Presidential Slugfest 2016 - Debate Watch Party!

[Medusa]

Post your snippets, quotes, and frustrations here!

[Medusa]

Hillary is in RED and Trump is in BLUE! They are trying to come for each other's party!

[Medusa]

God. Why are they yammering on about Gary Johnson?

They need to stop trying to make Gary Johnson happen.

[Sparkle]

I can't watch. My sanity and will-to-live are at stake.


http://www.lalalala.us

(Satire ^ of course... but lalalala does sound terribly tempting on a night like tonight)

[Medusa]

I kinda want to stress-eat some Doritos and a pizza and about 400 crab rangoons!!!

I super hope she kills it!

[BullDog]

I have pizza, potato chips, strawberry twizzlers, sunflower seeds and Sam Adams Octoberfest on standby! Hey, I'm nervous. I need it.

[Soon]

I can't bear that she has to debate this fool.

Listen to that first answer and now his in response...he's all over the map.

It's unreal.

Still, my heart is racing. I need to calm the fuck down.

Go HRC. Go!

[A. Spectre]

Dissing China he is. Did someone tell him most of his merch is made there? Make America Great Again, eh Donald? He appears to be on downers tonight.

[Soon]

What the hell was that Secretary Clinton? Secretary Clinton? I want to make you happy; it's important to me.

WHAT WAS THAT.

[A. Spectre]

Lester needs to grow a pair. Trump already said he did not want to be fact checked tonight. THAT alone, should disqualify him.

[Medusa]

What the fuck with him sniffing!!!

Is he that nervous or is he going to claim he was sick and that's why he lost??

[BullDog]

What the fuck with him sniffing!!!

Is he that nervous or is he going to claim he was sick and that's why he lost??

Yeah I was just talking about that with someone. So weird and annoying!

[Medusa]

Yeah I was just talking about that with someone. So weird and annoying!


God. Is he on Coke?

[JDeere]

The pantsuit and the colored clothing are annoying. I don't like trump's tie either. Just debate this isn't a clothing contest.

[A. Spectre]

Trump is already coming undone. Took less than 20 minutes......

[Medusa]

He's already pulling the "excuse me" shit!

[BullDog]

He's trying to make her come unglued. Not going to work.

[Jesse]

It would be great if he would shut up and stop interrupting her!

[~ocean]

Hillary isn't strong enough to be president she's double talking ~ Trump is too low class....... we're screwed


BULLDOG and your not running WHY lol I'd vote for you !:goodluck:

[Soon]

It would be great if he would shut up and stop interrupting her!

Isn't the moderator supposed to stop that many interruptions!? :confused:

[Medusa]

I have never wished for a rabid rhinoceros to charge the stage and shit on someone's face so bad in my life.

Except that one time Ann Coulter was on tv and I accidentally watched her for 35 seconds.

[BullDog]

Lol, God forbid you have an informative website with actual plans on it. His is a joke!

[A. Spectre]

I was a teacher. I ask myself who do I remember the most? The students who were regular B and C students, or the class bullies? Sadly the bullies. I remember each and every one of them.....

The country (Trump supporters) with its ADD, its attack on science, its attack on higher learning gravitates to the one who screams the loudest.

[A. Spectre]

Now, he is praising China. Holy hell, we know 30 to 40 percent will vote for this.

[Soon]

I love that she's going after him not paying his workers.

[Medusa]

He's actually praising himself for taking advantage of people.

Someone PLEASE strangle this man.

[A. Spectre]

Getting tired of this: "She is a bad candidate" SHE, if elected will have SCOTUS nods that will determine many thing related to the LGBTQ community. SHE, believes in climate change and the EPA. HE, wants to basically defund the EPA, defund planned parenthood. Any person who is on this site and saying they don't know for whom they would vote or they talk about Hillarys pantsuits really needs to read more and be introspective about how Trump could fuck up their life.

[Bubala]

Trump: "The African-American com...um..ppl...the inner city...I've been all over the place you've decided to stay home!"

Clinton: "I think Donald just criticized me for preparing for this debate, and that's a good thing... You know what else I prepared for, for being the US president!"

Loved this one!

lololol

[BullDog]

"I prepared to be president and I think that's a good thing. " HRC

Yes!

[Bubala]

OMG this SOB is still going on and on about the birth certificate... Who lied about not being "Swedish"? :seeingstars:

[BullDog]

Trump: "The African-American com...um..ppl...the inner city...I've been all over the place you've decided to stay home!"

Clinton: "I think Donald just criticized me for preparing for this debate, and that's a good thing... You know what else I prepared for, for being the US president!"

Loved this one!

lololol

Quote of the whole presidential campaign!

[Bubala]

"When they go low, we go high." Michelle Obama quoted by HRC! <3

[Soon]

Why is he sniffing so much?

[Soon]

"And that is the way I feel." If a woman said that?? Not facts. It's just his "feelings" which we must pay attention to??

[Bubala]

Why is he sniffing so much?

Rotten skeletons from his closets getting loose? lol

[Medusa]

This FOOL actually just patted himself on the back for letting black people into his country club in Palm Beach!!!!!

[Bubala]

OMG here speaks the "cyber security expert" hahahahahahahhaha :seeingstars:

[Medusa]

He wants his 10 year old son to head up the cyber security task force! HAAHAH

[anotherbutch]

He truly sickens me... smug bastard.

[Bubala]

And then there's the proof Trump failed Geography??? lololol

Irak and Libya are not in the same neighborhood!

[A. Spectre]

Hello Donald! Taking the oil was a selling point from Bush, the shrubs people, namely Cheney and Rumsfeld. They told us the US would take the oil to pay for the invasion. Have we forgotten?

[Bubala]

He wants his 10 year old son to head up the cyber security task force! HAAHAH

Nothing like uneducated spoiled brat to had up serious matters with force and ignorance! :|

[Martina]

Actually, he is coming off a lot less arrogant than usual. He seems a lot less of an a-hole than he often seems. Probably what he got coaching on. He is doing a good job for him.

[Bubala]

Hello Donald! Taking the oil was a selling point from Bush, the shrubs people, namely Cheney and Rumsfeld. They told us the US would take the oil to pay for the invasion. Have we forgotten?

Apparently Donald thinks that terrorists earn their living by running gas stations and oil platforms! lololol

[Bubala]

The least thing we need is another boot on the ground war!!!

[Martina]

I take it back. How many times can he say Sean Hannity.

[anotherbutch]

He's an arrogant, racist bully..... period.

[Soon]

He's got a "better temperament" and "knows how to win" though.

:|

[Bubala]

Somebody please explain to Mr. Trump what the word "compatriot" means!

Since when is Lester Holt a foreigner!? :|

[GeorgiaMa'am]

I can't listen to this thing. It will only make me upset.

Yet, I can't sleep, just because I know it's going on. And here I sit reading comments on BFP, waiting for it to be over. I need to get to the part where I get a reasonable, short summary from NPR and BBC.

[Ascot]

He's toned down the blowhard schtick a bit, along with his hair color, but he just cannot stop interrupting. I love when it gets the better of him!

[not2shygrrl]

I was bothered by the long rants after the time was up on both sides. I bet DT will have more time on speaking than HRC due to this, and his interruptions will be far greater then HRC's. (football logic)

[A. Spectre]

Well look! He has his plastic people who love him on stage, His plastic sons who shoot and kill endangered animals.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2308096.1438190981!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/hunt30n-8-web.jpg

You vote for this. You stink

[not2shygrrl]

overall not a fan at all of Lester Holt's . He was to weak for me in stopping the time advantage in speaking. Can't they just shut the fucking mic off when needed??!! LOL

[anotherbutch]

I wish I hadn't watched the debate... left me in a pissy mood... :annoyed:

[homoe]

I didn't watch, what are the pundits saying? Who do THEY feel won?

[~ocean]

I didn't watch, what are the pundits saying? Who do THEY feel won?

Hillary won

[homoe]

Hillary won

Your opinion or those "know it all" asshole pundits? I have it taped on C.Span because I just cant take any more of these asshole pundits flapping their gums!

[MsTinkerbelly]

I enjoyed the debate tonight; Hillary was clear on all of her positions, and for once handled the email issue simply and clearly.

If I had been undecided I would be leaning toward Clintin, but Trump was strong when he spoke on economy issues....so I would want to hear more.

All in all I'm glad I watched.

[Lyte]

That was fun!

Ironic ... considering how much Trump dis likes women he sure was "bitchy" as hell!

[flapdoodle]

horrible, just horrible, and i wasn't even looking at the clothing. My body aches from it all. Best to sleep through that sort of thing.

[Bubala]

If clothing is your only takeaway you should maybe watch Fashion Police or some other Entertainmeny show instead and leave political debates to those with longer attention span.

Political analysts are entitled to their opponions, especially the Fact Checkers!

Have a jolly day all! :)

[Lyte]

I didn't watch either one until last night. I was most curious to see how they would interact with one another. They did not disappoint!

I wish I hadn't watched the debate... left me in a pissy mood... :annoyed:

[Lyte]

He has a serious impulse control issue.

He's toned down the blowhard schtick a bit, along with his hair color, but he just cannot stop interrupting. I love when it gets the better of him!

[JDeere]

FYI I was being sarcastic and trying to lighten up the thread. I by far am trying not to take stuff so seriously in this life, which is my personal choice, so if you take a majority of my posts seriously then idk what to say. I refuse to let a debate cause my blood pressure to go up or stress over things that can cause heart attacks. So please keep ridiculing me behind my back just because I don't agree with everyone on certain topics.

[clay]

<snipped convo>

So please keep ridiculing me behind my back just because I don't agree with everyone on certain topics.

I haven't seen anyone ridiculing you behind your back.

In a very public post in response to your comment regarding their clothing choices, I do believe, and take away from her post.........that.....
The whole point she was making about your comment, was that it isn't about what their clothing looked like.....but that the focus should have been on the Presidential debate...on very important topics affecting all of us. These aren't topics to be taken lightly or in jest.

I mean this with all manner of sincerity, JD.

[BullDog]

FYI I was being sarcastic and trying to lighten up the thread. I by far am trying not to take stuff so seriously in this life, which is my personal choice, so if you take a majority of my posts seriously then idk what to say. I refuse to let a debate cause my blood pressure to go up or stress over things that can cause heart attacks. So please keep ridiculing me behind my back just because I don't agree with everyone on certain topics.

No one is making fun of you behind your back but you are making passive aggressive posts in other threads.

Unless you don't like the color blue, I fail to see why you wouldn't like Trump's tie. People love to ridicule Clinton for her pantsuits. The only one who made it into a "clothing contest" was you.

[Bubala]

Let's not argue... if something as simple as political debate can get one's blood boiling I'm afraid what else will have them snap...A spots game? A box of cereal? An insurance commercial? lolol You get my point... This is a simple discussion thread, for g-d sake let's not make war out of it!

All apologies if anyone found themselves personally offended by my posts, nothing posted here by myself (and I am sure by most participants in the discussion) was aimed to convey any personal injury or malicious defamation.

Questions of policy are serious and tremendously important matters, however, discussions on them must be approached in a cool, calm and collated manner. Also a dash of humor here and there never hurt anyone! Listen, think, learn, analyze, laugh... There's on life to live, many votes to cast! Cheers!

Peace and love you all!
Have a jolly day! :) <3

[Martina]

This one should be interesting.

[MsTinkerbelly]

No shaking hands!

I wouldn't touch that filthy pig either.

[BullDog]

It's just locker room talk. SMH

[Soon]

Here it is, folks.

He's just standing there thinking about what he's going to retort (and sniff) back!

[Bubala]

oh oh the "Trumpkin" is sniffling again! lol

[Bubala]

Get your popcorn out the circus has started! lol

[DapperButch]

Why is he allowed to ramble on about Bill Clinton? I wish that Martha Raddatz would have just let that door close and not ask Trump another question about it. Let's move on.

Now the shit is going down hill.

It would be nice if there was actually policy discussion. I want him shown for his stupidity and lack of plan.

[Bubala]

Should we get a cyber security expert to explain to the Trumpkin just how ridiculous this"blenching" BS is?

Side note: Trumpkin looks sedated.

[Soon]

OMFG. He is such a fucking NUTCASE.

And he is scolding HER? Saying she should ashamed of HERSELF?

I am dying.

Cut his fucking MIC when his time is up!

[DapperButch]

SOOOOO glad she got to list all of what we got out of the Affordable Care Act!

Yes! Yes! Yes!

She said it plain and clear. She hit all the important points.

No pre-existing conditions
No maximum on care
Same cost for women as men
Children can be covered by parents up until age 26.

Love that this got heard on TV. YAY!

[BullDog]

What a bunch of mumbo jumbo was that from Trump on healthcare. Oy!

[Bubala]

My ears are bleeding from BS galore! :seeingstars:

[DapperButch]

OMFG. He is such a fucking NUTCASE.

And he is scolding HER? Saying she should ashamed of HERSELF?

I am dying.

Cut his fucking MIC when his time is up!

hahahahahahahahaha

[BullDog]

He just said absolutely nothing.

[Bubala]

So, now he implied that all the Muslims are terrorist and/or terrorist buddies!???

[Bubala]

You go Martha!!!

[MsTinkerbelly]

She is so articulate, and he is such a blithering idiot!

Sniff, sniff

[DapperButch]

He keeps moving around and she keeps trying to block him. He is such a dick.

[Bubala]

Martha: "there's been a lot of fact checking on that!" lolol
Trumpkin can lie faster than we can Fact Check? lol

[BullDog]

Martha: "there's been a lot of fact checking on that!" lolol
Trumpkin can lie faster than we can Fact Check? lol

Clinton campaign will make a commercial, lol.

[BullDog]

I know nothing about Russia.

That's right Donald.

[Soon]

Post office? Russia? Loans?

He knows nothing about Russia, no wait, he does?

Wtf is happening?

[Bubala]

He keeps moving around and she keeps trying to block him. He is such a dick.

a teeny tiny intellect, proportional to his....ahem... hands... lol

[Buckaroo]

snnnniiiifffff

[Bubala]

Clinton campaign will make a commercial, lol.

Hahahahahahaha :jester:

[Bubala]

Behold, here comes the alternative reality lololol

[DapperButch]

Clinton campaign will make a commercial, lol.

Yep.

I know nothing about Russia.

That's right Donald.

Damn, I missed that!

[Soon]

Yeah, she's done nothing.

Lay it out, Hillary!

And, thanks Bernie, for that awesome catchphrase for Trump's small mind to remember!

[Bubala]

I love how his trashing gave her the perfect vehicle to brag about her efficiency as a public servant!

[Soon]

Does anyone else find his pacing, stance, expression, positioning unsettling? even threatening at times?

He makes me nervous. In so many ways.

[DapperButch]

Why don't they stop him and make him answer the question?????

I want him to always go first!

[BullDog]

Russia is new with nuclear weapons????? Cold War? OMG what an idiot.

[Bubala]

Does anyone else find his pacing, stance, expression, positioning unsettling? even threatening at times?

He makes me nervous. In so many ways.

Yes he comes off as a flaming sociopath / mafia boss... pick your favorite...

HRC:" Let's do some fact checking tonight!" hell yes!!!

[DapperButch]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! GO MARTHA!!!

[Bubala]

Trump: "Asad is killing ISIS and Russia is killing ISIS?" Really??? Where?

[Soon]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! GO MARTHA!!!

He barely knows wtf this question or these places are about.

"I believe we have to worry about ISIS".

He can't answer about Aleppo.

He's such a dangerous fool.

[Bubala]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! GO MARTHA!!!

OMG! I think I am getting a bit sexually attracted to Martha as the night progresses lolololol Just joking of course! lolololol

[Soon]

OMG (((MARTHA!!!)))

Tell me what your strategy is!!

[DapperButch]

Russia is new with nuclear weapons????? Cold War? OMG what an idiot.

He means "new and improved", and we have the old stuff....no destruction will result.

[Bubala]

I love when HRC starts speaking very specifically about the Middle Eastern region in question Trump backs off because he has nothing to say... He has no idea who any of these ethnic groups are! lol

[*Anya*]

Really, how can such a moron wind up in this position?

I guess it really is true that anyone can grow up and run for president in this country.

I think Hillary is wiping the floor with him.

She is substantive and he is full of hot air.

He just sniffed again.

Fuck me.

[Bubala]

Really, how can such a moron wind up in this position?

I guess it really is true that anyone can grow up and run for president in this country.

I think Hillary is wiping the floor with him.

She is substantive and he is full of hot air.

He just sniffed again.

Fuck me.

Systematic decay of public education... dumbing down of the nation yields favorable conditions for charlatans like Trump to surface and claim their stake in the public arena.... Sad... Alarming... Scary...

HRC is winning this round. Just watch, Trump campaign will claim the victory again. Delusional and uncritical to the bone!

[BullDog]

It's just infuriating that he is even on the same stage as her.

[DapperButch]

Martha is the star of the show! Kicking ass!

[Bubala]

Oh please, all we need is another Scalia and 2nd amendment augmented so we can all just kill each other on the streets in a Walking-Dead-like blood bath... yes put that on the list as a priority! *eyeroll*

[MsTinkerbelly]

My God I would love to smack him!

Energy is under siege by the Obama administration?

Fuck me he's crazy

[Soon]

The internet is going nuts with how his pacing/stalking behaviour. The camera is trying to narrow in on Hillary but he keeps moving in the picture!

[Bubala]

Fuck me he's crazy

I bet that a well paid shrink somewhere out there has a big fat file to prove it! lol

sniff sniff...

[*Anya*]

My God I would love to smack him!

Energy is under siege by the Obama administration?

Fuck me he's crazy

He just says any bullshit that flits through that little brain of his.

Facts mean zero to him.

How can his supporters take him seriously?

I just do not understand.

[Bubala]

The internet is going nuts with how his pacing/stalking behaviour. The camera is trying to narrow in on Hillary but he keeps moving in the picture!

Change of strategy, last time he was yelling "Wrong!" and now he just keeps disrupting the camera crew!

[Bubala]

Wow!!!! What a question! PR gold!

[Soon]

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/10/bayoumi-moustafa-wins-the-internet/

[Bubala]

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/10/bayoumi-moustafa-wins-the-internet/

This is great! Thank you for sharing!!! :)

[Soon]

How can this BBC commentator say that the debate was a "draw" when Trump doesn't answer questions, lies, has no firm understanding of policy, and is INCOHERENT?!

I mean, wtf is the criteria to evaluate his debate performance??? That he just doesn't start yelling, crying, or stamping his feet?

[Bubala]

That's it, I declare Martha Raddatz the winner of this debate!

[Soon]

My doctor gave me 20 Ativans (for four months) for my trip abroad in case I get some anxiety.

I think I may have to take a half of one.

:|

[DapperButch]

My doctor gave me 20 Ativans (for four months) for my trip abroad in case I get some anxiety.

I think I may have to take a half of one.

:|

Aren't you going home soon? Take a whole!

Or a glass of wine!...speaking of which...

[DapperButch]

Mike Pence kissing ass in his tweet...

[Bubala]

My doctor gave me 20 Ativans (for four months) for my trip abroad in case I get some anxiety.

I think I may have to take a half of one.

:|

Please don't mix wine and meds.... Breathe... I'm sorry this political BS gave you anxiety. Feel better soon! Sending tons of calm positive energy your way (((hugs)))

[Bubala]

Mike Pence kissing ass in his tweet...

I read this somewhere and it pretty sums up Trump + Pence dynamic:

"Trump may be the face of your rapist,
but Pence is the judge who let him get away with it!"

*sad* and *scared* :seeingstars:

[Bubala]

Pence just tweeted this:

"Congrats to my running mate @realDonaldTrump on a big debate win! Proud to stand with you as we #MAGA."

:|

[*Anya*]

Mike Pence kissing ass in his tweet...

Kind of interesting since Trump threw him under the bus about Assad.

Trump: “He (speaking of Pence) and I haven’t spoken and I disagree".

[Soon]

Please don't mix wine and meds.... Breathe... I'm sorry this political BS gave you anxiety. Feel better soon! Sending tons of calm positive energy your way (((hugs)))

Aren't you going home soon? Take a whole!

Or a glass of wine!...speaking of which...

Aww, thanks to you both.

I don't drink, so wine is not even a consideration.

I decided on 1/2 a sleeping pill (she gave me 20 of those too lol) and a melatonin!

Hopefully, I'll be sleepy soon enough (it's now 4 AM here!)

P.S. Dapper, I'm finishing my personal month of travels but I'm heading to Weimar, Germany on Thursday to teach until Winter Break. I came a month early for some European exploration. :)

<3

[not2shygrrl]

I do feel in the first 30 min or so drump was really directly insulting HRC. At one point he referred to her as the devil. I think the moderators should have stopped that from the get go. It is not something as an observer I feel should have happened and it only encouraged him to insult her more. I think at one point HRC looked at the moderators as if to say...hello??? Are you hearing what I am hearing.

[*Anya*]

After watching this debate, I need a shower.

Trump makes me feel unclean.

[Soon]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14589569_10153940900842405_6793591678283978390_o.j pg

[Lyte]

That was a train wreck!! Winner isn't as clear to me as was the first one. I'm thinking Hillary by a smaller margin than the first time.

[Bubala]

Merriam-Webster further explains that people are looking up “lepo” as in, “what’s a lepo?” Hilariously sad and scary!

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/wired-live-blog-fact-checking-second-presidential-debate/?mbid=social_twitter

[not2shygrrl]

Post office? Russia? Loans?

He knows nothing about Russia, no wait, he does?

Wtf is happening?

there is a building in Baltimore, called the post office. It was long ago a post office and a huge one. There have been repeated attempts to buy it and turn into high priced condos. It now houses a historical tour in the top tiers, and shops below. Over controversial issues ( I don't know exactly ) drump has acquired the building and I think nothing has been done to it as of yet due to how he acquired it I think.

[BullDog]

I think it was a slight win for Clinton but I'm sure his supporters will think he won.

Some of the talking heads are saying him doing okay is actually good because if he had bombed maybe he would have dropped out, so this benefits Clinton to just have him stay in the race. Maybe that's just spin, lol.

It was an ugly debate to watch but I think Clinton did good enough.

[not2shygrrl]

I think it was a slight win for Clinton but I'm sure his supporters will think he won.

Some of the talking heads are saying him doing okay is actually good because if he had bombed maybe he would have dropped out, so this benefits Clinton to just have him stay in the race. Maybe that's just spin, lol.

It was an ugly debate to watch but I think Clinton did good enough.



So once again he and his standard of knowledge is held to a different level than HRC who is expected to show as articulate, educated and well experienced. But if drump does not fuck up its even steven. WTF??

[not2shygrrl]

Merriam-Webster further explains that people are looking up “lepo” as in, “what’s a lepo?” Hilariously sad and scary!

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/wired-live-blog-fact-checking-second-presidential-debate/?mbid=social_twitter

I wonder if it is the drump supporters who think its a shame that when 9/11 happened that Obama was not in the white house but on vacation somewhere, or maybe the supports of drump who think that HRC has a double that stands in for her due to her parkinsons, or maybe the guy who says Bill and Hillary have aids due to sleeping with Magic Johnson is googling a lepo!!

[MysticOceansFL]

Once again it shows who will win and who will not, and trump still losing supporters. Specially after the tape locker men bs talk he claims.

Hillary still kept her cool and is staying on top.
Tonight's debate was a lot better.

[C0LLETTE]

Who tweeted that Trump should go F himself...I missed the name that Lewendowski referred to just now on CNN.

[Glenn]

http./heavy.com/news/2016/10/hillar...olicy-twitter/
Jessie Lehrich. Foreign Policy Spokesman for Hilary told Trump "To Go F**ck Himself." about the comment he made concerning Captain Khan. That "he never would've died in Iraq if he was the president." blah blah blah. sniff snort wheeze.

[MsTinkerbelly]

The debate is on CNN, just in case you missed it earlier.:blink:

[Bubala]

Trump stalking is trending: http://usm.ag/2dYneSx

[MsTinkerbelly]

Just in case you missed it, Melania wore a pussy bow blouse to the debate. :jester:

[~ocean]

Trump needs a stop watch ~ keystone cop came to mind watching the pacing.:|

[A. Spectre]

Trump has lowered the bar so much, if he does not physically assault Hillary live on the teevee, he had a great debate! I mean, WTF!

The media has to pretend Trump is still a contender, the ads people, the purchasing of millions of dollars of ads.

Liar Liar Pence on Fire just deflected a question on MSNBC whether he was pledged to remain on the ticket.

What is going to happen when more of his disgusting tapes are revealed and released? Let's face it, 25 to 35 percent of Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables, the rest are just not paying attention.

[Jesse]

I missed watching this live; I am attempting to watch it now. Donald's "mike" is sniffing again in this debate, making it difficult to watch.

[MsTinkerbelly]

If you watch the debate again, look closely....Trump is reading Hillary's notes on her podium during his "wandering" on stage!

[C0LLETTE]

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

[MsTinkerbelly]

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

Hillary Clintin walks a fine line here. Hillary is a woman who fights for women, children and families...I think it would be the end of her campaign if it appears that she is using his children against him.

Sad as it is, Hillary is held to COMPLETELY different standards due to her gender.

But this is just my opinion.

[Glenn]

2nd Debate= Whatever..at the end of the day, she will get the silent minority vote and win.

[C0LLETTE]

Hillary Clintin walks a fine line here. Hillary is a woman who fights for women, children and families...I think it would be the end of her campaign if it appears that she is using his children against him.

Sad as it is, Hillary is held to COMPLETELY different standards due to her gender.

But this is just my opinion.

She wouldn't be using his children against him. She would be exposing his ugly core. She isn't attacking his children she is exposing that his attitudes towards women extend even to sexualising his children.
She doesn't have to say it but her surrogates can....and I doubt anyone hearing it would conclude "poor Donald" look how she is pointing to how he talks about his daughter.

You really think people would turn away from her for pointing out what an abusive perverse parent he is?
And there are lots of indirect ways to make those references. That's why they have "surrogates".

[kittygrrl]

Just in case you missed it, Melania wore a pussy bow blouse to the debate. :jester:

You just have to wonder what she may be thinking. His remarks on the bus were made just a little while after he married her. How tragic. She and Hillary have a lot in common. She did not look the least bit happy at the debate.

[C0LLETTE]

I guess I just get tired of opponents taking slams from Trump and not slamming back. His primary opponents know how effective that was. He won.

I see no reason why HRC needs to back away from Trump's assessment of her as a "fighter".

She needs to slam him and slam him good . I think a lot of women ( and men) would like to see him on his ass and WHY WHY should she be afraid of offending his voters cause EVERYONE else already thinks he is a pig. It is time to Toss the Shit Back Into His Face rather than being bullied into backing off from offending HIS voters. I seriously doubt any undecided voters would side with him if her surrogates exposed his ugly comments about his daughter....

Think about it: yeah he said those horrid things about his daughter but she brought them up...I'm going to vote for him cause what she did is terrible. Hey and yeah, his daughter does have great "tits and ass". Go Donald.

[kittygrrl]

Apparently it was Trump's intention to seat the four women accusing Bill Clinton of sexual assault in the VIP box. This was blocked by the co-chairman of the debate committee Frank Fahrenkopf Jr., who told Trump if he tried to seat those women in that box he would have security remove them. Thank goddess someone who has no problem telling Trump no. A fait accompli-

[MsTinkerbelly]

She wouldn't be using his children against him. She would be exposing his ugly core. She isn't attacking his children she is exposing that his attitudes towards women extend even to sexualising his children.
She doesn't have to say it but her surrogates can....and I doubt anyone hearing it would conclude "poor Donald" look how she is pointing to how he talks about his daughter.

You really think people would turn away from her for pointing out what an abusive perverse parent he is?
And there are lots of indirect ways to make those references. That's why they have "surrogates".

You need to read what I said without implying anything else.

I said SHE cannot bring up the issues of him sexualizing his daughter, or ANYTHING negative about his children. That doesn't mean a surrogate can't do it, it just means it cannot come from her mouth.

[Soon]

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

Yes, to all this.

You make a very good point, Collette; no matter what fucked up things Donald Trump has said or done in the past or present, his core base will NEVER abandon him (it's nauseating thinking about how many millions of Americans are in this group). HRC needs to slam back harder--her base, and maybe some on the fence or that younger generation--might come around to her vote. And get those surrogates to fight in a fiercer fashion. Ana Navarro is the only one I can think off the top of my head who has NO QUALMS about slamming his fuckery down!

[BullDog]

I'm so disgusted I don't even want there to be a third debate at this point, and it's not because I think Clinton will blow her lead or anything like that. That disgusting scumbag does not deserve to be on the same stage as Clinton, and she shouldn't have to put up with his stalker, abusive behavior on stage - all of his lies, threatening to put her jail and worse. Ugh.

[C0LLETTE]

You need to read what I said without implying anything else.

I said SHE cannot bring up the issues of him sexualizing his daughter, or ANYTHING negative about his children. That doesn't mean a surrogate can't do it, it just means it cannot come from her mouth.

As I hope you know, I like you very much MsTinkerbelly and on the vast majority of issues I agree with you however I do not agree that I "need" to do anything.

You did not refer to her "bringing up" the issue. You said it would be "the end of her campaign" if she appeared to "use it". Having the surrogates refer to it IS using it and, in my opinion, it would be a very good thing.

Personally, I think she'd lose nothing by directly confronting him but if surrogates are more acceptable...have at it. One direct hit right to the middle of his smug lying face wouldn't hurt her a bit.

[MsTinkerbelly]

As I hope you know, I like you very much MsTinkerbelly and on the vast majority of issues I agree with you however I do not agree that I "need" to do anything.

You did not refer to her "bringing up" the issue. You said it would be "the end of her campaign" if she appeared to "use it". Having the surrogates refer to it IS using it and, in my opinion, it would be a very good thing.

Personally, I think she'd lose nothing by directly confronting him but if surrogates are more acceptable...have at it. One direct hit right to the middle of his smug lying face wouldn't hurt her a bit.

Well, in this, we will have to agree to disagree. ;)

[C0LLETTE]

Yes, to all this.

You make a very good point, Collette; no matter what fucked up things Donald Trump has said or done in the past or present, his core base will NEVER abandon him (it's nauseating thinking about how many millions of Americans are in this group). HRC needs to slam back harder--her base, and maybe some on the fence or that younger generation--might come around to her vote. And get those surrogates to fight in a fiercer fashion. Ana Navarro is the only one I can think off the top of my head who has NO QUALMS about slamming his fuckery down!

And Ana Novarro is a Republican.

[Soon]

And Ana Novarro is a Republican.

I had no idea! She's been going after Trump so hard, I presumed...Thanks for the info!

[BullDog]

Hillary Clinton is of course very privileged and powerful and experiences the world in ways that very few other women ever do, but last night so many women saw her as "every woman" for all the women who have had to listen to being mansplained with a smile, who have had to fight for a job with a man who was clearly much less qualified, who have had to listen to a boss who is a 1,000 times dumber, who have had to cope with being physically bullied, intimidated, threatened and stalked.

See brief article and tweets for how woman after woman saw Hillary Clinton having to put up with similar treatment that they do all the time:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-was-every-woman-during-the-debate_us_57fb922be4b0e655eab5dee8?

[A. Spectre]

Trump vows retaliation as Republicans are abandoning him.

What an incredibly thin-skinned man-baby he is. Well, I can agree with him about the "self righteous hypocrites."

Mitch Mcconnell has no backbone, nor cajones. He refused to denounce Trumps actions and on a side note, he still looks like a turtle. Just not as cute.

Hillary is up double digits according to numerous polls.

Leaked audio is now coming out from "The Apprentice" via Huffpost.

[Lyte]

I know this is common knowledge but... it still makes me a lil smirky smirk to say it... the Republican party is friggin' imploding!! :byebye:

[DapperButch]

I think the reason Hillary didn't slam him more for the tape was because he shook her up a bit having those four women there. I think she thought that he would talk about Bill's cheating more, and go harder at her if she did. And I think he would. She has to have an emotional breaking point, and maybe she knew she had hit her limit (for the day). The woman has to hear about his infidelity constantly.

Someone said to me today...if Melania cheated on Trump, would his opponent even bring it up? No, they wouldn't. It wouldn't hold any power. It does with Hillary though because we know Bill and he was POTUS. BUT, it also matters because it says there is something "wrong" with Hillary if her husband cheated on her. If it was Melania, people would just say she is a slut and feel bad for Donald (well, maybe not HIM, but they would another man). It circles back to misogyny again.

[Bubala]

I think the reason Hillary didn't slam him more for the tape was because he shook her up a bit having those four women there. I think she thought that he would talk about Bill's cheating more, and go harder at her if she did.

Bill is not running for president, Hillary is. I wish Trump would get the memo.
Also, what is that Trump morality police!? Ha! :seeingstars:

[Bubala]

"Carrie Fisher says Trump’s sniffles are ‘ABSOLUTELY’ a sign of cocaine use"

....Hahahahahahahaha! So the mic is on crack ... again!? lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/expert-carrie-fisher-says-trumps-sniffles-are-absolutely-a-sign-of-cocaine-use/

[C0LLETTE]

It seems that many of us agree that there is pervasive misogyny and a double standard in this contest but I am not so sure we all have to succumb to it. I suspect that, if Hillary whacked Donald good and hard, a loud cheer would go out across the land.

[Lyte]

Part of the reason Bill's dumbass behavior is being brought up is because of Hillary's reaction to the alligations. She was viscous! There's a lot of hypocrisy in the Clintons.

[C0LLETTE]

"Carrie Fisher says Trump’s sniffles are ‘ABSOLUTELY’ a sign of cocaine use"

....Hahahahahahahaha! So the mic is on crack ... again!? lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/expert-carrie-fisher-says-trumps-sniffles-are-absolutely-a-sign-of-cocaine-use/

The now deceased, bullying, crude, racist mayor of Toronto denied cocaine use for years as he thrashed around proclaiming his "law and order" platform...till the video showed up. and then the sound of the toilet flushing was sweet music to all his victims.

[C0LLETTE]

Part of the reason Bill's dumbass behavior is being brought up is because of Hillary's reaction to the alligations. She was viscous! There's a lot of hypocrisy in the Clintons.

You're right. Her response wasn't nice. but they are lucky they didn't cheat with any of my partners cause at least one of them wouldn't have lived long enough to be given a box seat at a presidential debate. Having a 12 year "affair" with someone's husband is hardly a case of sexual abuse. Unless you want to accept that it was his wife that was being abused.

[DapperButch]

Part of the reason Bill's dumbass behavior is being brought up is because of Hillary's reaction to the alligations. She was viscous! There's a lot of hypocrisy in the Clintons.

You're right. Her response wasn't nice. but they are lucky they didn't cheat with any of my partners cause at least one of them wouldn't have lived long enough to be given a box seat at a presidential debate. Having a 12 year "affair" with someone's husband is hardly a case of sexual abuse. Unless you want to accept that it was his wife that was being abused.

Fact checking stuff:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/

[BullDog]

Fact checking stuff:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/

Thank you!

[Lyte]

Summery of that article reads... "Overall, we rate the claim Mostly False."

Mostly false still leaves a hell of a lotta room for truth. Also, that article does not represent the sum total of all of his or her comments.

Facts are that he came out hard (no pun intended :p) denying everything, so she had to come out equally hard defending.


Fact checking stuff:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/

[DapperButch]

Summery of that article reads... "Overall, we rate the claim Mostly False."

Mostly false still leaves a hell of a lotta room for truth. Also, that article does not represent the sum total of all of his or her comments.

Facts are that he came out hard (no pun intended :p) denying everything, so she had to come out equally hard defending.

Yes.

I took notice of this article after I read your post because I didn't recall her being as harsh as you described. I was aware that i was in grad school over that time period so I knew that I had missed a lot of the details.

[BullDog]

The article cited by Dapper was looking specifically at the allegations made by Trump at the debate. That was its purpose and it explained what it meant by mostly false, which doesn't lead to a reasonable interpretation of "viscous."

Viscous is an extremely strong word to use to accuse someone of something.

[Lyte]

"Viscous" is also subjective and open to interpretation. Therefore, some may think a certain comment is vicious while others may not.

Everyone gets to decide what means what to them.

[BullDog]

I don't use words like vicious lightly and especially when I don't add anything to back them up with. From my perspective you are just repeating right wing attacks that have been made against Hillary Clinton for over 20 years.

[C0LLETTE]

"Viscous" is also subjective and open to interpretation. Therefore, some may think a certain comment is vicious while others may not.

Everyone gets to decide what means what to them.

I get what you mean. Sewer rats are vicious but pet rats are not. But on the other hand, if you don't fear rats then a sewer rat might not be vicious; and if you fear rats, a pet rat might be vicious. Unless, of course, you don't give a rat's ass what others think or whether they understand what you're talking about.

[Martina]

I dont care about who Bill Clinton had sex with. I dont care about emails or bengazi. I care about the fact that she praised welfare reform as recently as 2008, welfare reform that doubled the number of extremely poor children in this country. She mentioned marion wright edelman again in this debate, not saying that edelman stopped supporting her politically after welfare reform. Between the crime bill and welfare reform, no one has done more to harm the extremely poor than bill and hillary clinton.

[*Anya*]

I was throughly confused.

Vicious Means something very different than viscous.

Must have been autocorrect.

[C0LLETTE]

I was throughly confused.

Vicious Means something very different than viscous.

Must have been autocorrect.

throughly viscous? lol

[Bubala]

One thing we keep forgetting is that our democratic system, which contrary to totalitarianism, does not permit one single entity to do as they please without the majority support and buy-in from bodies such as the senate and the house and many more structures downstream. Sure, presidents have some executive powers such as the power of veto, however make no mistake a president is not a czar!

Washington politics are more complex than it might seem to a layman eye.
The game of policy often means one starts with theoretical hypothesis pitch that must be sold to key stakeholders time after time. "Selling" often resembles war trenches at times. In order to bring ones ideas or arguments to life, one must run an interesting political triathlon with many hurdles to overcome. Not everything can be conquered by money, lobbying or brute force alone. Modern times brought the new media social popularity beauty contest into play as well.

[C0LLETTE]

I'm guilty! I'm in love with Ana Navarro and I don't care what her politics are.

[Lyte]

lol Viscous viciousness?? :p

I was throughly confused.

Vicious Means something very different than viscous.

Must have been autocorrect.

[Lyte]

Bingo! ;)

Unless, of course, you don't give a rat's ass what others think or whether they understand what you're talking about.

[Lyte]

What would be the value in my providing an example of a Hillary remark which I found to be vicious? Some will agree with my assessment and some won't. So what would I have proven? Nothing.


I don't use words like vicious lightly and especially when I don't add anything to back them up with. From my perspective you are just repeating right wing attacks that have been made against Hillary Clinton for over 20 years.

[BullDog]

What would be the value in my providing an example of a Hillary remark which I found to be vicious? Some will agree with my assessment and some won't. So what would I have proven? Nothing.

So then what is the value of even saying what you did in the first place? You just repeated what Donald Trump said at the debate about Hillary Clinton and you are surprised that there are people who object to it when you don't offer to back it up?

Okay fine just throw it out there with no explanation then. I don't understand the purpose of that at all.

You're right that the word "vicious" can be interpreted in different ways, but it is not used in a neutral manner, especially in the specific context of Hillary Clinton.

There's a lot of shit said about Hillary Clinton that isn't actually true, and it gets repeated over and over again, and to me that matters a great deal. So I don't take it lightly when people use loaded words like "vicious" - especially after Donald Trump just used it.

[C0LLETTE]

Bulldog:
"There's a lot of shit said about Hillary Clinton that isn't actually true, and it gets repeated over and over again, and to me that matters a great deal. So I don't take it lightly when people use loaded words like "vicious" - especially after Donald Trump just used it."

Is it true that Hillary Clinton is The Devil?

[BullDog]

Bulldog:
"There's a lot of shit said about Hillary Clinton that isn't actually true, and it gets repeated over and over again, and to me that matters a great deal. So I don't take it lightly when people use loaded words like "vicious" - especially after Donald Trump just used it."

Is it true that Hillary Clinton is The Devil?

I guess it depends on what your personal definition of The Devil is? ;)

[kittygrrl]

I know this is common knowledge but... it still makes me a lil smirky smirk to say it... the Republican party is friggin' imploding!! :byebye:

Could you explain why you think this is a good thing?

[Gemme]

Summery of that article reads... "Overall, we rate the claim Mostly False."

Mostly false still leaves a hell of a lotta room for truth. Also, that article does not represent the sum total of all of his or her comments.

Facts are that he came out hard (no pun intended :p) denying everything, so she had to come out equally hard defending.

Actually, "mostly" anything leaves minimal room for any other option, because it's "most" not "least" or "equally" or "possibly".

No one on this Earth is going to be wholly one thing or another. Even Trump can be 'good' on certain days and to/for certain people. For example, I'd like to think that he treats his children well but given the Frontline story I saw about his and Hillary's history up through the campaign, that's unlikely as his own father was extremely harsh and he is very much like his father.

People love to rip Hillary about Bill's indiscretions and there was certainly a political spin there but there was also a woman who was betrayed, not just publicly but worldwide, by her husband. I can't imagine how horrible that would feel if it were me. And people blamed her for that. We rail against victim blaming but it's okay when it comes to her? Sure, she's responsible for her part in whatever happened afterwards, but it seems to get lost by the wayside time and time again that she was lied to as well as the rest of us.

If this were a court of law, would her husband's indiscretions be allowed in as evidence and go to state of mind or would they be ruled out? <----pondering :thinking:

This isn't Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, people. Politics = lying and secrecy. Is it right? No. Is it unusual? No. Is lying or secrecy better, worse or neutral to a 'bomb them all and let God figure it out' mentality?

There isn't a perfect option and there are issues with ALL of the candidates, even the ones on the outside of the limelight. You choose the one that best supports your personal beliefs and/or best supports your ability to live a full and open life and hope for the best. That's all any of us can do.

[Lyte]

I don't express my opinion with the hope that you or anyine else finds value in it. I express my.opinion because it pleases me to do so.

You assume too much. Where did I say I was surprised?

I'm not Trump so perhaps you might consider redirecting your hostility for him ... or for whomever else... where it belongs.


So then what is the value of even saying what you did in the first place? You just repeated what Donald Trump said at the debate about Hillary Clinton and you are surprised that there are people who object to it when you don't offer to back it up?

Okay fine just throw it out there with no explanation then. I don't understand the purpose of that at all.

You're right that the word "vicious" can be interpreted in different ways, but it is not used in a neutral manner, especially in the specific context of Hillary Clinton.

There's a lot of shit said about Hillary Clinton that isn't actually true, and it gets repeated over and over again, and to me that matters a great deal. So I don't take it lightly when people use loaded words like "vicious" - especially after Donald Trump just used it.

[A. Spectre]

Pat Robertson calls lewd video ‘macho talk’


“Let’s face it. A guy does something 11 years ago, there was a conversation in Hollywood where he’s trying to look like he’s macho,” Robertson said on his show, as first reported by Raw Story. “And 11 years after that, they surface it from The Washington Post to whatever, bring it out within 30 days or so of the election and this is supposed to be the death blow and everybody writes him off, ‘Okay, he’s dead, now you better get to get out of the way and let Mike Pence run the campaign.’”

“The Donald says no,” he continued. “He’s like the phoenix. They think he’s dead, he’s come back. And he came back strong. So, he won that debate.”

http://bizstandardnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Pat-Robertson-eyes-shut.jpg


*Faux christian speaking about a faux human. THIS is a far cry from him discussing Bill Clinton back in the day.

Why what Trump was caught on tape saying is such a big deal. MOST men do not brag about sexually assaulting women, why? because MOST men know right from wrong. THIS, shows us Trump does not know right from wrong. This man is broken, no redeeming him, no educating him.

[Lyte]

The party has veered so far to the right that a whack job like Trump could be chosen as their presidential nominee. Trump is symptom of just how broken the party has become. Even though I disagree with most of what they have ever stood for... that's still a very bad thing for the US.

At some point... hopefully soon ... because they are imploding... they will.look at where they are now and ask themselves "What the f*ck are we doing?!" "How the f*ck did we get here?!"

Could you explain why you think this is a good thing?

[BullDog]

I don't express my opinion with the hope that you or anyine else finds value in it. I express my.opinion because it pleases me to do so.

You assume too much. Where did I say I was surprised?

I'm not Trump so perhaps you might consider redirecting your hostility for him ... or for whomever else... where it belongs.

I talk to myself all the time I just don't do it in a discussion forum.

I expect when I post something in a political thread someone might have something to say back. Otherwise, why would I even bother. People don't always respond to my posts and that's okay too, but I just don't throw things out there to talk to myself. That seems very odd to me.

I haven't been hostile to you. I was very clear in my posts - which you can either ignore or respond to as you wish.

[Lyte]

"Most" could be anything from 51% to 99% of something. It is just more of ... whatever.. than it is less of whatever.

More importantly, it's just the opinion of article writer that most of what Hillary said wasn't vicious. His/Her opinion is neither right or wrong. It's simply an opinion.





Actually, "mostly" anything leaves minimal room for any other option, because it's "most" not "least" or "equally" or "possibly"

[Lyte]

Again, lots of assumptions on your part.


I talk to myself all the time I just don't do it in a discussion forum.

I expect when I post something in a political thread someone might have something to say back. Otherwise, why would I even bother. People don't always respond to my posts and that's okay too, but I just don't throw things out there to talk to myself. That seems very odd to me.

I haven't been hostile to you. I was very clear in my posts - which you can either ignore or respond to as you wish.

[BullDog]

Again, lots of assumptions on your part.

What is that supposed to mean? If I thought someone didn't understand my post I would try to clarify and/or state specifically what I thought they were assuming. I have no clue what you are talking about. I'm going back to sleep. Have a good one.

[Lyte]

Well heck! I wanna go back to sleep too! lol Pleasant dreams. :)

I'm going back to sleep. Have a good one.

[C0LLETTE]

"Most" could be anything from 51% to 99% of something. It is just more of ... whatever.. than it is less of whatever.

More importantly, it's just the opinion of article writer that most of what Hillary said wasn't vicious. His/Her opinion is neither right or wrong. It's simply an opinion.

Most is more than less. Though sometimes less is more. But most is not necessarily more than more However sometimes more is most which begs the question: is less more or less than lesser when lesser is still more than most.Fewer rats is still more than no rats but no rats is still less than more rats. It's a vicious circle.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Round 3 is nearly ready to start.

Bring it!!

[Lyte]

Already got a bowl of popcorn and hard rootbeer!! Who's coming over?! :p


Round 3 is nearly ready to start.

Bring it!!

[BullDog]

Wallace seems like he wants a substantive, serious debate on the issues. Good sign. We'll see if it lasts!

[DapperButch]

First note:

It looks as though Hillary recently got her hair foiled and she got it a little lighter than usual this time.

I think it looks good and makes her look younger.

End note.

[Chad]

We are watching including the kitty.

:scarytv:

[homoe]

We are watching including the kitty.

:scarytv:

I heard that kitty actually is a Trump supporter:fastdraq:

[Chad]

I heard that kitty actually is a Trump supporter:fastdraq:

Haha!! I will let you know how she votes but I bet it is based on kitty treats.

:cat:

[DapperButch]

He definitely did not make it 20 minutes into the debate of with complete sanity last time.

I am a wee bit worried.

[MsTinkerbelly]

I'm pleased so far with the debate moderator who has managed to keep Trump from running wild.

I would be surprised if anyone changes their minds, but I think the undecided voters will actually get to hear a debate on the differences in policies or lack thereof.

Oops, maybe not.... Bigly just kills me!!!

[DapperButch]

Oh, good, he is starting to sniff again...

AND

"you're the puppet", "you're the puppet"

[BullDog]

Bam - the puppet set him off! He is about to unravel!

[DapperButch]

Yay! He said....WRONG.

Dumb ass.

[Gemme]

First note:

It looks as though Hillary recently got her hair foiled and she got it a little lighter than usual this time.

I think it looks good and makes her look younger.

End note.

Soooo....just wondering....why is the first thing you feel appropriate to mention something regarding a woman's physical appearance?

It feels a bit...you know.

:blink:

In other news...."Puppet!" "You're a puppet!!!"

Jeezus H. Christ on a cracker.

I'm getting a migraine.

[Lyte]

I was just about to tell a friend... Hey, he's not snorting!! And then he snorts! Iol :p

[Lyte]

The steel and aluminum they dump on the US is our own. They buy it from us, recycle it without environmental considerations and then sell it back to us. Oy vay! :(

[BullDog]

Wow denying all sexual assault accusations and blaming violence at his rallies on the Clinton campaign. Wow. Just wow.

[Gemme]

Did you hear the tittering of the audience at..."Nobody has more respect for women than I do"? Even they know he's full of shit.

[MsTinkerbelly]

The steel and aluminum they dump on the US is our own. They buy it from us, recycle it without environmental considerations and then sell it back to us. Oy vay! :(

I used to buy aluminum, steel, titanium etc etc.... Large 10-12 foot bars, 100's at a time...and I have to mention that China, India and several more countries buy our scrap metals and melt them into bars that they can sell anywhere, including here.

I had to be very careful and view all supporting documents because I worked in the Aerospace industry, and their (china etc...) metals were forbidden due to the horrible quality. BUT, that is the metal Trump buys for the structures of his high-rises, putting people in jeopardy to save a few bucks.

Derail over

[MsTinkerbelly]

This debate reminds me of the first one...

I think I'm done.:wine:

[*Anya*]

Trump looks medicated to me. 😑

Not much affect considering the last two debates.

Xanax?

[Lyte]

Exactly right! I worked at a metals recycling plant where we crushed cars, cubed them up along with tons of all sorts of other metals and would ship them overseas. It's all cheaper then pulling/processing new metals out of the ground.

PCs too... with dangerous, toxic metals... overseas companies have people pull the precious/rare metals out BY HAND and then sell them back to us all cleaned up.



I used to buy aluminum, steel, titanium etc etc.... Large 10-12 foot bars, 100's at a time...and I have to mention that China, India and several more countries buy our scrap metals and melt them into bars that they can sell anywhere, including here.

I had to be very careful and view all supporting documents because I worked in the Aerospace industry, and their (china etc...) metals were forbidden due to the horrible quality. BUT, that is the metal Trump buys for the structures of his high-rises, putting people in jeopardy to save a few bucks.

Derail over

[Jesse]

I find it amazing how Trump passes blame to everyone other than himself...Hillary Clinton, President Obama, the media and the list goes on and on.

[easygoingfemme]

Did you hear the tittering of the audience at..."Nobody has more respect for women than I do"? Even they know he's full of shit.

I laughed so hard there I missed the audience participation. I haven't watched the other debates, just clips of them, but am watching this one. I consider it closure. Also looking forward to the remakes tomorrow.

[DapperButch]

First note:

It looks as though Hillary recently got her hair foiled and she got it a little lighter than usual this time.

I think it looks good and makes her look younger.

End note.

Soooo....just wondering....why is the first thing you feel appropriate to mention something regarding a woman's physical appearance?

It feels a bit...you know.

:blink:



I had this 1950's radio announcer thing going on in my head. Like a baseball game as they run onto the field..."here they come onto the field...Smith is looking sharp in their new uniforms...blah-blah-blah"

It was a setting of the stage, sort of thing. A follow up from Lyte getting out the popcorn and settling in.

That's the best I can do with explaining my train of thought... that was why I said "first note". Like first note on the players..the setting of the stage.

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I wish Trump started being insane....45 minutes left to see it...

[DapperButch]

Trump looks medicated to me. 😑

Not much affect considering the last two debates.

Xanax?

I was thinking this early on. Can't explain his calmness any other way. They had to drug his ass. I doubt Xanax though, too powerful. I am guessing Klonopin if he is on any benzo.

[Bubala]

I find it interesting how the moderator keeps "warning" HRC about "open discussion" while her time is still ticking and Trumpkin is the one interrupting her yet Trumpkin does not get no "warnings" of any sort.

[DapperButch]

I am so glad this wasn't the first debate. Soooo hope that people didn't even bother to watch this one because he looks so much saner.

He really does look medicated. I think he is getting more tired the longer he stands there. Like maybe it is kicking in more. Anya?

[BullDog]

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

[DapperButch]

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I'm talking about his temperament, which is everyone's concern.

[BullDog]

I agree she is very strong. I am talking about his presentation, not even anything he is saying. He is not acting like an insane man. Nothing to do with his words. He presents as calm. That is different. That is what people have pointed out as his issue/problem. He isn't doing that this time.

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

[Bubala]

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

He looks saner than usual but batik uses control when pressed.
HRC won't all 3, in my modest opinion. However, the moderator pressed Clinton way more than any other moderator before, despite everything she did not cave in on any of the presented challenges.

I think Trump's worst misstep the implication that he would not commit to accepting the outcom of the the election. That is straight up scary!

[BullDog]

I give props to Wallace. He brought us a serious debate and he kept them under control as much as he could. He asked good questions.

[EnderD_503]

I don't think Trump seems sane at all, and I think Clinton is very strong tonight.

Indeed. I'm not watching but have been seeing some comments and quotes from people online who are watching...his comments on "speaking of Haiti" railing on about Clinton's emails, rigged elections etc. doesn't make him sound much different than his usual asshole, off the wall self from what I'm reading.

[Shystonefem]

Tonight, Donald Trump insulted our FBI, our Dept of Justice, our State Dept and so many individuals. He had no answers to the questions, only insults.

Trump did not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. Trump lied about voter fraud. Lied about his support for the invasion of Iraq. Lied through this debate again.

He tried to maintain his cool, he lost it a few times. He did appear more calm yet without substance, how can anyone say that he is fit to be POTUS?

BTW: ISIS leaders are still in Iraq.

[MsTinkerbelly]

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

I think any gains he made by looking sane in the first part of the debate, were thrown out the window when he said he didn't know if he would accept the election results.

Crazy is as crazy does.

[DapperButch]

I guess we are seeing him differently then. I don't see him being calm at all. I think he is doing better than 1st debate and he isn't stalking her like at the 2nd debate, so maybe compared to those. But I think this is Clinton's strongest of the 3, even better than the 1st one - which was more Trump being bad than her being great.

Yes, that is all I am referring to...how he is here in comparison to the first two debates.

[Shystonefem]

He said that he would not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. That seems to be what the news outlets are talking about. Many people are shocked and insulted.

[Medusa]

Wallace has been one of the best moderators I've seen.

Hillary wiped the fucking floor with Trump's inconsistent, lying, racist, sexist, fake ass and I can't wait to say that I was alive with both our first President of Color and our First Female President.

Hillary is not perfect, by far, but she isn't insane or mean-spirited. I think she did an amazing job demonstrating her poise and negotiating ability and, dare I say it, her SUPREME COMPOSURE when that man deserved to have the living shit slapped out of him more than a few times.

[BullDog]

Yes, that is all I am referring to...how he is here in comparison to the first two debates.

Gotcha. In some ways it was his strongest debate. But wow, yeah the whole talk is how he won't necessarily accept the outcome, so I think that is getting overshadowed.

[anotherbutch]

I think Trump might have smoked a blunt before the debate.....

[A. Spectre]

Hillary just won "bigly." Paul Ryan needs to put country before party to denounce trumps position on whether or not trump would agree to the legitimacy of the outcome of the election.

[*Anya*]

Off topic but may I say Rachel Maddow looks very handsomely butch tonight.

Trump's words did not match his appearance. I thought he looked half-asleep.

Asshole that he is.

He won't accept the results of the election. What a loser.

Hillary did a fantastic job.

[EnderD_503]

He said that he would not agree to a peaceful transfer of power. That seems to be what the news outlets are talking about. Many people are shocked and insulted.

That's the thing. I don't follow American elections as closely as some, but I remember a while back reading he basically didn't care that he had members of the KKK backing him and even invited it. He seems to be moving in that direction again lately with the kind of company he keeps, and even just by saying he won't accept election results if he loses (even if, in the end, he doesn't do anything about his loss) in some ways it provides the catalyst for those American far-right militia types to start lashing out more than they have in years should he lose. Especially with the West on the whole taking a turn toward the far-right. He doesn't have the brains, but he has the fervour and ideology to further radicalise far-right groups that have been more controlled/less violent on a larger scale than a few decades ago.

[A. Spectre]

"Nobody respects women more than I do."


"What a nasty woman."



All said within a half hour. Holy cow!

[not2shygrrl]

I think Trump might have smoked a blunt before the debate.....

Hahaha that made me laugh~ It was drump just this week suggesting a drug test prior to the debate!!.....if this would have been the case...oh boy!!

[Jesse]

I was just thinking about that. He cuts his own throat.

"Nobody respects women more than I do."


"What a nasty woman."



All said within a half hour. Holy cow!