The Bathroom Issue

morningstar55 · 04-28-2016, 06:09 AM

I never knew what a problem bathrooms were for some until I experienced it 12 yrs ago .. with Electrocell.
Now with all this bathroom problems going on ..... I really am concerned for his safety as well as others.
I know he is out on the roads doing his job doing deliveries.
Although Electrocell is not trans , some well I know a lot assume he is.
Stay safe out there to everyone.

Andrea · 04-28-2016, 07:05 AM

Transgender teen fights back after suspension for using 'wrong' bathroom

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/health/sc-transgender-student-bathroom-suspension/

The pep rally was underway as a South Carolina high school student headed to the bathroom. A teacher trailed him. The student is transgender, and she wanted to make sure he used "the right one," he said.

To him, the right one is the boys' bathroom, which he says he has used since seventh grade without incident. Then, in his senior year, school administrators told him he had to use the girls' restroom, he said. They also gave him the option to use the nurse's restroom.

When he exited the bathroom, the teacher did not say anything to him, but he knew from the "exasperated" look on her face that he was in trouble.

The next morning, he was called into the vice principal's office and told he was suspended for one day for using the boys' bathroom.

Andrea: Clink link for rest of article

Andrea · 04-28-2016, 09:51 AM

City: Use bathrooms for biological sex or face jail

http://www.kcra.com/health/city-use-bathrooms-for-biological-sex-or-face-jail/39258464?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm _campaign=kcranews

Transgender people in Oxford, Alabama, could now face six months in jail for using restrooms labeled for the gender with which they identify.

The Oxford City Council passed the ordinance this week after the retail giant Target announced it would allow transgender employees and customers to use the restrooms they feel comfortable with. Target has a store in Oxford.

In the ordinance, the Council says people in public restrooms "do not reasonably expect to be exposed to individuals of the opposite sex while utilizing those facilities."

"The Council further asserts that single sex public facilities are places of increased vulnerability and present the potential for crimes against individuals utilizing those facilities which may include, but not limited to, voyeurism, exhibitionism, molestation and assault and battery," the ordinance states.

The law includes some exceptions, such as for adults accompanying children under age 12.

Those violating the ordinance could face six months in jail or a $500 fine.

Oxford Police Chief Bill Partridge did not return a CNN call for comment. But he told CNN affiliate WBRC the law would be enforced just like any other for a misdemeanor: A person would have to call police to complain, and when police arrive the officer would have to witness the crime.

After that, Partridge said, the person who called in the complaint would have to sign a warrant.

Oxford's new law comes amid a spate of bathroom policies affecting transgender people across the country. But the ordinance does not explicitly mention the term "transgender."

The Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for LGBT rights, lambasted the ordinance.

"This anti-transgender law is unprecedented in its establishment of criminal penalties for violations of the law, and raises a myriad of privacy and legal concerns, including questions about how the law will be enforced," HRC said in a statement.

And the law could affect more people than some realize, HRC Alabama manager Eva Walton Kendrick said.

"Transgender people are our neighbors, our coworkers and our fellow churchgoers," she said, "and every Alabamian has the right to live their lives without fear of discrimination and prejudice."

JDeere · 04-28-2016, 10:26 AM

Ugh so sick of ignorance. People just need to pee. However are they really going to police bathrooms? Make you show id and then drop your pants to inspect? Talk about invasion of privacy.

storyspinner70 · 04-28-2016, 03:54 PM

She is clearly female. But, hey, this isn't about hate. At all. Not even a little bit.

Stone-Butch · 04-28-2016, 04:31 PM

Many places here (On. Canada) have three sets of washrooms. Mens, womens and family so that you can choose to go family (1 person) without worrying if someone is going to say you are a man in a womans washroom and vice versa. I feel comfy knowing they are available.

DapperButch · 04-28-2016, 05:13 PM

The smartest thing for all trans people to do is to get a passport with the correct gender marker. That is federal. It is easy to get changed. All you need is a letter from a medical physician (your HRT physician, for example), that you have been treated for Gender Dysphoria. You don't need to have had any medical surgeries for this. It only needs to say you have been/are being treated for gender dysphoria. Then always carry the passport with you.

https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...on/gender.html

You can also just get a passport card, but it can't be used for international air travel and you can only get into Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and I think the Carribean. But, it fits nice and easy in your wallet.

https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...tion/card.html

Driver license gender marker change depends on the state. In my state it is a simple paper that I can fill out and sign in literally 5 minutes for my clients.

I looked up North Carolina. It looks like you have to have had surgery in order to get you gender marker changed on your license. What they talk about though is what it says on your birth cert. Who carries THAT around? Fortunately, in NC, if you get surgery and get your birth cert changed, the original is sealed, which means your birth name/gender will not be on the document. I looked up Alabama, since that is what this thread is about, and your birth cert will only be amended.

So...in sum, get a passport and carry it with you. It will be good for everything.

04-28-2016, 06:09 AM	#1
morningstar55 Senior Member How Do You Identify?: femme,she Preferred Pronoun?: she,her, Relationship Status: very single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: western NY Posts: 3,809 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,280 Thanked 4,240 Times in 1,845 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	I never knew what a problem bathrooms were for some until I experienced it 12 yrs ago .. with Electrocell. Now with all this bathroom problems going on ..... I really am concerned for his safety as well as others. I know he is out on the roads doing his job doing deliveries. Although Electrocell is not trans , some well I know a lot assume he is. Stay safe out there to everyone. __________________ -------------------------------------------- life is to short to wake up in the morning with regrets so love the people who treat you right, forget about the ones who dont, and believe that everything happens for a reason. If you get a chance take it... if it changes your life let it.

04-28-2016, 07:05 AM	#2
Andrea Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Mature Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Her/She Relationship Status: I heart Rene Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 3,755 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,427 Thanked 14,918 Times in 3,020 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	Transgender teen fights back after suspension for using 'wrong' bathroom http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/health/sc-transgender-student-bathroom-suspension/ The pep rally was underway as a South Carolina high school student headed to the bathroom. A teacher trailed him. The student is transgender, and she wanted to make sure he used "the right one," he said. To him, the right one is the boys' bathroom, which he says he has used since seventh grade without incident. Then, in his senior year, school administrators told him he had to use the girls' restroom, he said. They also gave him the option to use the nurse's restroom. When he exited the bathroom, the teacher did not say anything to him, but he knew from the "exasperated" look on her face that he was in trouble. The next morning, he was called into the vice principal's office and told he was suspended for one day for using the boys' bathroom. Andrea: Clink link for rest of article __________________ I am very spoiled! What we think about and thank about, we bring about! Today I will treat my body with love and respect.

04-28-2016, 09:51 AM	#3
Andrea Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Mature Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Her/She Relationship Status: I heart Rene Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 3,755 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,427 Thanked 14,918 Times in 3,020 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	City: Use bathrooms for biological sex or face jail http://www.kcra.com/health/city-use-bathrooms-for-biological-sex-or-face-jail/39258464?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm _campaign=kcranews Transgender people in Oxford, Alabama, could now face six months in jail for using restrooms labeled for the gender with which they identify. The Oxford City Council passed the ordinance this week after the retail giant Target announced it would allow transgender employees and customers to use the restrooms they feel comfortable with. Target has a store in Oxford. In the ordinance, the Council says people in public restrooms "do not reasonably expect to be exposed to individuals of the opposite sex while utilizing those facilities." "The Council further asserts that single sex public facilities are places of increased vulnerability and present the potential for crimes against individuals utilizing those facilities which may include, but not limited to, voyeurism, exhibitionism, molestation and assault and battery," the ordinance states. The law includes some exceptions, such as for adults accompanying children under age 12. Those violating the ordinance could face six months in jail or a $500 fine. Oxford Police Chief Bill Partridge did not return a CNN call for comment. But he told CNN affiliate WBRC the law would be enforced just like any other for a misdemeanor: A person would have to call police to complain, and when police arrive the officer would have to witness the crime. After that, Partridge said, the person who called in the complaint would have to sign a warrant. Oxford's new law comes amid a spate of bathroom policies affecting transgender people across the country. But the ordinance does not explicitly mention the term "transgender." The Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for LGBT rights, lambasted the ordinance. "This anti-transgender law is unprecedented in its establishment of criminal penalties for violations of the law, and raises a myriad of privacy and legal concerns, including questions about how the law will be enforced," HRC said in a statement. And the law could affect more people than some realize, HRC Alabama manager Eva Walton Kendrick said. "Transgender people are our neighbors, our coworkers and our fellow churchgoers," she said, "and every Alabamian has the right to live their lives without fear of discrimination and prejudice." __________________ I am very spoiled! What we think about and thank about, we bring about! Today I will treat my body with love and respect.

04-28-2016, 03:54 PM	#5
storyspinner70 Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: VA Posts: 355 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 987 Times in 289 Posts Rep Power: 8681947	She is clearly female. But, hey, this isn't about hate. At all. Not even a little bit. __________________ So plant your own gardens and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers. ― Jorge Luis Borges

04-28-2016, 04:31 PM	#6
Stone-Butch Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Stonebutch Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: single Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 3,722 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,347 Thanked 9,411 Times in 3,075 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Bathroom choices Many places here (On. Canada) have three sets of washrooms. Mens, womens and family so that you can choose to go family (1 person) without worrying if someone is going to say you are a man in a womans washroom and vice versa. I feel comfy knowing they are available.

04-28-2016, 10:26 AM	#4
JDeere Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Transgender Preferred Pronoun?: He/him/his Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 17,752 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 31,018 Thanked 28,833 Times in 9,708 Posts Rep Power: 21474865	Ugh so sick of ignorance. People just need to pee. However are they really going to police bathrooms? Make you show id and then drop your pants to inspect? Talk about invasion of privacy.

04-28-2016, 05:13 PM	#7
DapperButch Roadster Guy How Do You Identify?: FTM, Stone Butch Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,745 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 26,545 Thanked 26,809 Times in 5,771 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	The smartest thing for all trans people to do is to get a passport with the correct gender marker. That is federal. It is easy to get changed. All you need is a letter from a medical physician (your HRT physician, for example), that you have been treated for Gender Dysphoria. You don't need to have had any medical surgeries for this. It only needs to say you have been/are being treated for gender dysphoria. Then always carry the passport with you. https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...on/gender.html You can also just get a passport card, but it can't be used for international air travel and you can only get into Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and I think the Carribean. But, it fits nice and easy in your wallet. https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...tion/card.html Driver license gender marker change depends on the state. In my state it is a simple paper that I can fill out and sign in literally 5 minutes for my clients. I looked up North Carolina. It looks like you have to have had surgery in order to get you gender marker changed on your license. What they talk about though is what it says on your birth cert. Who carries THAT around? Fortunately, in NC, if you get surgery and get your birth cert changed, the original is sealed, which means your birth name/gender will not be on the document. I looked up Alabama, since that is what this thread is about, and your birth cert will only be amended. So...in sum, get a passport and carry it with you. It will be good for everything. __________________ -Dapper Are you educated or indoctrinated?