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Old 05-06-2010, 09:15 AM   #1
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I am so not an expert in psychological theory, but my understanding of Jung's "shadow aspect" is that people tend to take the things they dislike about themselves and try to reject those things. But they can't really eradicate those qualities within themselves - they can only repress them.

From wikipedia - because I'm an intellectual like that -

According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections are unrecognized "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power." These projections insulate and cripple individuals by forming an ever thicker fog of illusion between the ego and the real world.


I do wish Jung hadn't used images of dark and light to make his point, but I do think he has a point that the things you repress/despise in yourself get projected onto others. I think it goes along with that saying, "The things you despise most in others are the things you despise most in yourself."

It all began with Shakespeare, didn't it? ~ when he wrote something along the lines of: "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

I think it was Shakespeare....

EDITED: I had to go look...yes on the Shakespeare, from Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.



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It all began with Shakespeare, didn't it? ~ when he wrote something along the lines of: "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

I think it was Shakespeare....

EDITED: I had to go look...yes on the Shakespeare, from Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


Exactly - what surprises me more is that people who really are straight would, say, go to such lengths to oppress gays.

What makes a person shape their entire life around gay people, what the gays are doing, how bad the gays are, etc? I think it's gotta be a pretty short list of motivations.
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Exactly - what surprises me more is that people who really are straight would, say, go to such lengths to oppress gays.

What makes a person shape their entire life around gay people, what the gays are doing, how bad the gays are, etc? I think it's gotta be a pretty short list of motivations.
I rather imagine its a superb money maker. Many church leaders are looking to have a sinful "cause" for the vast majority to rally against. This keeps the folks in attendance at churches and listening on the airways with donations galore. NO ONE has to look at their own sins when the majority is rallied together with a greater sin to combat. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Matthew 7:3
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This is my interview from yesterday with Joe Jervis of JoeMyGod on his great coverage of the George "Rentboy" Rekers scandal.
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Okay...I'm sorry....but this just made me giggle

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George Rekers Is a Homosexual, Escort Says

​The male escort hired by anti-gay activist George Alan Rekers has told Miami New Times the Baptist minister is a homosexual who paid him to provide body rubs once a day in the nude, during their ten-day vacation in Europe.

Rekers allegedly named his favorite maneuver the "long stroke" -- a complicated caress "across his penis, thigh... and his anus over the butt cheeks," as the escort puts it. "Rekers liked to be rubbed down there," he says.

In his first interview since New Times broke the story Tuesday, the 20-year-old escort, who prefers to go by the name Lucien, contradicts Rekers's contentions that he hired the escort to help carry his luggage and that he was trying to save the soul of a lost sinner.

Although Rekers does have physical ailments that make it difficult for him to haul suitcases, Lucien wasn't hired to carry luggage on their European vacation, the escort says.

"It's a situation where he's going against homosexuality when he is a homosexual," Lucien says.
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I'm a fan of Leonard Pitts' column and he had a great one yesterday on Georgie. Here a link.

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/co...leonard_pitts/

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Before He Hired an Escort, Rekers Tried to Spank the Gay Away

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In 1974, Rekers, a leading thinker in the so-called ex-gay movement, was presented with a 4-year-old "effeminate boy" named Kraig, whose parents had enrolled him in the program. Rekers put Kraig in a "play-observation room" with his mother, who was equipped with a listening device. When the boy played with girly toys, the doctors instructed her to avert her eyes from the child.

According to a 2001 account in Brain, Child Magazine, "On one such occasion, his distress was such that he began to scream, but his mother just looked away. His anxiety increased, and he did whatever he could to get her to respond to him... Kraig became so hysterical, and his mother so uncomfortable, that one of the clinicians had to enter and take Kraig, screaming, from the room." Rekers's research team continued the experiment in the family's home. Kraig received red chips for feminine behavior and blue chips for masculine behavior. The blue chips could be cashed in for candy or television time. The red chips earned him a "swat" or spanking from his father. Researchers periodically entered the family's home to ensure proper implementation of the reward-punishment system.

After two years, the boy supposedly manned up. Over the decades, Rekers, who ran countless similar experiments, held Kraig up as "the poster boy for behavioral treatment of boyhood effeminacy."

At age 18, shamed by his childhood diagnosis and treatment, Rekers's poster boy attempted suicide, according to Gender Shock, a book by journalist Phyllis Burke. Rekers, whose early experiments were the first to ostensibly demonstrate a "gay cure," resigned from the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) last week, after it was revealed the gay escort had given him nude sexual massages. NARTH, however, stands by his science.
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