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Old 03-17-2011, 06:09 PM   #1
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Wow in third grade!!! I read it as a young adult before I had converted to Judaism. My child is in third grade and I think it is too sophisticated for her. We went to see Rango yesterday and she did not love it. The whole movie was full of references to Clint Eastwood westerns. It went totally over her head. I think Maus would be the same way for her. Although the impact of the cats, mice and pigs is pretty simple. I don't know. I think I'll wait a bit.


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I think Maus is the first book I did a report on in about third grade. I've read and reread it so many times. I found the whole way it was done impressive.

Comic books are the first books that I ever would read. Even with dyslexia I could work out things. Now unless if I'm tired or writing you'd never know.

Do you find simple black, white and grey art more powerful? Or color?

Is it true that the "Golden Age of Comics" is the pinnacle of the genre or truly a bygone age that allowed for further growth?
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Wow in third grade!!! I read it as a young adult before I had converted to Judaism. My child is in third grade and I think it is too sophisticated for her. We went to see Rango yesterday and she did not love it. The whole movie was full of references to Clint Eastwood westerns. It went totally over her head. I think Maus would be the same way for her. Although the impact of the cats, mice and pigs is pretty simple. I don't know. I think I'll wait a bit.
The first time I read it I did not fully comprehend everything. I understood the holocaust happened and was horrible. I understood World War 2 and it's impact but then I was in the heart of reunification period. And my grandfather had told me about concentration camps and liberating the oppressed. By the time I had reread it again in fifth grade I understood more.
But I did have my nieces read it at 4th grade or so. Yes they had questions but I felt they were ready for it.
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Like WBP, I read books when I was a child that most adults wouldnt tackle ( Ann Ryan anyone?) And like him, I grasped some, but not all. I would re-read later and grasp more. Not until an adult would I get it all. But I think those early moments with the book opened consciousnesses that I already had, was born with, and would have laid dormant for years if not forever had I not with childlike innocence, caressed them to open like spring buds. What came later burst forth larger concepts that didnt need to strain.... the light had already been released.....

dont be afraid to expose goodness to children. They will mix it together and artistically make intelligence out of it....
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I have only read one graphic novel...and, I apologize in advance, if this does not fit the discussion (I fear it does not)...still--on the odd chance

it is "Hereville How Mirka Got Her Sword" by Barry Deutsch

I admit to not ever enjoying comics...reading the bubbles while interpreting the drawings is all to much for me, so my reaction to this was the same...made all the more painful (for me) by my massive disappointment with the story itself...one I got because it was touted as a novel about an ortodox girl who wanted to fight trolls...I do know that this thread is for the graphic novel and it's form and not to discuss the content so much of the story...suffices to say that I experienced the graphics to only further upset me as it illustrated the story line...

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I have only read one graphic novel...and, I apologize in advance, if this does not fit the discussion (I fear it does not)...still--on the odd chance

it is "Hereville How Mirka Got Her Sword" by Barry Deutsch

I admit to not ever enjoying comics...reading the bubbles while interpreting the drawings is all to much for me, so my reaction to this was the same...made all the more painful (for me) by my massive disappointment with the story itself...one I got because it was touted as a novel about an ortodox girl who wanted to fight trolls...I do know that this thread is for the graphic novel and it's form and not to discuss the content so much of the story...suffices to say that I experienced the graphics to only further upset me as it illustrated the story line...

(sorry if I was too 'off'--feel free to delete me) Z
Thanks for adding your thoughts to this discussion. I don't think it is too much to discuss the content because it all (pictures, dialogue, and other media) feeds in to reading culture through comics. I know I didn't particularly like comic books when I first started reading them. It could have been the lack of story or how it was drawn. I do think that the storyline is as important as the imagery. Sometimes it takes time to learn how to "read" a comic or graphic novel. Just as it does to learn how to "read" a film. We have to look at all aspects of the work, because we can see how culture bleeds through the artwork and the words chosen. I'd say to give graphic novels another chance. There are so much to choose from.

Here is another question do graphic novels have an age limit to who buys them or reads them? I am 48 and I love them. When I lived in Milwaukee there were comic books stores. Unfortunately there are none where I live now. If you can find a store to take your time and browse in to find a series or titles you like.
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