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Old 04-21-2010, 09:38 AM   #1
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How is this different than nationalism, or ethnocentrism? Is it just a term that is to be more precise? A new spin?
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How is this different than nationalism, or ethnocentrism? Is it just a term that is to be more precise? A new spin?
PeralsNLace, Nationalism is when you involve your identity with that of a nation/state, and it emphasizes collective identity.

Ethnocentrism, is the belief that one's ethnic group is centrally important, while at the same time judging other groups.

Exceptionalism, as it relates to this article, is specific to the US, where its citizens believe they occupy a special place in the world. It also refers showing outstanding achievements or displaying superior intelligence, character, strength and extraordinary talent. I see it as a lethal combination of the aforementioned with an added twist.

Perhaps yes, it can be viewed as a new spin. Thanks for adding your comments to the thread.
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PeralsNLace, Nationalism is when you involve your identity with that of a nation/state, and it emphasizes collective identity.

Ethnocentrism, is the belief that one's ethnic group is centrally important, while at the same time judging other groups.

Exceptionalism, as it relates to this article, is specific to the US, where its citizens believe they occupy a special place in the world. It also refers showing outstanding achievements or displaying superior intelligence, character, strength and extraordinary talent. I see it as a lethal combination of the aforementioned with an added twist.

Perhaps yes, it can be viewed as a new spin. Thanks for adding your comments to the thread.

I do think it is important that we remember we are not the only country who pushes for their own exceptionalism though. We are not exceptionally different in preaching being exceptional.....definitely obnoxious though.
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I do think it is important that we remember we are not the only country who pushes for their own exceptionalism though. We are not exceptionally different in preaching being exceptional.....definitely obnoxious though.
I understand, but I would like to know how many countries have it spelled out in their school curriculum. I for one was not taught that for the few years I went to school here. Maybe it is something worth looking into.
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I understand, but I would like to know how many countries have it spelled out in their school curriculum. I for one was not taught that for the few years I went to school here. Maybe it is something worth looking into.

Very interesting. I see now what you are saying. Yes we have a history of Nationalism, but is it taught per se in curriculum?

I know before & during WWII Germany and Japan did and we know how that went. And yes, I think the Soviet Union and China...

I keep wishing the US was more progressive.
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Very interesting. I see now what you are saying. Yes we have a history of Nationalism, but is it taught per se in curriculum?

I know before & during WWII Germany and Japan did and we know how that went. And yes, I think the Soviet Union and China...

I keep wishing the US was more progressive.

Exactly!, and this is the part that strikes a chord with me. And let's not forget Cuba.

So how can we as a nation denounce those countries that are doing what Texas is trying to do? Are Conservatives so blind not to see this?
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Exactly!, and this is the part that strikes a chord with me. And let's not forget Cuba.

So how can we as a nation denounce those countries that are doing what Texas is trying to do? Are Conservatives so blind not to see this?
That is the big question isn't it? What possibly can they be thinking?????

I sincerely have no answer, it makes zero sense to me.
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How is this different than nationalism, or ethnocentrism? Is it just a term that is to be more precise? A new spin?
Great point! I think it has similar results, but in my mind Nationalism would be all US citizens for example pledging allegiance to being exceptional (I find the pledge creepy) rather than an individual Ethnic group feeling superior.

Each is divisive and dangerous in its own way! Agreed!
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