What's Happening in Austin

[Arwen]

Originally Posted by canmarielan

Well, Saturday night I am going to be Angelique's "ass-istant". She is the one who is chair for the Hot Flash dance at Rusty's.

If you don't know what Hot Flash is..

Our demographic is composed of women approximately 30-55 years old with a solid mix of all races and classes.

Sounds like a ton of fun, but unfortunately D wouldn't be able to go.

[Puplove]

Originally Posted by Arwen

Sounds like a ton of fun, but unfortunately Dwouldn't be able to go.

For real? Is it a "female-identified lesbians only" event?

Exclusion policies push my fairness buttons and stir up hurty feelings from my past, when trying to find my community at the only place I knew of, lesbian bars. Women there would tell me to go back to the straight bars where I belonged. Ouch on the "lesbian-only" judgment swinging around and hurting many.

I don't really think the "safe-from-men space" justification flies at a bar and dance.

Sigh. I hope I'm overstepping and reading too much into it. I hope Arwen's wrong about D not being able to go if he wanted to (then I could finally quit speaking to that hooker).

I hope we (that's the royal "we") are not bringing a new queer social event to Austin that would judge against and exclude half of our community.

[Arwen]

Originally Posted by Puplove

For real? Is it a "female-identified lesbians only" event?

Exclusion policies push my fairness buttons and stir up hurty feelings from my past, when trying to find my community at the only place I knew of, lesbian bars. Women there would tell me to go back to the straight bars where I belonged. Ouch on the "lesbian-only" judgment swinging around and hurting many.

I don't really think the "safe-from-men space" justification flies at a bar and dance.

Sigh. I hope I'm overstepping and reading too much into it. I hope Arwen's wrong about D not being able to go if he wanted to (then I could finally quit speaking to that hooker).

I hope we (that's the royal "we") are not bringing a new queer social event to Austin that would judge against and exclude half of our community.

Well here's their policy:

Trans Policy: F2Ms are welcome at women-only dances as long as they self-identify at the door.

While I understand, that's a bit much for me. It doesn't feel like a good thing.

[little man]

Originally Posted by Arwen

Well here's their policy:

Trans Policy: F2Ms are welcome at women-only dances as long as they self-identify at the door.

While I understand, that's a bit much for me. It doesn't feel like a good thing.

while it's nice to be welcome at a function i don't qualify for, the cover charge seems a bit steep. if it's women-only, then it's women-only, right? which is fine. however, being required to essentially say "i'm not really a guy" is some major suckage.

how about getting about 20 of us guys together to show up, then insist we be patted down at the door?

what is the policy on MtF?

i can see where the sponsoring group is making an effort toward inclusion, toward allowing guys to participate in community functions. but really?

[Arwen]

Originally Posted by little man

while it's nice to be welcome at a function i don't qualify for, the cover charge seems a bit steep. if it's women-only, then it's women-only, right? which is fine. however, being required to essentially say "i'm not really a guy" is some major suckage.

how about getting about 20 of us guys together to show up, then insist we be patted down at the door?

what is the policy on MtF?

i can see where the sponsoring group is making an effort toward inclusion, toward allowing guys to participate in community functions. but really?

I wondered the same thing about the MtF policy. It really does suck to have to self id at the door.

But I really do understand the need for guy-only and gal-only space. I respect that.

I just wouldn't feel comfortable there. No harm. No foul. I hope it's a really successful event!

[little man]

Originally Posted by maryoosa

I'll be in Austin over memorial day weekend---anything fun going on?

always something fun going on here, it seems. keep an eye on this thread would be my advice (that you didn't ask for).

oh, and you had best look me up while you're here. it's been far too long since our paths have crossed.

[canmarielan]

I suppose I didn't think about it either way. Yeah I spoke to the site manager and she said that the person just has to identify themselves as trans at the door. As I am not trans, I didn't know that identifying as trans was a negative thing? Anyway, I understand those of you who don't want to come b/c of that.

Pup...I honestly don't think it's about excluding trans people or being a "female-identified lesbian" ONLY party. It's a party geared toward having women of all ages (though aimed at those above 30), races, classes, sexual orientation come together and have a blast.

Sorry this is causing such a issue, though I don't understand why.