk about it and have all kind of interviews .

So Monday are the finals and I am just curious if will be JR or Ricki . Now , if is Rob , I know Kardashians took over the planet Earth .

Solo was treated quite poorly and stereotypically as a female athlete by the judges, especially the woman on this show. Cattiness galore by Carrie throughout and I got really sick of the put downs about her femininity- not all women are girlie-girls and sporty women have their own unique grace. And internal scars are as hurtful as external ones. Although, I think JR is wonderful and one driven person. His Mom sure gave him love and security as a single Mom which helped get him through some hella tough stuff!

She and Chaz have some legitimate complaints. And my heart goes out to her as it does for JR in terms of horrible life events. Rob is not a better dancer than Hope Solo, period. Rob is far behind the technique and musicality of a male lead, which JR has. ahe and Riki also have some raw dance talent- Rob does not. He seems like a nice guy, but it is BS that he is among the top 3 in the finals. Totally Hollywood politics. The male judges see that he is not at the level of JR as a male lead. His footwork is not great.

I don't think she dances as well as Jr or Riki, but she should beat out rob at this point. He has no fluidity and does not have the athleticism that Hope, JR and Riki have in general- and part of dance is athleticism.

JR & Riki ought to be the finalists with one of them the winner. It's hard, because both have become serious dancers throughout the competition and obviously put in the hours.

If Rob takes this, I'm with you- it was bought and paid for.

Dominique
11-19-2011, 12:01 PM
Solo was treated quite poorly and stereotypically as a female athlete by the judges, especially the woman on this show. Cattiness galore by Carrie throughout and I got really sick of the put downs about her femininity- not all women are girlie-girls and sporty women have their own unique grace. And internal scars are as hurtful as external ones. Although, I think JR is wonderful and one driven person. His Mom sure gave him love and security as a single Mom which helped get him through some hella tough stuff!

She and Chaz have some legitimate complaints. And my heart goes out to her as it does for JR in terms of horrible life events. Rob is not a better dancer than Hope Solo, period. Rob is far behind the technique and musicality of a male lead, which JR has. ahe and Riki also have some raw dance talent- Rob does not. He seems like a nice guy, but it is BS that he is among the top 3 in the finals. Totally Hollywood politics. The male judges see that he is not at the level of JR as a male lead. His footwork is not great.

I don't think she dances as well as Jr or Riki, but she should beat out rob at this point. He has no fluidity and does not have the athleticism that Hope, JR and Riki have in general- and part of dance is athleticism.

JR & Riki ought to be the finalists with one of them the winner. It's hard, because both have become serious dancers throughout the competition and obviously put in the hours.

If Rob takes this, I'm with you- it was bought and paid for.

I was so disappointed that this happened. I tried to keep it into perspective, it's all about ratings, not about Dancing. Please, this is not the E channel and the KarTRASHians are not invested in this channel. I thought this was a disney channel(?)......so much for that.

Hope and Mak's were not invited to make a guest appearance on Jimmy Kimmel live/ nor Good Morning America. Unlike all the others in the past. Instead, a decision was made prior to Hope and Maks getting voted off the Island, the producers elected to promote the remaining three
on Kimmel and GMA. Hope went home to the state of Washington and was tweeting away. She is expected to make an appearance, along with Chazz and Carson et/el Tuesday. I WILL NOT BE WATCHING. not that they will care what I am doing.

I have to agree with Hopes' comments, They(the judges) did seem to want her off the show. KarTRASHian, week after week, looks to Cheryl for his next step...he doesn't know his dances. (similar to how Mark Ballas used to count out the dances to Bristol Palin).

I'm hoping DWTS does not go in another direction with Maks. Hope will be fine. In fact, she has her sights set on an olympic gold medal. Carrie Ann and KarTrashian Rob (who has never even had a job) can only dream what that must be like.

I wonder if Beach Volleyball Star Misty May Treanor, would not have been injured earlt in DWTS, and competed longer.....if the view of a female athlete would be different?

I said it before and I'll say it again. I thought Hope was sexy. I thought Maks brought her a long way. They danced well together.:candle:

Vlasta
11-20-2011, 04:55 AM
Solo was treated quite poorly and stereotypically as a female athlete by the judges, especially the woman on this show. Cattiness galore by Carrie throughout and I got really sick of the put downs about her femininity- not all women are girlie-girls and sporty women have their own unique grace. And internal scars are as hurtful as external ones. Although, I think JR is wonderful and one driven person. His Mom sure gave him love and security as a single Mom which helped get him through some hella tough stuff!

She and Chaz have some legitimate complaints. And my heart goes out to her as it does for JR in terms of horrible life events. Rob is not a better dancer than Hope Solo, period. Rob is far behind the technique and musicality of a male lead, which JR has. ahe and Riki also have some raw dance talent- Rob does not. He seems like a nice guy, but it is BS that he is among the top 3 in the finals. Totally Hollywood politics. The male judges see that he is not at the level of JR as a male lead. His footwork is not great.

I don't think she dances as well as Jr or Riki, but she should beat out rob at this point. He has no fluidity and does not have the athleticism that Hope, JR and Riki have in general- and part of dance is athleticism.

JR & Riki ought to be the finalists with one of them the winner. It's hard, because both have become serious dancers throughout the competition and obviously put in the hours.

If Rob takes this, I'm with you- it was bought and paid for.

thanks for this post , my feelings exactly :)

Peach
11-20-2011, 11:11 AM
Solo was treated quite poorly and stereotypically as a female athlete by the judges, especially the woman on this show. Cattiness galore by Carrie throughout and I got really sick of the put downs about her femininity- not all women are girlie-girls and sporty women have their own unique grace..

there have been other female athletes on the show, Shawn Johnson, Kristy Yamaguchi. Both won. Kristy was an easy pic due to her gracefullness from her skating, but Shawn was stocky, short, and not your "typical" female shape, but she still won. *I* feel, Hopes attitude towards any criticizm was her downfall. She got suspended from a soccer team for critisizing the coach for not playing her in a game the team lost, and she was was telling these judges to kiss her ass before they even scored her performances. She WAS good, she did improve, but she still wasnt up the caliber of other dancers, and yet felt she was entitled to higher scores. dont forget, half the scores that sent her home, came from the viewing audience. I felt bad for Maks, he is an amazing dancer, and just once, I would like to see him win!

Dominique
11-20-2011, 12:22 PM
dont forget, half the scores that sent her home, came from the viewing audience!

Since it's reality T.V., we don't even know if that is *true*

After the arranged wedding, I am skeptical of all reality television. :byebye:

Vlasta
11-21-2011, 11:22 PM
I am disgusted by tonight show and judges . I am not even getting exited and start rumbling about it . Kardashian 10's and J.R 7 from Len ?

Peach
11-22-2011, 07:57 AM
to me, Robs first dance was better than JR's, and it pains me to say that! But JR's freestyle was FAB!!! I told my honey that there was a good chance Rob could come from behind and win this, i dont want him to but...........Rickis freestyle was weird and not very good IMO. Still hoping for JR, we shall see tonight!

AtLast
11-22-2011, 01:46 PM
JR has some great technique and has developed so much! Rob too, but he is just not the best. Riki has some real talent. Rob has developed too- but remains stiff. I know I have a rich-kid bias going about him and he is probably a really good guy. But all of those 10s- UGH!! NO!! His steps are not clean.

I loved JR's free-style!! The drum beat interpretation was amazing. He did not do as well wity the other routine and he said he was off, but that "7" was wrong!!

I just feel like it is rigged and frankly wish there was no audience voting. But that is what draws people to the show and $.

I think I am going to be mad tonight at the results.... Either JR or Riki should be the winner and I think Hollywood politics will be present.

It will be kewl to see all the others there tonight and overall, I feel like Chaz did a great job. He isn't really someone that I see as a trans spokeperson, but, I think it was great he did the show. But, it was so damn painful to read some of the things people said on blogs and FB, etc.

GO JR, GO Riki!!

betenoire
11-22-2011, 08:53 PM
Ricki :(

How the hell did that even happen?

I don't think they should let fans vote on the finals. If it was all on the judges Ricki would have won.

Leigh
11-22-2011, 09:13 PM
Go JR Go! :-)

ruffryder
11-22-2011, 09:25 PM
Chaz was dancing tonight. haha! nice. . glad he's such a sport

Vlasta
11-22-2011, 11:47 PM
JR has some great technique and has developed so much! Rob too, but he is just not the best. Riki has some real talent. Rob has developed too- but remains stiff. I know I have a rich-kid bias going about him and he is probably a really good guy. But all of those 10s- UGH!! NO!! His steps are not clean.

I loved JR's free-style!! The drum beat interpretation was amazing. He did not do as well wity the other routine and he said he was off, but that "7" was wrong!!

I just feel like it is rigged and frankly wish there was no audience voting. But that is what draws people to the show and $.

I think I am going to be mad tonight at the results.... Either JR or Riki should be the winner and I think Hollywood politics will be present.

It will be kewl to see all the others there tonight and overall, I feel like Chaz did a great job. He isn't really someone that I see as a trans spokeperson, but, I think it was great he did the show. But, it was so damn painful to read some of the things people said on blogs and FB, etc.

GO JR, GO Riki!!

Thank you for your posts , I am grateful that you can eloquently summarized the episodes . I love this sport , I don't know you , but I understand you have a knowledge and I agree with your assessments of dancers .

I am happy for JR to win , he did deserve it . I don't dislike Rob . I personally think he is one of the best Kardashians . Yet , he is still stiff no matter what .

I was rooting for JR and I was concerned when he ended in the bottom , but then again taking in consideration ratings there must been some suspense .

I can't wait when you post your opinion on the last night show , because I already know I will agree .

Leigh
11-23-2011, 12:00 AM
Tonight was an amazing finale :)

AtLast
11-23-2011, 01:42 PM
I'm thrilled that JR won!!! YES!!

It was great to see all of them back, too. I love it that so many (including Chaz) have stuck around as support and super cheer leaders. Looks like they do get close throughout the season (never watched this show before).

Loved that Chaz's dance has Lacy's Dad in it- it was great! So happy Carson got his "wish"- ;)!

As always, Hope heated my veins and I thought the routine including the costumes were her. I think it was kind of hard for her to wear a lot of the other costumes during the time she was in the competition. She is quite unassuming about her beauty and body.

I have to get over Rob worshipping his father, one of the "Dream Team" lawers that got OJ Simpson off in his double murder trial. Just have a hard time with the Kardashian family living off that legacy. But I know Rob misses his Dad and sees him differently. he did really well obviously, but not my kind of lead, not fluid enough.

WOW, if China had pulled off that routine before, I think we may have had 3 different finalists! I'm so glad she came out there and did it. I really felt terrible for her that night.

Oh, and I am so hapy that JR seems to be dating a great young woman. Plus, his Momma can be so very proud- at all of his achievements and recovery- the guy has one bright soul of light!!