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			Have any recommendations or Definite Do Not Buys to pass along? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Binders, STPs, packers, PNPs, attorneys, doctors, pharmacies, clothes, whatnot...it's all expensive. So, please pass along your recommendations or save us all some cash by telling us what didn't work for you. Dylan  | 
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			I use Blowfish, The Transitional Male, and Asian Leather alot. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	A huge no-no for gender counseling is Johns Hopkins. They are very anti-glbt. Underworks for binders.  | 
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			Underworks has some good compression binders that I use and recommend, not terribly pricey either.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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 I think you may have a typo, Andrew. Is this the brand? www.aslanleather.com  | 
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			What is blowfish? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I use underworks too, but I would really love to find something better. I hate the roll up, and they're just so f'ing uncomfortable. I would really like to find something cooler by summer... Or A Big Bag Of Money To Pay For Surgery, Dylan  | 
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			Andrew, what do you use Transitional Male for? I know they have a binder program, and they started selling STPs, but I also heard their STPs weren't very good. Have you had different luck? You use aslan for harnesses or what?  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I've found the best harness for a pnp is one I made myself (I got the 'recipe' from Hellboi...he has some brilliant ideas). Also, there's an FTM Foundation I can't remember the complete name of it, but if you search that on youtube, you should be able to find it (although, I will look for it, and come back with the correct name), and they're making a packing harness that looks like it would work really well, and be pretty comfortable. Dylan  | 
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			Stay away from Mangos when it comes to STPs. It took them 6 months to finally ship and only after I filed a complaint with the BBB.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			DJ Knows Dick isn't too bad and very responsive. Underworks remains my binder of choice and I've started using their cotton/lycra based binders. These have been working well (a beard has also helped) and are very comfortable. The roll-up issue is reduced. A trick is to also wear a shirt (like an A-shirt) under the binder. I've found this to lessen the roll-up effect. Additionally, making sure the size is right and not going for the ultimate compressing one helps. Those, I find, tend hurt too much and sizing better helps reduce that as well as reduce the roll-up effect. 
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			http://www.ftmprosthetics.com/designer.htm 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I am working with this company. This is also one I looked at working with. http://www.likereal.de/shop/english/home I realize these arent very cost effective.  | 
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 Although, I have heard wonderful things about DJ Knows Dick. Also, if you go to the pharmacy area of Target, they'll give you medicine spoons for free. I found this out when I went to ask them where they keep the medicine spoons. They just offered them up. The medicine spoon is great, but dammit it takes a lot of practice. And you can't wait too long. For those who can't master the medicine spoon, I've heard about something bigger for female(bodied) campers (christ, my brain is fried today, I can't remember the names of anything). I've seen guys use that attached to an stp. I haven't tried this myself tho, so I can't offer any sort of recommendation. And then there's the uber cheap, coffee can lid idea which works well too. Dylan  | 
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			Well, there are a couple: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Go-Girl: http://www.go-girl.com/how-to-get-gogirl.asp Female Freedom: http://www.femalefreedom.ca/ 
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			Dylan - I've used the Underworks T-shirt/binder dealio for a couple years. Granted, I'm not trying to pass for male, so my being pleased with the result may not matter.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	They come long so they can be tucked in nicely. I've never had an issue with them rolling up and this kid has HIPS. I would, however, NOT recommend their FTM swimsuit. That rolls and is uncomfortable as hell. And the bottoms are really just god awful.  | 
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			this is the one I was referring to: http://www.underworks.com/images/974.jpg I may not have been clear in my previous post.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			this is the one I was referring to: http://www.underworks.com/images/974.jpg I may not have been clear in my previous post.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Ultimate Chest Binder Tank 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Double Front Compression Shirt Style 997 Color: White or Black Size - fits Chest: X-small 29-31 / Small 32-34 / Medium 35-39 / Large 40-44 / X-large 45-48 Price: $29.99 / 3 for 84.99 Size - fits Chest: 2X 48-52 / 3X 53-56 Price: $36.99 / 3 for 104.99 I have found its great for the money. Its tight even with great measurements, but does the job  | 
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			Thanks for all the links guys 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			www.t-kingdom.com for binders 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Model 801 is GREAT for the summer. Light, but strong. I also have Model 1700. Both excellent choices. For a couple of bucks they will customize their binders for you. I wouldn't hesitate purchasing any binder from these guys. The comparison chart is also very helpful. 
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