FTM Gear

[Dylan]

Have any recommendations or Definite Do Not Buys to pass along?

Binders, STPs, packers, PNPs, attorneys, doctors, pharmacies, clothes, whatnot...it's all expensive. So, please pass along your recommendations or save us all some cash by telling us what didn't work for you.


Dylan

[Andrew, Jr.]

I use Blowfish, The Transitional Male, and Asian Leather alot.

A huge no-no for gender counseling is Johns Hopkins. They are very anti-glbt.

Underworks for binders.

[atomiczombie]

Underworks has some good compression binders that I use and recommend, not terribly pricey either.

www.underworks.com

[Soon]

I use Blowfish, The Transitional Male, and Asian Leather alot.
A huge no-no for gender counseling is Johns Hopkins. They are very anti-glbt.

Underworks for binders.


I think you may have a typo, Andrew.

Is this the brand? www.aslanleather.com

[Dylan]

What is blowfish?

I use underworks too, but I would really love to find something better. I hate the roll up, and they're just so f'ing uncomfortable. I would really like to find something cooler by summer...


Or A Big Bag Of Money To Pay For Surgery,
Dylan

[Dylan]

Andrew, what do you use Transitional Male for? I know they have a binder program, and they started selling STPs, but I also heard their STPs weren't very good. Have you had different luck? You use aslan for harnesses or what?

I've found the best harness for a pnp is one I made myself (I got the 'recipe' from Hellboi...he has some brilliant ideas).

Also, there's an FTM Foundation I can't remember the complete name of it, but if you search that on youtube, you should be able to find it (although, I will look for it, and come back with the correct name), and they're making a packing harness that looks like it would work really well, and be pretty comfortable.


Dylan

[Linus]

Stay away from Mangos when it comes to STPs. It took them 6 months to finally ship and only after I filed a complaint with the BBB.

DJ Knows Dick isn't too bad and very responsive.

Underworks remains my binder of choice and I've started using their cotton/lycra based binders. These have been working well (a beard has also helped) and are very comfortable. The roll-up issue is reduced. A trick is to also wear a shirt (like an A-shirt) under the binder. I've found this to lessen the roll-up effect. Additionally, making sure the size is right and not going for the ultimate compressing one helps. Those, I find, tend hurt too much and sizing better helps reduce that as well as reduce the roll-up effect.

[Sam]

great thread

[weatherboi]

http://www.ftmprosthetics.com/designer.htm

I am working with this company.

This is also one I looked at working with.

http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home

I realize these arent very cost effective.

[Dylan]

Stay away from Mangos when it comes to STPs. It took them 6 months to finally ship and only after I filed a complaint with the BBB.

DJ Knows Dick isn't too bad and very responsive.

Underworks remains my binder of choice and I've started using their cotton/lycra based binders. These have been working well (a beard has also helped) and are very comfortable. The roll-up issue is reduced. A trick is to also wear a shirt (like an A-shirt) under the binder. I've found this to lessen the roll-up effect. Additionally, making sure the size is right and not going for the ultimate compressing one helps. Those, I find, tend hurt too much and sizing better helps reduce that as well as reduce the roll-up effect.

Yeah, I've heard nothing but nightmarish stories about Mango...same deal as yours that stuff never got shipped. And then, when it finally did arrive, it didn't work well. I've been thinking about making my own STP (recipe alla youtube). I just don't see why I would pay someone else to do it when I have all the pieces laying around my house for free.

Although, I have heard wonderful things about DJ Knows Dick.

Also, if you go to the pharmacy area of Target, they'll give you medicine spoons for free. I found this out when I went to ask them where they keep the medicine spoons. They just offered them up. The medicine spoon is great, but dammit it takes a lot of practice. And you can't wait too long.

For those who can't master the medicine spoon, I've heard about something bigger for female(bodied) campers (christ, my brain is fried today, I can't remember the names of anything). I've seen guys use that attached to an stp. I haven't tried this myself tho, so I can't offer any sort of recommendation.

And then there's the uber cheap, coffee can lid idea which works well too.


Dylan

[Linus]

Well, there are a couple:

Go-Girl: http://www.go-girl.com/how-to-get-gogirl.asp

Female Freedom: http://www.femalefreedom.ca/

[Dylan]

http://www.ftmprosthetics.com/designer.htm

I am working with this company.

This is also one I looked at working with.

http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home

Please let us know if it's worth the cost. I've seen guys order something similar, but then, we never hear back.


Thanks,
Dylan

[Waldo]

Dylan - I've used the Underworks T-shirt/binder dealio for a couple years. Granted, I'm not trying to pass for male, so my being pleased with the result may not matter.

They come long so they can be tucked in nicely. I've never had an issue with them rolling up and this kid has HIPS.

I would, however, NOT recommend their FTM swimsuit. That rolls and is uncomfortable as hell. And the bottoms are really just god awful.

[Dylan]

Dylan - I've used the Underworks T-shirt/binder dealio for a couple years. Granted, I'm not trying to pass for male, so my being pleased with the result may not matter.

They come long so they can be tucked in nicely. I've never had an issue with them rolling up and this kid has HIPS.

I would, however, NOT recommend their FTM swimsuit. That rolls and is uncomfortable as hell. And the bottoms are really just god awful.

I'm wondering how much of my rolling issue has to do with the 35lbs I've gained right smack in Mahhh Belly. I'm going to try the t-shirt-underneath trick and see if that works until those 6pack abs I ordered arrive (or until I do 1000 sit ups a day).


Dylan...needs to work out

[Waldo]

this is the one I was referring to: http://www.underworks.com/images/974.jpg I may not have been clear in my previous post.

Hope it helps.

[Linus]

Dylan - I've used the Underworks T-shirt/binder dealio for a couple years. Granted, I'm not trying to pass for male, so my being pleased with the result may not matter.

They come long so they can be tucked in nicely. I've never had an issue with them rolling up and this kid has HIPS.

I would, however, NOT recommend their FTM swimsuit. That rolls and is uncomfortable as hell. And the bottoms are really just god awful.

Interesting. I got the FTM swimsuit and love the top a lot (the bottom is weird). Again, this might be a sizing issue. I have a little more than 35 lbs to lose (damn Canadian beer belly) and actually found the swimsuit top great at compacting without discomfort (except for armpits -- little bit of trimming will resolve that).

[Waldo]

this is the one I was referring to: http://www.underworks.com/images/974.jpg I may not have been clear in my previous post.

Hope it helps.

[Sam]

Ultimate Chest Binder Tank
Double Front Compression Shirt
Style 997 Color: White or Black
Size - fits Chest: X-small 29-31 / Small 32-34 /
Medium 35-39 / Large 40-44 / X-large 45-48
Price: $29.99 / 3 for 84.99

Size - fits Chest: 2X 48-52 / 3X 53-56
Price: $36.99 / 3 for 104.99

I have found its great for the money. Its tight even with great measurements, but does the job

[NotAnAverageGuy]

Thanks for all the links guys

I will check em out when my head aint cloudy

[DapperButch]

www.t-kingdom.com for binders

Model 801 is GREAT for the summer. Light, but strong.

I also have Model 1700.

Both excellent choices. For a couple of bucks they will customize their binders for you.

I wouldn't hesitate purchasing any binder from these guys. The comparison chart is also very helpful.

[Linus]

www.t-kingdom.com (http://www.t-kingdom.com) for binders

Model 801 is GREAT for the summer. Light, but strong.

I also have Model 1700.

Both excellent choices. For a couple of bucks they will customize their binders for you.

I wouldn't hesitate purchasing any binder from these guys. The comparison chart is also very helpful.


Aren't they designed for small guys?

[DapperButch]

Aren't they designed for small guys?


I don't think so? A few years ago it wasn't for guys taller than 5'6", but now I think it runs up to 5'9" in height.

Ok, just looked. 5'9" and 188 lbs. 40-42 chest. (XXL)

That is the largest size.

Check out size chart.

But, the custom sizing is an idea, too if you can't find your size.

[weatherboi]

Aren't they designed for small guys?

I am not small chest size. On the end of large actually. My weight and height are average I guess.

I use tkingdom 1700 in combination with an underworks product. PLus a shirt...plus another!! Sheesh! I am surprised I can breath or move at all some days!!LOL

I didnt want to go tkingdom but I could nt get what I needed from underworks. Had to go with the combo! It doesnt roll up cause it is pretty long which works for me.

[MsDemeanor]

http://www.ftmprosthetics.com/designer.htm

I am working with this company.


Please let us know if it's worth the cost. I've seen guys order something similar, but then, we never hear back.

I can vouch for ftmprosthetics, and the dual was worth the cost to us. Joseph makes a great product and was excellent in communications when we dealt with him a few years ago.

We're looking around at what other companies are making, just to see if there's anything better around. If anyone has experience with similar products, I'd love to hear from you. (It's okay to send a PM if you're not comfortable discussing this stuff in public.)

[Logicaly]

I use the binder from Underworks too and get some serious rolling going on, but I think part of that is due to my hips and my stomach.

I heard that if you cut a slit in the sides, that takes some of the pressure off and stops the rolling, but I havent tried that yet, any thoughts on this? Anyone given it a try?

[TCB]

Great thread :)

Anybody got any swim gear recommendations?

I've purchased through Mango before, although I didn't have a delivery issue...I wasn't too thrilled with the product. Not to mention how pricey they are.

Underworks has served it's purpose lol. Not my ideal situation, but it's gonna have to do.

[The Oopster]

Great thread :)

Anybody got any swim gear recommendations?

I've purchased through Mango before, although I didn't have a delivery issue...I wasn't too thrilled with the product. Not to mention how pricey they are.

Underworks has served it's purpose lol. Not my ideal situation, but it's gonna have to do.

damn lost my post

never tried mango.

no swim gear recommendations.

have had best luck with underworks so far. Tried one other product and only thing i ended up with was losing money in returning everything. I would like to try the t-kingdom though was i have a job. They didn't cover my size before so it's nice to see that they have added on for us taller people.

I did try the suggestion of wearing a shirt under the binder and found that it helps minimize the rolling and for the rolling that still happens it acts as a buffer so it doesn't dig into the skin. Just don't like having to wear so many layers. Okay for this time of the year. Not okay in the summer.

Don't know if anyone has posted this. will post it again.

http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/ftmstuff.html

I have not ordered the stud but in the past Nick also had available the utube which is the device inserted in the soft packer. I use to order that then a cheap packer and insert it myself. Right now it doesn't look like he is selling it seperately. Maybe that will differ once the new site is up.

I have used the cock sock but find the velcro can be a pain, figuratively and literally. I have a protype of underwear in my brain that I would like to try making I just haven't had the time or energy. If any femmes are reading this and are into sewing maybe you can shoot me a message and we can work on something together. i basically want to build the concept of the cock sock into a pair of underwear, so nothing has to be attached and everything sits just right and nothing will fall out. I don't think it will be that hard. the hardest part for me would be figuring out how to work the sewing machine my roomie got, no instruction book.

Nick has always been good with the stuff i have ordered from him. Quick and reliable and when there has been a delay he has has always kept me in the loop.

http://www.ftmguide.org/index.html

is another site i have used that i'm not sure if it's been listed yet.

http://www.whenyagottago.com/

I really like this peeing device on it's own, just hard to hide discretely but a great device especially for the beginner and found it much easier to use then the utube which is what is used in the stud urniary packer.

actually lately i've gotten lazy and sit most of the time. My bathroom access is limited so when I'm in there i try to make use of it.

[Leigh]

I'm also finding this thread very helpful and will definately try some of these things in the future as well :thumbsup:

[Dylan]

I haven't used Mango products at all. I've heard too many horror stories about the shipping issues.

Just found a great great FTM site. I'll PM folks with the address, or PM me if you want to know about it. It's a great FTM-only site with forums, groups, chat, etc.


Dylan

[weatherboi]

This is the company I will be going with. The reasons boiled down to urintion systems.
http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home


Joseph from ftm prothetics was helpful in telling me he was working on a system. I look forward to trying his products in the future because his customer service is awesome!!

[firie]

This is the company I will be going with. The reasons boiled down to urintion systems.
http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home


Joseph from ftm prothetics was helpful in telling me he was working on a system. I look forward to trying his products in the future because his customer service is awesome!!

This is Dylan, posting as Firie, because she's makin' breakfast, and I didn't realize she'd logged in. At any rate, I wanted to thank you for the info. The STP part of their products look comfortable...wayyyy more comfortable than everyone else's favorite...the medicine spoon (which I am having a hard time getting consistent results with)


Anyways, Wanted To Explain The 'Thanked Post' From Mahhh Woman,
Dylan

[The Oopster]

This is the company I will be going with. The reasons boiled down to urintion systems.
http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home


Joseph from ftm prothetics was helpful in telling me he was working on a system. I look forward to trying his products in the future because his customer service is awesome!!

This is Dylan, posting as Firie, because she's makin' breakfast, and I didn't realize she'd logged in. At any rate, I wanted to thank you for the info. The STP part of their products look comfortable...wayyyy more comfortable than everyone else's favorite...the medicine spoon (which I am having a hard time getting consistent results with)


Anyways, Wanted To Explain The 'Thanked Post' From Mahhh Woman,
Dylan

The only place i could see the stp device at all was on the infos page is that the only place they have info on it or did people find some info in another place.

If anyone gets this I would like to know how they like it ... definitely does look better then the system i'm use to. I tend to sit just because i don't want to risk leakage! :rant: Plus has anyone gone so far to see what the costs convert over to in dollars?

[SFFemmePrincess]

Stay away from Mangos when it comes to STPs. It took them 6 months to finally ship and only after I filed a complaint with the BBB.

DJ Knows Dick isn't too bad and very responsive.

Underworks remains my binder of choice and I've started using their cotton/lycra based binders. These have been working well (a beard has also helped) and are very comfortable. The roll-up issue is reduced. A trick is to also wear a shirt (like an A-shirt) under the binder. I've found this to lessen the roll-up effect. Additionally, making sure the size is right and not going for the ultimate compressing one helps. Those, I find, tend hurt too much and sizing better helps reduce that as well as reduce the roll-up effect.

So I peruse these threads looking for tidbits to share with Logic and I'm curious...how do you manage to get into your binder with a shirt under it? He has been pulling it up to get it on and I can't figure how to make that work logistically...any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks! :)

[Linus]

So I peruse these threads looking for tidbits to share with Logic and I'm curious...how do you manage to get into your binder with a shirt under it? He has been pulling it up to get it on and I can't figure how to make that work logistically...any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks! :)

Pulling it up? What kind of binder is it? I pull mine over my head. Even with the stronger compression ones I do this. Anything tighter and it may be too tight and that could be dangerous. I've talked with other FTMs who have hurt their back and nearly crushed their ribs with binders that are too tight.

[The Oopster]

So I peruse these threads looking for tidbits to share with Logic and I'm curious...how do you manage to get into your binder with a shirt under it? He has been pulling it up to get it on and I can't figure how to make that work logistically...any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks! :)

Does he use the full length or tri top? If I use the full length I have to step into it. But I rarely use it.

I've been usin the tri top with a shirt under and actually have found it easier to take the binder off and on. I put that one on over head.

I have a rash guard and a sports compression shirt which seems to work the best underneath it

[Logicaly]

Yeah, I have to step into mine, theres no way its going over my head. That being said, which tri top one are you using? And as for the sports compression shirt, what one did you find that seems to work good?

I have two different binders thus far, and the first one, well I may as not even be wearing one it was no different then a sports bra as far as compression goes. However the one I have now, works great, but it rolls, hence the needing to wear something under it.

[The Oopster]

Yeah, I have to step into mine, theres no way its going over my head. That being said, which tri top one are you using? And as for the sports compression shirt, what one did you find that seems to work good?

I have two different binders thus far, and the first one, well I may as not even be wearing one it was no different then a sports bra as far as compression goes. However the one I have now, works great, but it rolls, hence the needing to wear something under it.

http://www.underworks.com/983.html is the trip top i wear. I'm not sure where i got the sports compression shirt. It doesn't work for compression though, I was hoping it would be good enough for around the house, however the fabric it is made of seems to do the best for being under the binder. (it's a new balance shirt 80% polyester and 20% lycra and spandex)
my binder still rolls with a shirt under I just don't feel it like I use to. The funny thing is I thought a thicker t-shirt would lessen the pressure and it's just the opposite. The thinner slippery shirts work best under. Sometimes I have my binders on for 14+ hours and currently it isn't so bad. Before just a few hours in and it would be hurting. I was gettin really bad bruises on my ribs and sometimes sores. Since putting the shirt under. It still leaves marks but not the bruising it was leaving.

Plus it slides right on and off with the other shirt. Especially if I'm damp from the shower or sweating. Sometimes I would get stuck half way but have no problems with a shirt under.

[Andrea]

I just posted some chest binders on Queerbay. Paying it forward so the only cost is $5 shipping.

Andrea

[always2late]

Very expensive...but holy cow!

http://www.tyron2.net/index.html

[Liam]

Very expensive...but holy cow!

http://www.tyron2.net/index.html

I never thought I would drool over a penis or a penis substitute, but well, I want one of these.

[TCB]

that thing looks incredible...but $1600!! Damn....

[Gemme]

Very expensive...but holy cow!

http://www.tyron2.net/index.html

What a wonderful product! I wonder when they will begin to accept new orders again.

[Linus]

What a wonderful product! I wonder when they will begin to accept new orders again.

On an FTM board that I'm part of, one member commented that while the product is good it's way expensive for what you get. Additionally, apparently the developer is working on an STP model (2011?). I believe if you contact the creator on the website, he does take orders for phase 2 versions.

[Andrew, Jr.]

I have penis envy now! Whoa boy! :heartbeat:

[Galahad]

Anything that would help? This year I'm the running messenger boy at work and it's over 100 degrees. Should I eat more salt?

[Corkey]

Anything that would help? This year I'm the running messenger boy at work and it's over 100 degrees. Should I eat more salt?

In a word, yes, but instead of table salt, get some electrolyte water, Gatorade, et all. And take some more potassium and magnesium for the cramps.

[The Oopster]

Anything that would help? This year I'm the running messenger boy at work and it's over 100 degrees. Should I eat more salt?

I definitely don't envy you! I'm a messenger/courrier and had my top surgery this spring partly cause i couldn't do the job and bind another summer! Things that helped are

1) I know we tend to think the tighter the better. But when i had the appropriate size binder things worked much better.

2) I don't remember adding salt but I do try to drink about a gallon of water. I naturally drink more on the hotter days.

[Blade]

ON THE SUBJECT OF SOFT PACKING.........
Since I've noticed some members mention they don't like cock socks, I am looking for your experiences on these three products before I decide which one to buy.

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/mr-right-packing-strap

OR

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/cock-sock

OR

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/deluxe-packing-pouch

If you've used any of these which one do you like best?

If you can help a brother out, I would appreciate suggestions on any other products out there.

[Corkey]

Try here.
http://www.tranzwear.net/store.php/TranZwear/pg5694/whats_new

[T D]

I use these for my soft packer. The elastic band simply goes around my waist along with my underwear. Balls go in the mess part and the cock goes through the hole. It's damn near impossible to drop it (or any other kind of accident) with this thing.

I wanted to add that I wear this with Jockey underwear that have the pouch and opening at the top of the pouch, not underwear that open along the side. It's too easy for yer stuff to fall out of those type.


http://www.internationaljock.com/at-suspensory,8502.html

[~Bo]

ON THE SUBJECT OF SOFT PACKING.........
Since I've noticed some members mention they don't like cock socks, I am looking for your experiences on these three products before I decide which one to buy.

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/mr-right-packing-strap

OR

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/cock-sock

OR

http://store.babeland.com/harnesses-thigh-more/deluxe-packing-pouch

If you've used any of these which one do you like best?

If you can help a brother out, I would appreciate suggestions on any other products out there.






The problem I've had with these is that since there are no leg straps, they tend to ride up. And you end up with your cock higher than it should be. LOL :shocking:

[Alpha Dog]

Has anyone used LolaJake? www.lolajake.com I've been looking and want to order but would like to hear from anybody who's actually purchased from them first. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[weatherboi]

the harnesses i have been using over the years, for many reasons,drive me crazy. i have been searching for some underwear that has a inner front pouch for packing and also doesn't lose shape after short time wash and wear. i hate saggy drawers. the other day Ms was watching some morning show and they showcased some male enhancement underwear i am gonna try this summer.

http://www.andrewchristianshop.com/AllProducts.aspx?Topcid=311

:mohawk:

[Mike]

the harnesses i have been using over the years, for many reasons,drive me crazy. i have been searching for some underwear that has a inner front pouch for packing and also doesn't lose shape after short time wash and wear. i hate saggy drawers. the other day Ms was watching some morning show and they showcased some male enhancement underwear i am gonna try this summer.

http://www.andrewchristianshop.com/AllProducts.aspx?Topcid=311

:mohawk:

These have a pouch you can sew the bottom up or not, nothing falls out, comes in brief and boxer brief

http://www.jockey.com/products/Jockey-Pouch-Boxer-Brief-2-Pack

http://www.jockey.com/products/Jockey-Pouch-Low-Rise-Brief-2-pack

[DapperButch]

These have a pouch you can sew the bottom up or not, nothing falls out, comes in brief and boxer brief

http://www.jockey.com/products/Jockey-Pouch-Boxer-Brief-2-Pack

http://www.jockey.com/products/Jockey-Pouch-Low-Rise-Brief-2-pack

Reminds me of buying a jock strap with a hard cup and putting a packy in its place (except better). Good find!

ETA: Just figured out weatherboi's is a similar concept!

[iamkeri1]

Hi Y'all,
I just saw this compression undershirt advertised on TV. It's lots cheaper than other compression shirts I've seen, so I thought I'd pass it along. I know nothing of it's quality, but maybe someone else will have more information.
Smooches,
Keri

https://www.getslimtsnow.com/flare/next?rtag=tryslimts

[Jet]

I used Asian leather pack and strap

I hate em both and never pack—I hate packing....as though thats gonna make me feel more like a man. Bullshit.

I never used binders cuz I don't need one.

And the other thing I hate is to have a woman try and suck my strap on...it's fake and it makes me sick so i don't allow it.

[Ebon]

Very expensive...but holy cow!

http://www.tyron2.net/index.html

Damn that looks awesome!

[Thinker]

I used Asian leather pack and strap

I hate em both and never pack—I hate packing....as though thats gonna make me feel more like a man. Bullshit.

I never used binders cuz I don't need one.

And the other thing I hate is to have a woman try and suck my strap on...it's fake and it makes me sick so i don't allow it.

Jet, this isn't very helpful or supportive.

I understand these are your opinions, and that's certainly not a problem. But it feels awfully judgmental, and that's the part that is not okay.

If you have used products that you don't think others should spend money on, then state that. But please refrain from making such loaded statements (bolded text) that can be damaging to others who come here.

If you have questions regarding this moderation, please contact me via PM.

Thinker (moderator)

[waxnrope]

Has anyone used LolaJake? www.lolajake.com I've been looking and want to order but would like to hear from anybody who's actually purchased from them first. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

this was interesting post. Now I wonder if anyone has tried it. The site appears to be early in product development. See the Sam review by one user who stated that the rod was too long. The admin offered to send a shorter one for about $75 (or some such pricey tag). WTF? They should send the right size rod or replace it for free given the cost of these products.
But, I digress. I found it interesting ... thanks, Alpha

[Linus]

Stay away from Mangos when it comes to STPs. It took them 6 months to finally ship and only after I filed a complaint with the BBB.

DJ Knows Dick isn't too bad and very responsive.

Underworks remains my binder of choice and I've started using their cotton/lycra based binders. These have been working well (a beard has also helped) and are very comfortable. The roll-up issue is reduced. A trick is to also wear a shirt (like an A-shirt) under the binder. I've found this to lessen the roll-up effect. Additionally, making sure the size is right and not going for the ultimate compressing one helps. Those, I find, tend hurt too much and sizing better helps reduce that as well as reduce the roll-up effect.

I've had a few ask me what an A-Shirt is. Here's an example: http://tinyurl.com/4gc7uwb

[DapperButch]

the harnesses i have been using over the years, for many reasons,drive me crazy. i have been searching for some underwear that has a inner front pouch for packing and also doesn't lose shape after short time wash and wear. i hate saggy drawers. the other day Ms was watching some morning show and they showcased some male enhancement underwear i am gonna try this summer.

http://www.andrewchristianshop.com/AllProducts.aspx?Topcid=311

:mohawk:




http://www.andrewchristianshop.com/Show-It-at-Andrew-Christian-CID307.aspx

Same site as weatherboi's, however a different style. It is called "show it" and there is a pouch in front where guys put their junk that lifts it up to give a sense of "enhancement". It looks as though it is deep enough that a small packy (one of the 3.5 inch ones), could fit and not fall out. Watch the video to see the pocket itself.

(click on one of the pics and you will see video bottom right)

I like the look of the other ones more (wider waistbands), but these are a bit cheaper.

[T D]

this was interesting post. Now I wonder if anyone has tried it. The site appears to be early in product development. See the Sam review by one user who stated that the rod was too long. The admin offered to send a shorter one for about $75 (or some such pricey tag). WTF? They should send the right size rod or replace it for free given the cost of these products.
But, I digress. I found it interesting ... thanks, Alpha

The rod looks to me like it would hurt too. So I'm wonderin about that. Plus they don't sell the required adhesive glue stuff.

[sharkchomp]

I checked out the sites and while the products look great there's always one or two things that I don't like about them. So this has me thinking... I've bought plastics that you heat up and pour into molds to make fishing lures... I wonder if there is a silicone dildo kit or if you can buy the silicone and make your own mold (which is what I'd do). I would prefer silicone as opposed to rubber. Does anyone have any info on this? Thanks

~~~shark~~~~~~~

[Ebon]

I checked out the sites and while the products look great there's always one or two things that I don't like about them. So this has me thinking... I've bought plastics that you heat up and pour into molds to make fishing lures... I wonder if there is a silicone dildo kit or if you can buy the silicone and make your own mold (which is what I'd do). I would prefer silicone as opposed to rubber. Does anyone have any info on this? Thanks

~~~shark~~~~~~~

http://www.makeyourowndildo.com/gallery.php

[kannon]

Hi Y'all,
I just saw this compression undershirt advertised on TV. It's lots cheaper than other compression shirts I've seen, so I thought I'd pass it along. I know nothing of it's quality, but maybe someone else will have more information.
Smooches,
Keri

https://www.getslimtsnow.com/flare/next?rtag=tryslimts

I just bought the binder. It will be my first, so I don't have anything to compare it with but I'll let you know what I think of it. Thanks again. :cigar2:

[DapperButch]

Many butches/FTMs have used the Frog bra from title nine sports alone or in conjunction with binders. I have been meaning to come on to post to let folks know that title nine is no longer making it, and evidently, the replacement sucks according to the comments and riot over the discontinuation of the Frog Bra. Supposedly, it was discontinued b/c they were unable to get the fabric they had gotten in the past.

Here is the replacement.

http://www.titlenine.com/product/bounce/wireless-bras/320922.do?sortby=ourPicks#

[TCB]

Hi Y'all,
I just saw this compression undershirt advertised on TV. It's lots cheaper than other compression shirts I've seen, so I thought I'd pass it along. I know nothing of it's quality, but maybe someone else will have more information.
Smooches,
Keri

https://www.getslimtsnow.com/flare/next?rtag=tryslimts

thanks for this. Has anyone tried this? I gather the mid section compression would be good...but what about Chest compression?

[TCB]

I just bought the binder. It will be my first, so I don't have anything to compare it with but I'll let you know what I think of it. Thanks again. :cigar2:

Any feedback on the chest compression?

[Blade]

I have found a product made of X5 materials. Does anyone have any experience with X5 materials or know what they are.

Is it or does it contain silicone? The product description says...."Made from X5 a unique material with superior properties. Most importantly, it's phthalates free for safe fun.

If anyone can help I'd appreciate it.

[kannon]

Any feedback on the chest compression?

It didn't work well. I'm not satisfied w it. It's hard to put on and doesn't compress much more than a good sports bra.

It's my first experience w one so I don't have anything to compare it to. It would be nice to have one that I could put on and adjust like a vest.

[The Oopster]

It didn't work well. I'm not satisfied w it. It's hard to put on and doesn't compress much more than a good sports bra.

It's my first experience w one so I don't have anything to compare it to. It would be nice to have one that I could put on and adjust like a vest.

What size are you? I have 4 binders i'm willing to send people. I would prefer to split them up. (That is give them to atleast 2 people)

i have a medium black and white Tri-top Chest Binder - Extreme Binder Waist Length from http://ftm.underworks.com/

I have another black tri-top that seems smaller so i'm guessing that it is a small.

I have a white Double Front Compression Shirt. I think it is also a medium.

I'm 5'8" and around 160 lbs for an idea of my size and i think the small was when i was around 140 lbs.

If I needed any, anymore I would be tempted to get the Extreme Chest Concealer FTM Chest Binder Extreme! Chest Only Compression! Relaxed Mid-Section!

[kannon]

I'm not sure what the double front compression shirt is but it sounds good. I'm short but pretty stocky - about150. The small one i bought might be too small. The binders are really hard to pull over my shoulders and down my chest and waist. I appreciate the offer and would love to try em. I can send u my addy and I'll pay for the shipping.

[Linus]

For those looking for info on various compression shirts and such you might want to visit the following: http://chestbinders.wordpress.com/

[TCB]

I'm not sure what the double front compression shirt is but it sounds good. I'm short but pretty stocky - about150. The small one i bought might be too small. The binders are really hard to pull over my shoulders and down my chest and waist. I appreciate the offer and would love to try em. I can send u my addy and I'll pay for the shipping.

I would recommend anything with double front compression. When you buy them new, it's always most uncomfortable because they are not worn in.
I wouldn't recommend putting them on over your shoulders. Try stepping into it, and pulling it up. MUCH easier.

[kannon]

I would say 60 % of people address me as a man now. I'm thinking I should just go ahead and have top surgery and get rid of 'em. I get down every time I see or am aware of them. I notice people looking at my chest in a perplexing way. *shakes head* Most of the time I can conceal them but not always 100%. It takes a combo of binding and wearing the right type of clothes. I just want them to go away. Disappear. Poof.:fastdraq:

[Alpha Dog]

http://www.likerealusa.com/shop/english/home

LIKE REAL prostheses are made by employing the latest technologies used
in Hollywood film productions. Our prostheses are the result of science development and extraordinary
solutions which were applied while shooting Matrix, Terminator, Lord of the Rings
and many, many other films.

[wolfbittenpoet]

http://www.likerealusa.com/shop/english/home

LIKE REAL prostheses are made by employing the latest technologies used
in Hollywood film productions. Our prostheses are the result of science development and extraordinary
solutions which were applied while shooting Matrix, Terminator, Lord of the Rings
and many, many other films.

These are impressive but so is the price.

I've found that you can end up with an adhesive allergy after a while using prostheses that adhere directly to skin. If this occurs I recommend switching off to a harness only model for a while or the jockstrap method while you reacclimate.

[Guy]

They would be more impressive, but I don't care for flat balls


http://www.likerealusa.com/shop/english/home

LIKE REAL prostheses are made by employing the latest technologies used
in Hollywood film productions. Our prostheses are the result of science development and extraordinary
solutions which were applied while shooting Matrix, Terminator, Lord of the Rings
and many, many other films.

[wolfbittenpoet]

Does anyone have a highheat summer friendly binder? I use the underworks cotton concealer series right now. But that extra layer is horrible in the humidity.

[DapperButch]

Does anyone have a highheat summer friendly binder? I use the underworks cotton concealer series right now. But that extra layer is horrible in the humidity.

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page801_english.shtml

They will also custom make your binder if you can't find your size.

[The Oopster]

Does anyone have a highheat summer friendly binder? I use the underworks cotton concealer series right now. But that extra layer is horrible in the humidity.

I think that might be an oxymoron!

[wolfbittenpoet]

I think that might be an oxymoron!

Probably but one can dream.

[DapperButch]

Probably but one can dream.

The one I posted really is much cooler than most. It does stretch a bit more quickly than most, however.

As a side note, I find all the t-kingdom binders to be better quality/comfort than any other brand I have owned. The velcro binders can't be beat.

[kannon]

The one I posted really is much cooler than most. It does stretch a bit more quickly than most, however.

As a side note, I find all the t-kingdom binders to be better quality/comfort than any other brand I have owned. The velcro binders can't be beat.

thanks for the tip DP.

[kannon]

I have a couple of slim Ts size small binders that are still sealed in plastic if anyone wants one. I didn't like them. They didn't work for me but they might work for a size A or small B. If you want to cover the shipping I'll definitely send them. They were like $25 each.

[Dakota]

Does anyone know where I can purchase cock sock?

[JustJ]

Does anyone know where I can purchase cock sock?

I think the toolshed might have what you're looking for. They have a couple different options.

http://www.toolshedtoys.com/results.php?secondary=124

[Dakota]

Thanks for the info. It must be a big seller, every site I go to there all sold out..

[kannon]

The one I posted really is much cooler than most. It does stretch a bit more quickly than most, however.

As a side note, I find all the t-kingdom binders to be better quality/comfort than any other brand I have owned. The velcro binders can't be beat.

I bought one of the velcro binders from t-kingdom and it's awesome. I love it. It works great.

[DapperButch]

I bought one of the velcro binders from t-kingdom and it's awesome. I love it. It works great.

Glad to hear it! :hangloose:

[weatherboi]

http://www.toolshedtoys.com/details.php?prodId=1610

[The Oopster]

www.tranzwear.net/

might interest some people. Never have ordered from here but just found this the other day. Posted it in another thread but figured it should go here also.

[DapperButch]

www.t-kingdom.com for binders

Model 801 is GREAT for the summer. Light, but strong.

I also have Model 1700.

Both excellent choices. For a couple of bucks they will customize their binders for you.

I wouldn't hesitate purchasing any binder from these guys. The comparison chart is also very helpful.

I was just ordering a new binder and I saw that the additional cost to customize your binder is $21.57. That is a lot more than the $6.00 it was last time I checked! (which I always thought was a crazy price anyway, since they ask you to send them like 8 different measurements or your torso...). I'm lucky they have my size.

[Corkey]

I was just ordering a new binder and I saw that the additional cost to customize your binder is $21.57. That is a lot more than the $6.00 it was last time I checked! (which I always thought was a crazy price anyway, since they ask you to send them like 8 different measurements or your torso...)


I'm the size of a linebacker, they just don't fit. I do love to breathe.

[DapperButch]

the harnesses i have been using over the years, for many reasons,drive me crazy. i have been searching for some underwear that has a inner front pouch for packing and also doesn't lose shape after short time wash and wear. i hate saggy drawers. the other day Ms was watching some morning show and they showcased some male enhancement underwear i am gonna try this summer.

http://www.andrewchristianshop.com/AllProducts.aspx?Topcid=311

:mohawk:

Hey, guys, I stumbled onto a review of this underwear.

http://transguys.com/product-reviews/shock-jock-enhancing-underwear

[Linus]

The only issue I see with the shock jocks is that they are sized small (XL is a 36 :blink: )

[Corkey]

The only issue I see with the shock jocks is that they are sized small (XL is a 36 :blink: )


LOL I haven't seen 36 in years :mohawk:

[wolfbittenpoet]

if you have gay male friends ask around with them. there are new andrew christians ive seen or maybe andrew christian knockoffs that are going bigger sizes. Jockey also has some styles with an inner pouch that are nice. My favorite pair are called I believe euro trunks they have a decent pouch fit snugly dont droop and are a nice nylon microfiber that is soft and cool.

[kannon]

I was just ordering a new binder and I saw that the additional cost to customize your binder is $21.57. That is a lot more than the $6.00 it was last time I checked! (which I always thought was a crazy price anyway, since they ask you to send them like 8 different measurements or your torso...). I'm lucky they have my size.

I ordered 2 more binders from t-kingdom.com on May 22 and haven't received them yet. I sent them an email last Sunday the 13th and got no response. I sent them a 2nd email on Friday 17th and haven't received a response. I'm going to send them one final email today.

Has anyone else had problems with them?

$160 lost in the republic of castro.

[DapperButch]

I ordered 2 more binders from t-kingdom.com on May 22 and haven't received them yet. I sent them an email last Sunday the 13th and got no response. I sent them a 2nd email on Friday 17th and haven't received a response. I'm going to send them one final email today.

Has anyone else had problems with them?

$160 lost in the republic of castro.

I haven't. This is my third order from them.

I ordered from them on 6/11/11 and received an email from paypal (even though I didn't use paypal) on 6/15/11 that the order was shipped.

Have you received an email? I don't recall receiving an email in the past when something has shipped. There website says expect 14 days to the U.S.

[kannon]

I haven't. This is my third order from them.

I ordered from them on 6/11/11 and received an email from paypal (even though I didn't use paypal) on 6/15/11 that the order was shipped.

Have you received an email? I don't recall receiving an email in the past when something has shipped. There website says expect 14 days to the U.S.

No response from them. I emailed them 2 times already. I'm going to report them to my bank, paypal and warn others to take extreme caution when purchasing from them. I've purchased 100's of items on the internet and have only had 2 bad experiences. This one was the worse. I can understand if the shipment was lost or something. However, they are not trying to resolve the issue. They don't even respond to my emails.

[DapperButch]

No response from them. I emailed them 2 times already. I'm going to report them to my bank, paypal and warn others to take extreme caution when purchasing from them. I've purchased 100's of items on the internet and have only had 2 bad experiences. This one was the worse. I can understand if the shipment was lost or something. However, they are not trying to resolve the issue. They don't even respond to my emails.

I am really sorry this is happening to you. I heard you say that they did not respond to your emails...I was trying to ask if they sent you a shipping email like I received (and the package just never came)?

I truly have heard nothing but good things about them and have always had quick responses from them.

Not that you want to take my advice again, but....

this is another site I heard was good: http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en

However, I have had no personal experience with them. The materials and such may be similar to T-Kingdom, I am thinking.

[kannon]

I am really sorry this is happening to you. I heard you say that they did not respond to your emails...I was trying to ask if they sent you a shipping email like I received (and the package just never came)?

I truly have heard nothing but good things about them and have always had quick responses from them.

Not that you want to take my advice again, but....

this is another site I heard was good: http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en

However, I have had no personal experience with them. The materials and such may be similar to T-Kingdom, I am thinking.

No shipping email either.

Do you contact them via their website?

[DapperButch]

No shipping email either.

Do you contact them via their website?


Yes, but the last time was well over a year ago. It was just the standard "contact us" button.

[kannon]

Yes, but the last time was well over a year ago. It was just the standard "contact us" button.

Well I guess things have changed in the company....:)
They sell binders on ebay now. I may try my luck there. :)

[Corkey]

Well I guess things have changed in the company....:)
They sell binders on ebay now. I may try my luck there. :)

Have you tried Underworks?

[kannon]

Have you tried Underworks?

I checked out their binders but didn't see any with velcro.

[Linus]

I checked out their binders but didn't see any with velcro.

Why do you want Velcro? Perhaps the Vest version may be helpful or you could modify one and sew in Velcro yourself?

[Elijah]

I just wanted to share one of the most helpful products I have ever found. The Enell Sports Bra.

I know, it's not all macho - get over it, the performance is.

Because I am large chested, compressions shirts and vests were not satisfactory...I slid around in them and they were incredibly warm. I would also get cramps in My sides from the compression.

The downside is that they are expensive, but I have found them well worth the money.

Make sure you following the sizing instructions carefully.

I found the best price at this website:

http://www.sportsclothesandmore.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SCAM&Category_Code=Enell

[DapperButch]

Why do you want Velcro? Perhaps the Vest version may be helpful or you could modify one and sew in Velcro yourself?

I prefer the ones with velcro, myself. You can adjust how tight they are. Additionally, if the binder stretches out over time, this makes up for it.

I personally dislike underworks binders beyond measure. Of course I have only tried a couple, but the ones I had were so scratchy and uncomfortable. The t-kingdom ones are great. The bottom half of the binder is soft fabric.

[kannon]

Why do you want Velcro? Perhaps the Vest version may be helpful or you could modify one and sew in Velcro yourself?

I've only tried 2: velcro and pullover. For my own needs and personal tastes, the velcro works best. I haven't tried the vest but the design doesn't sound functional for my needs.

I'm definitely not a seamstress.

[Ebon]

I've been wondering about getting the velcro one. Where do you get it from? I usually only use underworks.

[atomiczombie]

Velcro like this?

http://www.morrisdesigns.com/gv.htm

The top one has velcro on the shoulders. These are really expensive though.

[DapperButch]

I've been wondering about getting the velcro one. Where do you get it from? I usually only use underworks.

Velcro like this?

http://www.morrisdesigns.com/gv.htm

The top one has velcro on the shoulders. These are really expensive though.

No, the velcro is along the side of the body, so that you pull it across to how tight you want it.

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page1700_english.shtml

ETA: Be aware though, this is the site that kannon is currently having problems, with (But again, that is so shocking to me as I have purchased three times over the past 6 years or so with no problems...and good consumer reviews online).

[Daktari]

Ta ever so for this thread and all your contributions guys. Since getting a little heavier I've developed these *things* on my chest :| which make me really conscious of my body, something I've never really experienced before. I shall be checking out all your compression vest/tshirt/et al links.

Apropos the Aslan packy strap. It's not much of a job to add a couple of leg straps to stop it riding up. It's also real easy to make your own custom packy strap ....take one o-ring (metal, plastic, silicone, which ever is your preference - although metal is a bit too heavy for this purpose), a waist/hip length piece of inch wide elastic and two leg strap lengths of half inch elastic and attach them to the o-ring in the obvious configuration. Voila! One home-made, custom sized packy strap.

[Linus]

No, the velcro is along the side of the body, so that you pull it across to how tight you want it.

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page1700_english.shtml

ETA: Be aware though, this is the site that kannon is currently having problems, with (But again, that is so shocking to me as I have purchased three times over the past 6 years or so with no problems...and good consumer reviews online).

The other thing to keep in mind with T-kingdom is that they tend to be made for smaller, more fit individuals.

[kannon]

I've been wondering about getting the velcro one. Where do you get it from? I usually only use underworks.

Hey Ebon. I ordered one from ebay. My chest is about a small C and the velcro works best for me. It's much easier to put on.

Buyer Beware: I had a bad experience with T-kingdom. I ordered $160 worth of product that I have yet to receive. It's been 30 days now. I've sent them 3 professional emails of inquiry and they haven't responded to any.

[atomiczombie]

Hey Ebon. I ordered one from ebay. My chest is about a small C and the velcro works best for me. It's much easier to put on.

Buyer Beware: I had a bad experience with T-kingdom. I ordered $160 worth of product that I have yet to receive. It's been 30 days now. I've sent them 3 professional emails of inquiry and they haven't responded to any.

If you used a credit card or a check card you can call your credit card company or bank and they should fight the charge for you.

[kannon]

If you used a credit card or a check card you can call your credit card company or bank and they should fight the charge for you.


Yeah, that's what I need to do today. :) I wanted to give them enough time to resolve the issue before I took any action to recoup the money.

[Linus]

Kannon, although they aren't in North America it may be worthwhile filing a complaint with the BBB. I did that with regards to Mango and it had an interesting effect and response.

[kannon]

Kannon, although they aren't in North America it may be worthwhile filing a complaint with the BBB. I did that with regards to Mango and it had an interesting effect and response.


Yeah, I should do that. I contacted paypal. I know t-kingdom is a member.

[DapperButch]

The other thing to keep in mind with T-kingdom is that they tend to be made for smaller, more fit individuals.

Well, the size range has improved over the years. They do have customization for your exact meausurements, but there is a charge for that, yes.

[DapperButch]

Hi, guys. Just wanted to say a couple of things. One, my binder did come from T-Kingdom the other day and I am pleased with it, as usual. I have found through trial and error, that with the T-Kingdom binders that I need to go down one size for a correct fit. I don't know if others have this same experience with them, but for what it is worth, that is my experience (and I am not one who tightens hys/her/his binder to where hy/he/she can't breathe, either...I am not looking to "pass", I just like a flatter look to my chest). It was model 801 and I found that the fabric in the back is thicker and more solid than the last 801 I purchased about a year ago.

Additionally, I did order from another Taiwan based company, Kuya (I am pretty sure it is Taiwan), through the site I posted the other day (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=78), just to check out their stuff. I ordered the High Performance Velcro Short binder, as it has the highest rating for flatness and ventilation. As a side note, I looked to see if Kuya had their own site (in case I could get the binder for a cheaper price), but couldn't find one.

The positive about the Love Boat site is that they have sizes up to 46-48 inch chests. Although T-Kingdom makes larger binders than they used to, you have to go custom if your chest is more than 40-42, according to their sizing chart.

I will let you guys know what I think of the Kuya binder.

I would like to hear if others have experience with other companies besides the couple we have already discussed, as it is nice to have reviews from people you know, prior to purchase. Binders are so f*ing expensive and in some cases, not refundable.

[Hard Headed]

Hi, guys.

Additionally, I did order from another Taiwan based company, Kuya (I am pretty sure it is Taiwan), through the site I posted the other day (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=78), just to check out their stuff. I ordered the High Performance Velcro Short binder, as it has the highest rating for flatness and ventilation. As a side note, I looked to see if Kuya had their own site (in case I could get the binder for a cheaper price), but couldn't find one.

The positive about the Love Boat site is that they have sizes up to 46-48 inch chests. Although T-Kingdom makes larger binders than they used to, you have to go custom if your chest is more than 40-42, according to their sizing chart.

I will let you guys know what I think of the Kuya binder.

I would like to hear if others have experience with other companies besides the couple we have already discussed, as it is nice to have reviews from people you know, prior to purchase. Binders are so f*ing expensive and in some cases, not refundable.

I am gonna order the shoe lifts just for the fun of it. I will give a review once I get them. I look forward to your review on the binders and thanks for the site.:bowdown:

[The Oopster]

http://myspare.com/product/pete

Haven't seen anyone post on these. I bought a pair the other day. not cheap but I don't pack all the time but thought it would be nice to have something to make it more convient. I also hope to some how use there concept some day and incorporate them into other underewear I like.

[DapperButch]

http://myspare.com/product/pete

Haven't seen anyone post on these. I bought a pair the other day. not cheap but I don't pack all the time but thought it would be nice to have something to make it more convient. I also hope to some how use there concept some day and incorporate them into other underewear I like.

Thanks for posting these up. Which kind did you order?

Please give us a follow up review when you get them!

Thanks!

[The Oopster]

Thanks for posting these up. Which kind did you order?

Please give us a follow up review when you get them!

Thanks!

I actually was able to get them in the local sex shoppe store. We have enough transmen in LA that they do now have a very small section for us. The nice thing is they have a pair of each size to try on so. Luckily the ones I was interested happen to be the size medium. The large they had to try on were I believe the commando ... they were a jock strap style. I didn't mind them but my preference is for the trunks. So that's what I got and they seem to be great.

I am an inbetween size I think the medium is 32 to 34 and the large 36 to 38 and of course I run 34 to 36 so it was nice to try on. Due to the material and since they were for packing purposes I opted for the smaller size.

I've only been able to use them once though since I got them. They mainly are for social times out. In the sense that when I work I don't pack, it's just easier not to. I have a peeing device I just roll i put in a piece of cloth with velcro on it. Attach to the band of my underwear and roll the band over it a couple times. With all the outdoor elements when peeing on my job it's just easier not to have to deal with a packy.

I'll give you an update later as I wear it more. I need to use them a few times to give an accurate analysis since i'm not use to packing these days.

[Sun]

I actually was able to get them in the local sex shoppe store. We have enough transmen in LA that they do now have a very small section for us. .


Nice product line. What shop in LA? I was at LAX yesterday with a ridiculous delay and would have loved to shop in town if I knew that I would have had the time.

The only thing that does not appeal to me would be the logo.

What is the spandex/lycra blend on the fabric? I dont pack all the time but when I do I want a secure fit.

[EnderD_503]

http://myspare.com/product/pete

Haven't seen anyone post on these. I bought a pair the other day. not cheap but I don't pack all the time but thought it would be nice to have something to make it more convient. I also hope to some how use there concept some day and incorporate them into other underewear I like.

I've seen the link before and it looks cool, but isn't that material the same/similar material that under armour uses for their workout shirts? If so, even if it keeps your body dry from sweat, it starts to stink pretty fast. Plus I can't see myself buying a week's worth, lol.

I'd be more inclined to save for a pair if it could be used instead of a harness for a hard pack. If they came out with something like that in trunk form instead of jock form, I'd be on it like crazy, lol. Hmmm...maybe I should contact them about that :D

[The Oopster]

I see the questions i'll answer at the end of the week when i have hopefully a couple days off. I really haven't worn them much because it is easier to not pack in the forest and since i'm mostly working or at home they have been stowed away in the drawer!

[Tawse]

I haven't looked back all 7 pages - has anyone talked about this yet:

http://www.peecockproducts.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=1

Anyone have any experience with them??

[EnderD_503]

I haven't looked back all 7 pages - has anyone talked about this yet:

http://www.peecockproducts.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=1

Anyone have any experience with them??

Yeah, the link's been dropped here a couple of times. Personally, I think it looks amazing, it's just a matter funds for me right now. Although I've heard people rave about it, I don't think I've heard from anyone who's actually ever ordered one... So anyone here who has it should speak up, imo :p

[Rufusboi]

I actually was able to get them in the local sex shoppe store. We have enough transmen in LA that they do now have a very small section for us. The nice thing is they have a pair of each size to try on so. Luckily the ones I was interested happen to be the size medium. The large they had to try on were I believe the commando ... they were a jock strap style. I didn't mind them but my preference is for the trunks. So that's what I got and they seem to be great.

I am an inbetween size I think the medium is 32 to 34 and the large 36 to 38 and of course I run 34 to 36 so it was nice to try on. Due to the material and since they were for packing purposes I opted for the smaller size.

I've only been able to use them once though since I got them. They mainly are for social times out. In the sense that when I work I don't pack, it's just easier not to. I have a peeing device I just roll i put in a piece of cloth with velcro on it. Attach to the band of my underwear and roll the band over it a couple times. With all the outdoor elements when peeing on my job it's just easier not to have to deal with a packy.

I'll give you an update later as I wear it more. I need to use them a few times to give an accurate analysis since i'm not use to packing these days.


Oopster - I bought a pair of the trunks last week and I love them. I am definitely ordering more.

Rufus

[Maverick]

I bought a Peecock a few months ago and used it once. Unfortunately, my partner prefers a larger package than it provides and didn't get much out of the play part of it. I am a smallish person, height-wise, and didn't enjoy the packing experience since the length flaccid is the same length erect. I felt like it moved around too much and wasn't comfortable for me to wear all day. I guess if you wear tight fitting underwear it would be ok but I'm a boxer briefs person so there's just too much freedom for it to move in there. As far as peeing, I think it's a good design and, although I only tried it a few times, it seemed to work fairly well. Also I purchased their harness and I think it's totally worthless, but that's my opinion. Others might love it.

Personally, for me it's a no go and I'd be interested in selling it for half what I paid for it. Like I said, I used it to play once (with a condom), and packed with it part of one day. It's been sterilized and like new. Anyone interested let me know via private message and I can give you more details about it.

Thanks, Maverick

[Maverick]

Here is the link to the product I have:

http://www.peecockproducts.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=10

It can be used with or without a harness just like any packer except to use the pee function it needs to be up against your body obviously, so a pouch system doesn't work for it. The one I own is the 5.5" in beige. It comes with a velvet bag to store it in and the insertion rod to make it erect. I didn't practice much but I think the pee feature is very easy to master compared to others. Like I said, flaccid it's the same length as erect and the insertion rod does not change the girth very much at all...mainly keeps it erect. I had no problems using it for play other than the fact that my girl likes a longer, thicker cock and didn't find it adequate.

I paid $139 for it and would like to sell it for $70 + $10 shipping if anyone wants it.

Thanks, Mav

[DapperButch]

Hey, guys. I know that some transguys/genderqueers prefer sports bras to binders, or want to take a break from them, sometimes.

Many miss the Frog Bra. I came across this on my travels. It doesn't have as much spandex as the Frog Bra did, but it does have the full back and is advertised in the FTM section of Underworks.

http://www.f2mbinders.com/binding-tops/extreme-magicotton-sports-and-binding-bra

[DapperButch]

Hi, all. I heard about this swim gear for FTMs/butches who have not had top surgery. It is an alternative to the Underwork's one.

http://www.danae.info/en/female-male/swimwear

I would suspect that the Trans-vormer 305 would give the best compression as the zipper in the back would ensure less stretching. The only thing is, it is not common for a swim suit to have a zipper (especially those worn in the U.S.)! I noticed it looks like it has shorts, but the description says it is without shorts, so I guess they just put them on the model.



What I personally wore before top surgery was a women's competition swim top under a loose fitting sleeveless rash guard. The swim top didn't bind, of course, but the loose rash guard helped with disguising my chest. I will still wear the rash guards even though I have had surgery. On the bottom I wear board shorts.

http://www.rashguardshirtco.com/product/4106.html

Your mileage may vary on the items above, just thought it may be helpful.

[DapperButch]

Hey Guys,

Doing a clear-out and was wondering: Does anyone know where I could donate some used binders?

Thanks,

Joe

These guys:

http://inabind.transactiveonline.org/

Big Brothers is actually referring people there because they have too many themselves!

[froggy674u]

Where do I start. Let me say this for the bigger guys don't try the mid drift tank tops binders they only roll up on you. You have to buy the full torso binder. After buying it I threw the others away. You will fill way more secure,and wont have the worry of pulling the shorter ones down all the time. Whatever you do don't ever put them in the dyer. Lay flat to dry on top of your dyer.I hope this helps a few peeps.

[froggy674u]

I checked out their binders but didn't see any with velcro.

Underworks don't have velco,but they have good binders. buy the longer of the bindres if your a big guy.

[Joness]

Loving This thread! It is the Easter holiday season and I urgently need a new cock and considering something a bit harder than Mr Softie.... Plus ......he is getting a little tired! Needing re-newed :-)

[EnderD_503]

Personally I used to love the tri tops and its all I over wore before surgery. They did roll up a bit, but for me I just never liked how constricting the full-length binders were. Also found that the full-lengths also rolled up, but just felt more uncomfortable when they did because then the material roll would just rest right across my stomach. I should say though that the main reason I didn't like those factors in the full-length is because I often had quite a bit of problem with bad stomach pain and the full-length wasn't great for that. I imagine it'd be better without the pain, though.

[DapperButch]

Personally I used to love the tri tops and its all I over wore before surgery. They did roll up a bit, but for me I just never liked how constricting the full-length binders were. Also found that the full-lengths also rolled up, but just felt more uncomfortable when they did because then the material roll would just rest right across my stomach. I should say though that the main reason I didn't like those factors in the full-length is because I often had quite a bit of problem with bad stomach pain and the full-length wasn't great for that. I imagine it'd be better without the pain, though.

The tri top was my binder of choice too, prior to surgery.

[DapperButch]

Hey, guys, so I finally got this STP in the mail. It took 19 days in the post from Australia and about a month for it to get made. It is just a one man shop, made by hand.

I am very pleased, even with how expensive it ended up being (around $250.00). It is light, it can be worn without a jockstrap/harness/etc., and works!

Finally a STP that is comfortable and is not huge and heavy!

Now that I am out at work, I want to start wearing something in my pants. Until now, I only packed outside of work.

Very realistic looking. I am pretty sure it could pass at the urinal, although I don't know that I would ever try that.

http://transthetics.com/

He only opens up for orders after he gets done a batch of 15-30, which is every 6 weeks or so. Last time he was open, he got 30 orders in 5 hours. I was # 15 and I ordered within the hour of his notice he was open.

That was about 6 weeks ago. He says it takes about one day to make each one. Silicone is hard to work with. If you put yourself on his mailing list, he will let you know when he will be taking orders again.

What do other guys use to STP here?

[The Oopster]

does anyone know if travelmate is no longer in existence?

I have a variety of products and i'm having the best luck with theirs. The devices with the wider mouth (the go girl and the whiz) just aren't working for me.

Anyone use the she wee? It looks like it's sort of in-between?

worse case scenario I will just have to make my own.

[DapperButch]

does anyone know if travelmate is no longer in existence?

I have a variety of products and i'm having the best luck with theirs. The devices with the wider mouth (the go girl and the whiz) just aren't working for me.

Anyone use the she wee? It looks like it's sort of in-between?

worse case scenario I will just have to make my own.

The Shewee is what I used until I bought the EZP STP.

[The Oopster]

The Shewee is what I used until I bought the EZP STP.

is the base very wide. I'm having problems with the ones with a wider base.

It's strange because it use to be the other way around but my medicine spoon ones I have had better luck with lately

Is the plastic harder also? by problem with the soft ones are they get bent out of shape. I need something easy to carry and discrete where I don't have to worry about having to change my undies!

I've been using my travel mate even at home just to make sure i'm good with it and haven't had any problems

[DapperButch]

is the base very wide. I'm having problems with the ones with a wider base.

It's strange because it use to be the other way around but my medicine spoon ones I have had better luck with lately

Is the plastic harder also? by problem with the soft ones are they get bent out of shape. I need something easy to carry and discrete where I don't have to worry about having to change my undies!

I've been using my travel mate even at home just to make sure i'm good with it and haven't had any problems

Hey, man, I just measure it for you. The width of the mouth is around 1 inch. That is close to what the larger medicine spoon are, I think. The length of the STP is 6.5 inches, which I really like. The other ones I have tried are too long. It is nice to have a short one if you want to keep it in your cargo pockets. It is very hard plastic. I think it is worth the $12. Google it to see if you can find it cheaper with free shipping. I was able to get camo color off their site. I see they now have black, so that is at least better than only having pinks and blues before.

The page I am linking shows the product really well. You can click on another page to buy.

http://www.shewee.com/about-us/

[The Oopster]

Hey, man, I just measure it for you. The width of the mouth is around 1 inch. That is close to what the larger medicine spoon are, I think. The length of the STP is 6.5 inches, which I really like. The other ones I have tried are too long. It is nice to have a short one if you want to keep it in your cargo pockets. It is very hard plastic. I think it is worth the $12. Google it to see if you can find it cheaper with free shipping. I was able to get camo color off their site. I see they now have black, so that is at least better than only having pinks and blues before.

The page I am linking shows the product really well. You can click on another page to buy.

http://www.shewee.com/about-us/

Thanks that helps a lot! I'll order one or two and give them a try. Never hurts to have them tucked everywhere since I work outdoors. In fact I might even have or two of my others hidden somewhere undiscovered. most the width and the hard.

I had some real problems last year and I'm determined not to have to carry extra underwear this year! I almost was tempted to buy depends to line my underwear with!

[Jesse]

I've ordered from TranZwear twice now and am happy with both purchases. That said, it took approximately 3 weeks from order, to delivery. I buy the Champion Athletic Performance- Boxer Briefs with the Snuggler insert. I like that I can "drop my junk" in the pouch and go about my day without having it ride up, or having harness lines and discomfort. There is also no worry about your junk hitting a bathroom or locker room floor when urinating or changing clothes. I also like that the pouch is sewn in along the manufacturer's seams, so it is not noticeable on the outside.

www.tranzwear.net/

might interest some people. Never have ordered from here but just found this the other day. Posted it in another thread but figured it should go here also.

[JDeere]

Okay so my turn LOL

Any of y'all used the GC2b binders? Are they as comfortable as the reviews say?

I am looking for another binder that binds better on top since I am a pretty large chested fellow. So any feedback is welcome!

[DapperButch]

Follow up. Alex made a new model, with a bigger mouth and a .5 inch longer. It is absooolutely fuckkkking perfect.

Now since he moved to the states, it is only $225, including shipping.

It is worth it guys....no harness and to be able to pee quick and easy is great. You don't even feel it in your pants when you are wearing it. Light as a feather.

There is no wait to get them anymore, either. He hired someone to help him.

They are ridiculously realistic looking, too.


Hey, guys, so I finally got this STP in the mail. It took 19 days in the post from Australia and about a month for it to get made. It is just a one man shop, made by hand.

I am very pleased, even with how expensive it ended up being (around $250.00). It is light, it can be worn without a jockstrap/harness/etc., and works!

Finally a STP that is comfortable and is not huge and heavy!

Now that I am out at work, I want to start wearing something in my pants. Until now, I only packed outside of work.

Very realistic looking. I am pretty sure it could pass at the urinal, although I don't know that I would ever try that.

http://transthetics.com/

He only opens up for orders after he gets done a batch of 15-30, which is every 6 weeks or so. Last time he was open, he got 30 orders in 5 hours. I was # 15 and I ordered within the hour of his notice he was open.

That was about 6 weeks ago. He says it takes about one day to make each one. Silicone is hard to work with. If you put yourself on his mailing list, he will let you know when he will be taking orders again.

What do other guys use to STP here?

[DapperButch]

Okay so my turn LOL

Any of y'all used the GC2b binders? Are they as comfortable as the reviews say?

I am looking for another binder that binds better on top since I am a pretty large chested fellow. So any feedback is welcome!

I already had top surgery by the time these came out, but everybody loves them.

[JDeere]

I already had top surgery by the time these came out, but everybody loves them.

I have heard rave reviews over them as well!

[Logicaly]

I just recently got a GC2B binder and oh man is it ever amazing! Yes, everything they are saying about them is true. I have never had something fit so comfortably before and the compression is amazing for as loose as it feels. I seriously can not suggest this binder enough, and I wish I had discovered it years ago.

It is so comfortable that I eventually forget that I am wearing it. I was able to do yard work in the hot sun while wearing it, and because of how comfortable it was, for the first time in over 10 years, I was able to do wear just a tank top, instead of having to wear a more covering shirt. Also, if you keep an eye out, they will occasionally pop up on amazon where you can get them for free 2 day prime shipping.

[bright_arrow]

I just recently got a GC2B binder and oh man is it ever amazing! Yes, everything they are saying about them is true. I have never had something fit so comfortably before and the compression is amazing for as loose as it feels. I seriously can not suggest this binder enough, and I wish I had discovered it years ago.

It is so comfortable that I eventually forget that I am wearing it. I was able to do yard work in the hot sun while wearing it, and because of how comfortable it was, for the first time in over 10 years, I was able to do wear just a tank top, instead of having to wear a more covering shirt. Also, if you keep an eye out, they will occasionally pop up on amazon where you can get them for free 2 day prime shipping.

Best thing I've ever found! Might mention they're $35/$37 in bigger sizes, and have half tank size and full length (down to hips) and come in at least white, black and grey.

[cork1961]

...can anyone could use a couple of just about new Underworks binders?

White chest-binder tank and black Tri-Top chest binder. Pretty sure they were XL - see their site for sizes. Tank rolled up from my hips at the time, and black was less useful than white for me. So both were worn 1-3 times.
Just had top surgery, so they are free to a good home!

[DapperButch]

...can anyone could use a couple of just about new Underworks binders?

White chest-binder tank and black Tri-Top chest binder. Pretty sure they were XL - see their site for sizes. Tank rolled up from my hips at the time, and black was less useful than white for me. So both were worn 1-3 times.
Just had top surgery, so they are free to a good home!

Congrats on the top surgery! I had 5 binders I gave to my local LGBT clinic. All tri tops!

[DapperButch]

Hey, guys, so I finally got this STP in the mail. It took 19 days in the post from Australia and about a month for it to get made. It is just a one man shop, made by hand.

I am very pleased, even with how expensive it ended up being (around $250.00). It is light, it can be worn without a jockstrap/harness/etc., and works!

Finally a STP that is comfortable and is not huge and heavy!

Now that I am out at work, I want to start wearing something in my pants. Until now, I only packed outside of work.

Very realistic looking. I am pretty sure it could pass at the urinal, although I don't know that I would ever try that.

http://transthetics.com/

He only opens up for orders after he gets done a batch of 15-30, which is every 6 weeks or so. Last time he was open, he got 30 orders in 5 hours. I was # 15 and I ordered within the hour of his notice he was open.

That was about 6 weeks ago. He says it takes about one day to make each one. Silicone is hard to work with. If you put yourself on his mailing list, he will let you know when he will be taking orders again.

What do other guys use to STP here?

It was actually 30 hours in 5 minutes!

He now has The Rod. It's amazing.

[ProfPacker]

wow, just got my gc2b binder and it is amazing. It is way better than the Underworks binder that feels like you are wearing something made of horsehair. I just bought some more of the binders. Truly can say I feel like a new guy.

Also, got the Sparepants Commando packer harness to wear with my packer. Now I can wear boxers with my packer and feel great. One more thing, on a whim in the pleasure chest bought the Sam STP by NY Toy Collective. Didn't work for me, cup and mouth too small, so you can imagine the laundry and showers I took. Will wait too save for the EZP or Peecock.

Any guys use the Freetom? Any reviews of any of the STP's will help.

thanks guys and have a great holiday. Sitting here in my new packer and binder makes grading papers easier, lol.

[DapperButch]

wow, just got my gc2b binder and it is amazing. It is way better than the Underworks binder that feels like you are wearing something made of horsehair. I just bought some more of the binders. Truly can say I feel like a new guy.

Also, got the Sparepants Commando packer harness to wear with my packer. Now I can wear boxers with my packer and feel great. One more thing, on a whim in the pleasure chest bought the Sam STP by NY Toy Collective. Didn't work for me, cup and mouth too small, so you can imagine the laundry and showers I took. Will wait too save for the EZP or Peecock.

Any guys use the Freetom? Any reviews of any of the STP's will help.

thanks guys and have a great holiday. Sitting here in my new packer and binder makes grading papers easier, lol.

Everyone complains about the Freetom being massive, except for the young boys who like to show off a boner and wear nothing but basketball shorts so it is not super uncomfortable. Everyone cuts the funnel because it is too big.

Be aware that the Peecock is now consistently stated to be known to rip. I don't know what they changed in the material, but I read it over and over again. This happens within a few days with light use. The owners never return payment.

If you haven't already, join www.susans.org,
1)click on "forums".
2) Find the forum Transexual Talk. UNDER Transsexual Talk click onto the "child board", Female to Male Transsexual Talk (do not click directly onto Transexual Talk)
3) click on the "child board" FTM Gear, at the top of the page. You will find a lot of info. on packers and such. A lot of reviews.

You are on track choosing the EZP STP. That is hands down the STP of choice. Something to know though...if you are not able to have at least two inches of space between the top of your thighs when you spread your legs, this STP will not work for you. You legs will smoosh the cup which will then collapse the cup.

Ummmm, or I guess I could just link you to it! haha
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,324.0.html

[ProfPacker]

Dapper,

oops, the EZP did not work for me, the freedom (tried it out with a clearance STP) was a disaster. I did by the peacock (ugh) we will see how it goes. I have just about given up on STP's, maybe it is my anatomy. It kind of bums me out but I would rather be bummed out then have to do laundry all day, lol.

[ProfPacker]

oops, haven't tried the EZP. I am packing 24/7. I am very clear now that my dysphoria was bottom dysphoria. I still id as trans butch and the trans has to do with not feeling male or female all the time. I am binding for my other dysphoria with the pectoral muscle and as long as I pack I feel perfect at this point. Of course, I know this is a journey and have been talking to my therapist about it. I keep moving the envelope so who knows what next month will bring. Have been packing when swimming. I have been swimming in the Outplay suits and shorts. I am out of the women's locker and in the family changing room where I get to shower and change alone.

When I was in Florida visiting my mother and sister I didn't pack and I was jumpy and couldn't stop this feeling that I was missing something. With the Pete's Sparepants harness and brief shorts I feel very comfortable. It holds me in and I don't have to adjust myself. All is good.

[ProfPacker]

oops, haven't tried the EZP. I am packing 24/7. I am very clear now that my dysphoria was bottom dysphoria. I still id as trans butch and the trans has to do with not feeling male or female all the time. I am binding for my other dysphoria with the pectoral muscle and as long as I pack I feel perfect at this point. Of course, I know this is a journey and have been talking to my therapist about it. I keep moving the envelope so who knows what next month will bring. Have been packing when swimming. I have been swimming in the Outplay suits and shorts. I am out of the women's locker and in the family changing room where I get to shower and change alone.

When I was in Florida visiting my mother and sister I didn't pack and I was jumpy and couldn't stop this feeling that I was missing something. With the Pete's Sparepants harness and brief shorts I feel very comfortable. It holds me in and I don't have to adjust myself. All is good.

[DapperButch]

oops, haven't tried the EZP. I am packing 24/7. I am very clear now that my dysphoria was bottom dysphoria. I still id as trans butch and the trans has to do with not feeling male or female all the time. I am binding for my other dysphoria with the pectoral muscle and as long as I pack I feel perfect at this point. Of course, I know this is a journey and have been talking to my therapist about it. I keep moving the envelope so who knows what next month will bring. Have been packing when swimming. I have been swimming in the Outplay suits and shorts. I am out of the women's locker and in the family changing room where I get to shower and change alone.

When I was in Florida visiting my mother and sister I didn't pack and I was jumpy and couldn't stop this feeling that I was missing something. With the Pete's Sparepants harness and brief shorts I feel very comfortable. It holds me in and I don't have to adjust myself. All is good.

I'm glad to hear things are going well for you. In this post you said you haven't tried the EZP and in another you said you had? The thing to remember is not to order the EZP unless you have two inches of room between your thighs when you stand to pee. If there isn't that much room, the cup collapses. There is a nuance to all of these STPs and can take quite a bit of practice for most people. If you do get the EZP, let me know and I can give you some tips.

The peacock should work, they just say it rips easily...even with the company's own jock strap.

Have you tried jock straps in general for packing? You should be able to find something that suits your body and your packing needs. I would think wearing a harness all day would be uncomfortable. I have the Pete's, but I only use it for sex.

[JDeere]

I am thinking about buying a half binder when I get a chance. I love my tank binder a lot though but it could go for way more compression for us big guys.

Anyone else bought a half binder?

[DapperButch]

I am thinking about buying a half binder when I get a chance. I love my tank binder a lot though but it could go for way more compression for us big guys.

Anyone else bought a half binder?

I am thinking when you say tank binder you are referring to a full length binder. I only ever had a couple full length binders. I didn't like the pressure on my stomach. I hear large guys say they don't like full length binders because they roll up even more than they do for thin/average sized guys.

I used the Tri Top from Underworks for decades. I definitely think a shorter binder ("half binder"), is worth the money to try it, even if you don't bind daily.

[JDeere]

I am thinking when you say tank binder you are referring to a full length binder. I only ever had a couple full length binders. I didn't like the pressure on my stomach. I hear large guys say they don't like full length binders because they roll up even more than they do for thin/average sized guys.

I used the Tri Top from Underworks for decades. I definitely think a shorter binder ("half binder"), is worth the money to try it, even if you don't bind daily.

The half binder is not a full length binder. The one i have is a full length from gc2b. The half binder on the site just covers the chest and not the stomach. My full length binder hasnt rolled up at all since ive gotten it and worn it as well as washed it.

[ProfPacker]

Here is the review of the most effective STP I have found so far. It also comes in the 3.75 size which is more comfortable and akin to a flaccid cock. I find the few times I have not worn it (doctor's office etc) the dysphoria gets more intense. As soon as I put it on, I feel complete, at this point

I needed a new packer and wanted to try the Gen4 from Pee Cock but it was sold out. I ordered the Gen 3S in 3.75 for packing an peeing when I am going about my daily life and find that the improvement in the STP aspect of this packer is excellent. I find that when I use the harnesses made for them I rarely have any accidents. It takes practice and comfortability with the STP but at this point I can pee standing up effortlessly.

I have the larger Pee Cock Gen 3S (4.75) for play and STP at home. These models also allow you to insert Lub right into the pleasure rod so that you can ejaculate without a bulb or any apparatus other than the cock. It seems that they have improved the sturdiness of the device as well. The next generation is even more realistic with skin that moves and moving testicles.

All in all since my dysphoria has always been regarding my genitalia or absence of, I am feeling very pleased.

Thanks for allowing me to share this with you.

[cathexis]

Got a question that others have answered more than a few times. Anyone know to name of the clit pump available on Amazon. Tried to find it, but things such as these are difficult to find in their vast directory. Thanx!

[JDeere]

Got a question that others have answered more than a few times. Anyone know to name of the clit pump available on Amazon. Tried to find it, but things such as these are difficult to find in their vast directory. Thanx!

Try googling ftm sex toys or going to sex toy sites by searching clit pumps.

I think you will have better luck on those sites.