2020 Presidential Election

[dark_crystal]

i think Pete and Amy were both leaned on by the DNC. Their supporters will all go to Biden, this is part of the Stop Bernie project

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

i think Pete and Amy were both leaned on by the DNC. Their supporters will all go to Biden, this is part of the Stop Bernie project

Yes probably they were leaned on but I also think they are doing what they think is best for the country. Most Democrats think Sanders would lose to Trump in a landslide.

[Martina]

I think some will go to Bernie. Mayor Pete was on the progressive side of liberal and drew a lot of young folks, who seem to prefer Bernie. Now that Klobuchar is out, Bernie will take Minnesota, which will be helpful. There was a lot of early voting though.

[BullDog]

Reports that Buttigieg will be endorsing Biden today too. According to NYT President Obama called Buttigieg after he dropped out - didn't tell him to endorse Biden but said you have leverage now and should consider how to use it.

Sanders has a strong base but it is still a minority of the party and he has benefited from the moderate vote being split up. There is a lot of early voting for Super Tuesday so we shall see. And, of course, there is stupid Bloomberg.

[Martina]

I don't think most establishment liberals are worried about Bernie losing. They're worried about him winning. The rich really don't want to pay the taxes they would have paid under Nixon.

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Martina

I don't think most establishment liberals are worried about Bernie losing. They're worried about him winning. The rich really don't want to pay the taxes they would have paid under Nixon.

I disagree. Democrats are worried about Sanders losing to Trump and not taking the Senate back and potentially losing the House.

I also don't think painting all of the rest of us as establishment liberals worried about paying too much in taxes like Sanders and so many of his supporters do is not at all helpful to his cause. Shrug. Maybe you are just saying the rich Democrats, I don't know. I certainly don't think they control everything so I guess I don't exactly know what you mean.

I do agree that Klobuchar dropping out right before Minnesota votes could potentially help Sanders in Minnesota but maybe can help Biden in a lot of other places? Maybe. I'm really happy she is dropping out and endorsing Biden but I also do think it's a bit unfair to her home state voters.

[Kelt]

Another somewhat unrelated thought....at what point will campaign rallies stop being held? All the major presidential candidates are in their late 70s, this Covid-19 virus could inflict some damage on all of them at the same time. It would be utter chaos.

[Martina]

Yeah I meant rich Dems like Silicon Valley CEOs. Seems like every day there's some rich liberal saying he'd rather have Trump than Sanders. And I meant the politicians who serve their interests.

Originally Posted by BullDog

I disagree. Democrats are worried about Sanders losing to Trump and not taking the Senate back and potentially losing the House.

I also don't think painting all of the rest of us as establishment liberals worried about paying too much in taxes like Sanders and so many of his supporters do is not at all helpful to his cause. Shrug. Maybe you are just saying the rich Democrats, I don't know. I certainly don't think they control everything so I guess I don't exactly know what you mean.

I do agree that Klobuchar dropping out right before Minnesota votes could potentially help Sanders in Minnesota but maybe can help Biden in a lot of other places? Maybe. I'm really happy she is dropping out and endorsing Biden but I also do think it's a bit unfair to her home state voters.

[kittygrrl]

I'm fine with either Biden or Bloomberg..i don't hold Bloomberg billions against him..i could care less..i think Biden is a little weak and will need propping up..he will need a younger stronger vice..Klobucher would be a great choice since she is in tune with the Senate and is in the top percentage of effective legislators..she's savvy and smart and yes a little boring to listen to but it obviously does not effect her ability to pass legislation ...also would like to point out..
the Bernie people in this thread want to believe like Trump and his supporters and media that there are conspiracies and such trying to screw him..candidates want to win; can we just not use Trump propaganda play by fair rules and no matter who the winner is support him? Bernie helped to make new rules for brokered convention so no complaints. It's fair.

[Kätzchen]

For easy reference, here is tonight's live stream from the Democratic National Convention 2020 home page over at YouTube.

Obama is speaking, at the moment.

Not sure if Kamala Harris has taken the stage yet, but I think it won't be long before she does.

But, wow. Obama's message comes from a place of genuine concern and care and to help people truly understand what is at stake. Like many, I am so grateful for Obama's statesmanship, his keen sense of duty and his conscience. Long live the Obamas. Our country is so blessed by their continued presence and how they advocate for the very best for American's, near and far.

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by Kätzchen

For easy reference, here is tonight's live stream from the Democratic National Convention 2020 home page over at YouTube.

Obama is speaking, at the moment.

Not sure if Kamala Harris has taken the stage yet, but I think it won't be long before she does.

But, wow. Obama's message comes from a place of genuine concern and care and to help people truly understand what is at stake. Like many, I am so grateful for Obama's statesmanship, his keen sense of duty and his conscience. Long live the Obamas. Our country is so blessed by their continued presence and how they advocate for the very best for American's, near and far.

I couldn't say it better than u did Katzchen good post !!