Family Research Council leader caught w/ gay prostitute

[Nat]

I am so not an expert in psychological theory, but my understanding of Jung's "shadow aspect" is that people tend to take the things they dislike about themselves and try to reject those things. But they can't really eradicate those qualities within themselves - they can only repress them.

From wikipedia - because I'm an intellectual like that -

According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections are unrecognized "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power." These projections insulate and cripple individuals by forming an ever thicker fog of illusion between the ego and the real world.


I do wish Jung hadn't used images of dark and light to make his point, but I do think he has a point that the things you repress/despise in yourself get projected onto others. I think it goes along with that saying, "The things you despise most in others are the things you despise most in yourself."

[Diva]

Originally Posted by Nat

I am so not an expert in psychological theory, but my understanding of Jung's "shadow aspect" is that people tend to take the things they dislike about themselves and try to reject those things. But they can't really eradicate those qualities within themselves - they can only repress them.

From wikipedia - because I'm an intellectual like that -

According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections are unrecognized "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power." These projections insulate and cripple individuals by forming an ever thicker fog of illusion between the ego and the real world.


I do wish Jung hadn't used images of dark and light to make his point, but I do think he has a point that the things you repress/despise in yourself get projected onto others. I think it goes along with that saying, "The things you despise most in others are the things you despise most in yourself."

It all began with Shakespeare, didn't it? ~ when he wrote something along the lines of: "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

I think it was Shakespeare....

EDITED: I had to go look...yes on the Shakespeare, from Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Nat]

Originally Posted by Diva

It all began with Shakespeare, didn't it? ~ when he wrote something along the lines of: "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

I think it was Shakespeare....

EDITED: I had to go look...yes on the Shakespeare, from Hamlet: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Exactly - what surprises me more is that people who really are straight would, say, go to such lengths to oppress gays.

What makes a person shape their entire life around gay people, what the gays are doing, how bad the gays are, etc? I think it's gotta be a pretty short list of motivations.

[rockybcn]

Originally Posted by Nat

Exactly - what surprises me more is that people who really are straight would, say, go to such lengths to oppress gays.

What makes a person shape their entire life around gay people, what the gays are doing, how bad the gays are, etc? I think it's gotta be a pretty short list of motivations.

I rather imagine its a superb money maker. Many church leaders are looking to have a sinful "cause" for the vast majority to rally against. This keeps the folks in attendance at churches and listening on the airways with donations galore. NO ONE has to look at their own sins when the majority is rallied together with a greater sin to combat. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Matthew 7:3

[The_Lady_Snow]

'WBWJR -- What Boy Would Jesus Rent?'

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo...deo.php?ref=mp

[Soon]

The Gist: Michael Signorile

Interview: Joe Jervis
This is my interview from yesterday with Joe Jervis of JoeMyGod on his great coverage of the George "Rentboy" Rekers scandal.

[JustJo]

Okay...I'm sorry....but this just made me giggle

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/....1207277030..1

[Rufusboi]

I'm a fan of Leonard Pitts' column and he had a great one yesterday on Georgie. Here a link.

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/co...leonard_pitts/

Rufus

[Soon]

Before He Hired an Escort, Rekers Tried to Spank the Gay Away

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In 1974, Rekers, a leading thinker in the so-called ex-gay movement, was presented with a 4-year-old "effeminate boy" named Kraig, whose parents had enrolled him in the program. Rekers put Kraig in a "play-observation room" with his mother, who was equipped with a listening device. When the boy played with girly toys, the doctors instructed her to avert her eyes from the child.

According to a 2001 account in Brain, Child Magazine, "On one such occasion, his distress was such that he began to scream, but his mother just looked away. His anxiety increased, and he did whatever he could to get her to respond to him... Kraig became so hysterical, and his mother so uncomfortable, that one of the clinicians had to enter and take Kraig, screaming, from the room." Rekers's research team continued the experiment in the family's home. Kraig received red chips for feminine behavior and blue chips for masculine behavior. The blue chips could be cashed in for candy or television time. The red chips earned him a "swat" or spanking from his father. Researchers periodically entered the family's home to ensure proper implementation of the reward-punishment system.

After two years, the boy supposedly manned up. Over the decades, Rekers, who ran countless similar experiments, held Kraig up as "the poster boy for behavioral treatment of boyhood effeminacy."

At age 18, shamed by his childhood diagnosis and treatment, Rekers's poster boy attempted suicide, according to Gender Shock, a book by journalist Phyllis Burke. Rekers, whose early experiments were the first to ostensibly demonstrate a "gay cure," resigned from the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) last week, after it was revealed the gay escort had given him nude sexual massages. NARTH, however, stands by his science.

[UofMfan]

I thought this was funny and worth a look.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_565763.html

[Diva]

Originally Posted by UofMfan

I thought this was funny and worth a look.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_565763.html

Did I happen to mention that this Rekers guy looks frightening similar to my Christian fundamentalist ex~husband?



I know.