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Old 12-21-2009, 11:07 AM   #1
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*Disclaimer there maybe use of era related terminology in the attached links if this offends you my apologies. However, if you pick up any history book about the American Civil War you will read the “politically incorrect” rhetoric of the day. *

*I do not typically post in controversial threads because my words I feel are better spoken on topics I may or may not agree with. But it has come to my attention through my friends here on this site that my words are needed in something that is not all “fun and fluff.” *

Oh wow, where do I start (this thread is a bummer and has unnecessary dramatics)... though I do have to say as a historian I am really appalled by the so called teachings of American students, being the product of the public school systems hell even I am not happy with all of my education but that is neither here nor there. I wish personally that people would first think about what they are saying and how they say it instead of just speaking out of pure hatred and anger towards another human being regardless of their beliefs. Just because someone does not agree with you doesn’t mean that pressing your opinion of the matter on them will get them to change their minds. It is hard to change 200+ years of personal and familial history with one post.

The battle flag of northern Virginia vs the confederate flag:

http://www.civilwarhome.com/battleflag.htm
http://www.civilwarhome.com/confederateflags.htm
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CLASS/AM...att/intro.html

since this is a web thread I will all assume if you want to learn you will read and learn if not that’s cool too I am just trying to clarify this is a learning experience for all of us.

It is easy to use any kind of symbol to define your belief system. The cross is something some Christians use to define their belief. The pentagram is a symbol of belief for some pagans. The American flag is something to define the beliefs of a nation. The rainbow pride flag is the belief that no matter with color, creed, nationality or sexual desire your belief in it gives you hope. The swastika was something the Nazis used to define their belief. A Starbucks cup is defined as the belief that coffee will make your day right. An African American fist in the air is defined as a Black Panther movement. Two fingers in the air making a “V,” defines the belief in peace.

Symbols became that way for a reason. Someone somewhere believed in them. So take your own beliefs and learn from others. It doesn’t matter what color or creed you come from just know that WE are a community here and need to embrace others opinions. We do not have to enjoy them or even like them but we should open our minds to them…

Besides I thought this was a thread about being a proud southerner… and where and how I am going to have my first real southern cooked food (sure stereo typical but the south to me means AMAZING FOOD, warm hospitality and a slowed down pace of living.) I still have not had homemade grits, collard greens with bacon, fried chicken with biscuts and gravy with a side of mac and cheese.

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*Disclaimer there maybe use of era related terminology in the attached links if this offends you my apologies. However, if you pick up any history book about the American Civil War you will read the “politically incorrect” rhetoric of the day. *

*I do not typically post in controversial threads because my words I feel are better spoken on topics I may or may not agree with. But it has come to my attention through my friends here on this site that my words are needed in something that is not all “fun and fluff.” *

Oh wow, where do I start (this thread is a bummer and has unnecessary dramatics)... though I do have to say as a historian I am really appalled by the so called teachings of American students, being the product of the public school systems hell even I am not happy with all of my education but that is neither here nor there. I wish personally that people would first think about what they are saying and how they say it instead of just speaking out of pure hatred and anger towards another human being regardless of their beliefs. Just because someone does not agree with you doesn’t mean that pressing your opinion of the matter on them will get them to change their minds. It is hard to change 200+ years of personal and familial history with one post.

The battle flag of northern Virginia vs the confederate flag:

http://www.civilwarhome.com/battleflag.htm
http://www.civilwarhome.com/confederateflags.htm
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CLASS/AM...att/intro.html

since this is a web thread I will all assume if you want to learn you will read and learn if not that’s cool too I am just trying to clarify this is a learning experience for all of us.

It is easy to use any kind of symbol to define your belief system. The cross is something some Christians use to define their belief. The pentagram is a symbol of belief for some pagans. The American flag is something to define the beliefs of a nation. The rainbow pride flag is the belief that no matter with color, creed, nationality or sexual desire your belief in it gives you hope. The swastika was something the Nazis used to define their belief. A Starbucks cup is defined as the belief that coffee will make your day right. An African American fist in the air is defined as a Black Panther movement. Two fingers in the air making a “V,” defines the belief in peace.

Symbols became that way for a reason. Someone somewhere believed in them. So take your own beliefs and learn from others. It doesn’t matter what color or creed you come from just know that WE are a community here and need to embrace others opinions. We do not have to enjoy them or even like them but we should open our minds to them…

Besides I thought this was a thread about being a proud southerner… and where and how I am going to have my first real southern cooked food (sure stereo typical but the south to me means AMAZING FOOD, warm hospitality and a slowed down pace of living.) I still have not had homemade grits, collard greens with bacon, fried chicken with biscuts and gravy with a side of mac and cheese.

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Besides I thought this was a thread about being a proud southerner… and where and how I am going to have my first real southern cooked food (sure stereo typical but the south to me means AMAZING FOOD, warm hospitality and a slowed down pace of living.) I still have not had homemade grits, collard greens with bacon, fried chicken with biscuts and gravy with a side of mac and cheese.
No need to go all the way to SC to see Paula... stop in VA and you'll have one of Richmond's top three chef's cooking for you... yep, that's my Jess!!

You know our door is always open... you might have to share a bed with the two rotten mini schnauzers or a couple of demon cats, but come the morning, there is NOTHING better than the sausage gravy...
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No need to go all the way to SC to see Paula... stop in VA and you'll have one of Richmond's top three chef's cooking for you... yep, that's my Jess!!

You know our door is always open... you might have to share a bed with the two rotten mini schnauzers or a couple of demon cats, but come the morning, there is NOTHING better than the sausage gravy...

Lord yes, we love some gravy! One day I will convince her to have grits the proper way.. without sugar!!! LOL!

I know, I know.. the only civil(ized) war that goes on around here is Savory grits VS dessert grits. I usually defer to Barney...

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Lord yes, we love some gravy! One day I will convince her to have grits the proper way.. without sugar!!! LOL!

I know, I know.. the only civil(ized) war that goes on around here is Savory grits VS dessert grits. I usually defer to Barney...

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Lord yes, we love some gravy! One day I will convince her to have grits the proper way.. without sugar!!! LOL!

I know, I know.. the only civil(ized) war that goes on around here is Savory grits VS dessert grits. I usually defer to Barney...

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That being said... leave my grits ALONE... grits with butter and sugar are like ice cream to me...

Not that I eat them anymore... but if I do... they will be loaded with all things diabetes and heart disease...
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Huge fan of the grits! My yankee dad ( native new yawker) would poo poo the grit yet he would nosh on scrapple for chris'sake!

I prefer stone ground ( coarse, slow cooking) grits cooked with butter, chicken stock, heavy cream a smidge of roasted garlic and a heaping helping of grated cheese. Serve it up as a side dish for shrimp or a cajun spiced ribeye or for breakfast with grilled andouille and carmelized onions. Leftover grits can be turned into a torte of sorts ( or grit cake) by mixing a custard into it and adding chopped country ham ( or other fav salty meat!) and baking to "set". Great for slicing and grilling or serving as a "bottom" for canapes or makes a great treat with a salad for a lighter lunch.

I can be as passionate about all things southern. The food is just one of the many things that endear me to this part of the country!

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Huge fan of the grits! My yankee dad ( native new yawker) would poo poo the grit yet he would nosh on scrapple for chris'sake!

I prefer stone ground ( coarse, slow cooking) grits cooked with butter, chicken stock, heavy cream a smidge of roasted garlic and a heaping helping of grated cheese. Serve it up as a side dish for shrimp or a cajun spiced ribeye or for breakfast with grilled andouille and carmelized onions. Leftover grits can be turned into a torte of sorts ( or grit cake) by mixing a custard into it and adding chopped country ham ( or other fav salty meat!) and baking to "set". Great for slicing and grilling or serving as a "bottom" for canapes or makes a great treat with a salad for a lighter lunch.

I can be as passionate about all things southern. The food is just one of the many things that endear me to this part of the country!

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OMG I do believe me and Stray need to come over to dinner...then stay till breakfast.
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Y'all come on down... the same two schnauzer or two kitty rule applies though.. ya may get bed buddies
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No need to go all the way to SC to see Paula... stop in VA and you'll have one of Richmond's top three chef's cooking for you... yep, that's my Jess!!

You know our door is always open... you might have to share a bed with the two rotten mini schnauzers or a couple of demon cats, but come the morning, there is NOTHING better than the sausage gravy...
Well, I'm definitely in the bottom three of anywhere's cooking (unless we're talking grilling), but come on down and I'll take you over to momma's. In the South, now that's sacred. *grin*
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what kinds of "weird" southerm foods do you love that might sound weird to someone not from the south...
My family does a lil something called "chocolate and biscuits"--it's just cocoa, tons of sugar, and some yummy biscuits :-) It never ceases to make someone wrinkle their noses.

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come the morning, there is NOTHING better than the sausage gravy...
And, biscuits (my absolute weakness), purdy purdy please?!
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Dad-gum, that looks like fun! I love the dude who hollers: "I think we have [achieved] fire!"



My family does a lil something called "chocolate and biscuits"--it's just cocoa, tons of sugar, and some yummy biscuits :-) It never ceases to make someone wrinkle their noses.



And, biscuits (my absolute weakness), purdy purdy please?!
Well, I make some of the best sausage gravy ya ever put in your mouth. But, my all time favorite, hot bauld (sic) p-nuts from the lil ole man on the side of the road.
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One of my favorite things about the South is music... even in a particular genre, there are many flavors for the ears to taste...

One of my other favorite things is southern women. We rock. Period.

Here's to celebrating all us grownass southern women!

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One of my other favorite things is southern women. We rock. Period.

Here's to celebrating all us grownass southern women!

YouTube- Southern Girl - Amos Lee

Yes indeedy, we love some southern women! We saw this family perform this song last year at the Ryman... Her voice and the acoustics of this wonderful hall of music history brought chills and still do when I hear it! Hope y'all like it!

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That guy lives near you too? *grin*
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That guy lives near you too? *grin*
That guy is everywhere. One of these days, I'm gonna be "that guy". My big want in life is to be the bauld p-nut guy. We all gotta have goals, yanno?
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:55 PM   #19
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Oh, and by the way, here is the CSA website link, just in case anyone THOUGHT this wasn't a racist website, yeah right: http://www.confederatestatesofameric...asterindex.htm

Pretty funny, through out it keeps saying "This is NOT a racist website". Well, gee, if it wasn't why the heck do you keep saying that? Duhhhh.
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Well, I make some of the best sausage gravy ya ever put in your mouth. But, my all time favorite, hot bauld (sic) p-nuts from the lil ole man on the side of the road.
okay I could look it up but I need to know from the sources...

what the heck on earth is hot bauld peanuts.. lol... boiled? peanuts... what does that even taste like? I know what roasted ones are... but this is new to me.. please share

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